Palantiri History Problems - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Telchar · 05-17-2001, 06:46 AM

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You might have discussed some or all these matters elsewhere. If thats the case I appologize, but I haven't been able to find anything here or in the books that explains my questions - but Im sure that some in this forum can give me answers <img src=smile.gif ALT="

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Some statements:
It is stated in UT/SILM/LOTR that the Palantiri was made in Aman by Fëanor.
It is stated in SILM that the Palantiri was a gift from the Eldar to Amandil, Elendils father.
It is stated in SILM that the Palantiri was brought to Middle Earth on Elendils ship.
We know of at least 8 stones (the seven + the master stone in Avalone.) there were very possibly more.

Some Questions:
Were the Palantiri Gifts from the Eldar of Tol Eressa or the Eldar of ME?
I assume the latter, since its Stated in SILM that the Elven ships had ceased to come to Numenor at Amandils time (Aprox. SA 3300).
If we assume that the Palantiri was a gift from Gil-Galad - then how did they come to ME? Did Fëanor bring them? If Feanor brought them how did that master stone end up in Avalone? Were the stones in use in ME during the first and second age?

If we assume that the stones came to Amandil from Tol Eressa - then how did the stones come to Tol Eressa in the first place? Brought back from ME by the Exiled Noldor after the end of the first age? or - from Aman to the Noldor on Tol Eressa in the start of the Second Age?

Can anybody clarify???

Ohh yeah - the really sick question is: Why wasn't the palantiri stolen at the sack of Formenos???

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05-17-2001, 06:46 AM	#1
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	Palantiri History Problems <font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Wight Posts: 211</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> You might have discussed some or all these matters elsewhere. If thats the case I appologize, but I haven't been able to find anything here or in the books that explains my questions - but Im sure that some in this forum can give me answers <img src=smile.gif ALT=""> Some statements: It is stated in UT/SILM/LOTR that the Palantiri was made in Aman by Fëanor. It is stated in SILM that the Palantiri was a gift from the Eldar to Amandil, Elendils father. It is stated in SILM that the Palantiri was brought to Middle Earth on Elendils ship. We know of at least 8 stones (the seven + the master stone in Avalone.) there were very possibly more. Some Questions: Were the Palantiri Gifts from the Eldar of Tol Eressa or the Eldar of ME? I assume the latter, since its Stated in SILM that the Elven ships had ceased to come to Numenor at Amandils time (Aprox. SA 3300). If we assume that the Palantiri was a gift from Gil-Galad - then how did they come to ME? Did Fëanor bring them? If Feanor brought them how did that master stone end up in Avalone? Were the stones in use in ME during the first and second age? If we assume that the stones came to Amandil from Tol Eressa - then how did the stones come to Tol Eressa in the first place? Brought back from ME by the Exiled Noldor after the end of the first age? or - from Aman to the Noldor on Tol Eressa in the start of the Second Age? Can anybody clarify??? Ohh yeah - the really sick question is: Why wasn't the palantiri stolen at the sack of Formenos??? <img src=smokin.gif ALT=":smokin"> Telchar </p> __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.