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the phantom · 10-14-2005, 06:47 PM

Yes, Gothmog, it is tempting to vote Morgoth out, but he is undoubtedly a mover and a shaker. We need those sorts of people.

As far as giving him the boot to save Feanor and the Noldor from his influence, his damage has already been done. He has already sown his seeds of deception. It's too late for that.

What we need to do now is keep the Teleri from resisting the Noldor, since quite obviously the Noldor need to get to Middle Earth to contest the power of Morgoth. Remember, Morgoth is arriving back at his home in Utumno right about now, and he is letting his orcs loose on the Sindarin elves dwelling in Beleriand.

The Noldor are needed there desperately, not only to stop Morgoth, but to help the race of Man rise to its peak.

Voting off Morgoth would not only make for a dull game, but it would also not solve the immediate problem of keeping the elves from killing one another. Either vote out Manwe to keep him from ordering Olwe to withhold his help from Feanor, or vote out Olwe so the Teleri can elect a wiser leader- one who knows it is best to help the friends of the Teleri, and knows to ignore the wishes of Manwe, which inevitably lead to disaster.

10-14-2005, 06:47 PM	#25
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	Yes, Gothmog, it is tempting to vote Morgoth out, but he is undoubtedly a mover and a shaker. We need those sorts of people. As far as giving him the boot to save Feanor and the Noldor from his influence, his damage has already been done. He has already sown his seeds of deception. It's too late for that. What we need to do now is keep the Teleri from resisting the Noldor, since quite obviously the Noldor need to get to Middle Earth to contest the power of Morgoth. Remember, Morgoth is arriving back at his home in Utumno right about now, and he is letting his orcs loose on the Sindarin elves dwelling in Beleriand. The Noldor are needed there desperately, not only to stop Morgoth, but to help the race of Man rise to its peak. Voting off Morgoth would not only make for a dull game, but it would also not solve the immediate problem of keeping the elves from killing one another. Either vote out Manwe to keep him from ordering Olwe to withhold his help from Feanor, or vote out Olwe so the Teleri can elect a wiser leader- one who knows it is best to help the friends of the Teleri, and knows to ignore the wishes of Manwe, which inevitably lead to disaster. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.