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Old 02-21-2006, 06:15 AM   #32
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I'm pleasantly surprised that random accusations aren't just flying around although they may sometimes prove helpful, too. It's time for a little summary about what has been said toDay:



lmp: Gives a rather glum speech and wants everyone to buy a silver knife. Says the Seers cannot be trusted, but they should remain hidden. However, the Seers should leave subtle clues that help us when they're dead. Disagrees with Glirdan's "lynch the quiet ones" suggestion because we can't know how the wolves will act. Thinks that wolves can usually be spotted based on how they suspect others or make theories how a lycan could act. Thinks Aiwendil's questions make him look innocent. Somewhat agrees with spreading the votes widely, agrees with Sauce on the voting. Also agrees with tar-a's suggestion to act as though we didn't have the Seers, but says that the usual Seer talk may help us to find the wolves.

Anguirel: Talks about bank stuff, thinks Polonius was an idiot. Disagrees with lmp that stating possible wolf strategies is necessarily wolvish. Agrees with tar-a's Seer plan, wants the Seers to talk "with manifold, contorted tongues". Says it's ludicrous to think that the wolves are acting collectively instead of taking different approaches on the situation based on their skills.

Glirdan: Laments for the dead, says we're in a terrible state, but luckily we have the Guardian and the Hunter. Wants to lynch the silent ones. Votes for Gil because of his occupation.

- Well, I assume the vote was due to his occupation because at this point Gil hasn't even spoken yet, although I think he might be trying to get rid of a not so talkative villager because of... hmm, some bad memories. -

Boro: Promises to authorize all lynchings if there's enough proof of wolvery, prefers a noose to lmp's knives. Says that the discussion has been good, but nothing new has been said. Thinks Sauce is innocent and mormegil, Glirdan, lmp and Gil has acted as usual. All in all thinks that everything seems (even a bit too) usual. Says the false Seer can cause a whole lot of confusion, would trust the Seer to authorize the lynching of a wolf, but as long as we don't know who the false Seer is, it's problematic.

tar-a: Says she's safe from the wolves although stresses the word EX-leper. Says fear and money are great motivators although she has just the fear part of the combination. Thinks we should act as though we didn't have the Seers at all. Says the wolves are looking for the Seers, but not too hard because they want to keep us in doubt. Doesn't think tha we should suspect those who disagree with the "we have no Seers" plan or those who seem to be calling out the Seers because it's too easy for the wolves. Doesn't think we can decide what's suspicious and what's not.

Aiwendil: Says random accusations are useless for innocents, wants to have serious discussion, asks questions about good ways to spot a wolf, how the Gifteds should act and how to vote. Wants to spread votes wider than lmp and thinks approx. 5-6 is a good number. Thinks we don't have to worry about the false Seer so much even though they might cause confusion. Says there's no need to stop talking about the Seers although they should remain hidden. Says the Seer is most useful when they're dead and we can be sure of their identity.

- Although lmp and Lhuna seem to think that Aiwendil is innocent because of the questions he asked, I think it would be a good way for wolves to poll people what they think to be suspicious and ask how the Gifteds are probably acting and then adjust their behaviour to look innocent based on the answers.
I agree about the Seer thing, though. We're in a tricky situation. If someone steps forth and says that they're the seer, no one can know if they're telling the truth. -

Sauce: Wants everyone to step forth to talk and vote, wants people to spread their votes and understands Glirdan's suggestion to kill the silent people, but doesn't quite agree. Referring to Aiwendil's questions says that we should focus on everything people say and do and finds the voting record impostant. Trusts the Gifteds' own judgement to decide how to act, thinks everyone should vote in a way that seems best to them.

Kath: Says that it's a bad thing that we have wolves here, but is happy as long as her honey business is safe.

morm: Brags about his soldier skills, says that two of Gil, tar-a, Celuien and Holby are wolves. Says soldiers are better than knights and thinks that Lhuna's proudness may mean that she has pointed ears. Also says that everyone except Gil has answered his accusations as expected,but doesn't reveal his thoughts of them yet.

Farael: Tries to rid us of the wolves with Chemistry, isn't convinced that tar-a's an EX-leper and therefore wants to prepare sulfonamides for her.

Gil: Says that he admires lupines, but doesn't want to be one, warns Glirdan about senseless voting.

Holby: Defends herself against morm's accusations. thinks that it's supicious when people take accusations that are presented jokingly too seriously.

- If you mean that when someone who is being accused as a joke takes it seriously, it's wolvish, then I agree. However, I don't think that other villagers should disregard the accusations that people say against each other even though they seemed like a joke. -

Wants the Gifteds to lay low, but not too much (or Glirdan will want to lynch them). Doesn't want them to be obvious but clear enough although they shouldn't get themselves killed. Says that if the Seers are in danger of getting lynched, they should reveal themselves and provide us a list of their dreams, thinks spreading the votes is good.

Celuien: Laments over the dead, defends herself against morm's accusations, says tar-a and Ang look much more suspicious than her, says the Gifteds should stay hidden.

- Hmm, morm's accusation was a joke (I should think). Why is Celuien trying to shift "suspicion" on tar-a and Ang? -

Lhuna: Claims to be an extraordinary villager and she must not end up dead in any case. Says Glirdan should be lynched for his suggestion and laments the time zones.

- I don't think Glirdan meant you, Lhuna, with lynching the silent ones... right now you've spoken the most. -

Agrees completely with Sauce on focusing on everything although warns about analyzing too much what people say, agrees with tar-a concerning the Seers and with lmp on Aiwendil looking innocents. Threatens people if they should suspect her for voting early. Answers morm's accusations, says that people shouldn't insult Formendacil and wonders how the wolves will react to the village acting like it had no Seers. Says the wolves are hunting for both Seers and probably will go after the quiet ones first. Wonders if we should take a look at those who are calling out the Seers or disagree with tar-a's suggestion. Votes for Glirdan whom she thinks to be most likely innocent. Forbids anyone to suspect her because of her vote.

Nilp: Asks Sauce's opinion of his sign, wants to sing a ballad and votes for Farael as promised.


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I'm a bit surprised that so many people are giving advice for the Gifteds about how to act. I'm sure they can decide themselves what to do better than us who don't actually even know who they are and how they usually act. This is not "hide the Gifteds". We are trying to find the Wolves. I'm sure the Gifteds can manage on their own pretty well, so let's leave them for a while and focus on the possible wolves, shall we?

More thoughts later.

Edit: Sauce and Boro's last posts aren't included in my summary.
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