Removal Of Valinor - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

GollumsPrecious · 03-02-2002, 07:33 AM

At the end of the second age as we know Numenor is squished back into the sea, middle earth is reshaped again and the seas are bent...but what exactly is supposed to have happened to Valinor.

All I can find so far is that it was "removed from the circles of Arda". Karyn Wynn Fonstad's excellent book has a picture of Arda at the end of the 3rd age...and Valinor is nowhere to be seen. Are the Valar now back with Iluvatar ? Has Valinor become more of a spiritual thing as supposed to the real life city of Valmar, Alqualonde, Tuna etc.

I thought when it was removed from Arda that it may have moved to one of the outer circles but it seems to have gone altogether. My best guess is that the Valar have reverted to being Ainur and are back with the big man and his elves.

Hmm...

03-02-2002, 07:33 AM	#1
GollumsPrecious Pile O'Bones Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: UK Posts: 21	Removal Of Valinor At the end of the second age as we know Numenor is squished back into the sea, middle earth is reshaped again and the seas are bent...but what exactly is supposed to have happened to Valinor. All I can find so far is that it was "removed from the circles of Arda". Karyn Wynn Fonstad's excellent book has a picture of Arda at the end of the 3rd age...and Valinor is nowhere to be seen. Are the Valar now back with Iluvatar ? Has Valinor become more of a spiritual thing as supposed to the real life city of Valmar, Alqualonde, Tuna etc. I thought when it was removed from Arda that it may have moved to one of the outer circles but it seems to have gone altogether. My best guess is that the Valar have reverted to being Ainur and are back with the big man and his elves. Hmm... __________________ Ugluk u bagronk sha pushdug Saruman-glob bubhosh skai'...