Melkor; Evil by Will or Evil by Nature? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Ancalagon'sFire · 05-13-2002, 06:06 PM

The more one delves into this subject matter the more one must question the strange mix of both Monotheism and Polytheism, whereby we have Eru as a single all-powerful entity, yet we also have a layer of Gods represented in the Valar.
This in itself instantly determines that Eru can not be viewed in the same way that a 'christian god' can be viewed. This tends to lean more closely to Norse and Slavic mythological interpretations of devinity.

Yet, it this lies the essence that good and evil co-exist, for both emanate from the original one, Eru. Light and dark are no more than good and evil, for each gives credence to a determined course. We know that;
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each comprehended only that part of the mind of Iluvatar from which he came, and in understanding of their brethern they grew but slowly
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Yet still, even before the music, Melkor had the capacity to hate. What exactly was it that Yvanna knew?

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for Melkor she knew from before the making of the Music and rejected him, and he hated her.
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What had she known about Melkor if not that in his very essence he was evil, not dark.

Manwe knew not evil and could not understand it, therefore he is inherently good, not light. This in turn means he is easily decieved by Melkor. This presents another question as to whether one actually views Manwe as good, because his decisions were not entirely rational and forgiving.

My question now leads me to ask why does evil need to be personified in Melkor, yet good is not so easily personfied, but measured?

05-13-2002, 06:06 PM	#13
Ancalagon'sFire Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 41	The more one delves into this subject matter the more one must question the strange mix of both Monotheism and Polytheism, whereby we have Eru as a single all-powerful entity, yet we also have a layer of Gods represented in the Valar. This in itself instantly determines that Eru can not be viewed in the same way that a 'christian god' can be viewed. This tends to lean more closely to Norse and Slavic mythological interpretations of devinity. Yet, it this lies the essence that good and evil co-exist, for both emanate from the original one, Eru. Light and dark are no more than good and evil, for each gives credence to a determined course. We know that; quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- each comprehended only that part of the mind of Iluvatar from which he came, and in understanding of their brethern they grew but slowly -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yet still, even before the music, Melkor had the capacity to hate. What exactly was it that Yvanna knew? quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- for Melkor she knew from before the making of the Music and rejected him, and he hated her. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What had she known about Melkor if not that in his very essence he was evil, not dark. Manwe knew not evil and could not understand it, therefore he is inherently good, not light. This in turn means he is easily decieved by Melkor. This presents another question as to whether one actually views Manwe as good, because his decisions were not entirely rational and forgiving. My question now leads me to ask why does evil need to be personified in Melkor, yet good is not so easily personfied, but measured? __________________ Threads you should make a point of reading!