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Old 03-02-2007, 01:00 AM   #11
Thinlómien
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Hello! I'm here...

...and toDay I will probably unleash the flood-posting Kath has missed so much, since I'm going to spend the week-end in Nogrod's place... So all that prevents me from flood posting should be Nogrod's need to play werewolf too and some minor things (social duties to keep company to my sister, eating, doing maybe some schoolwork...). Anyway, this time, I will be able to hang around 'til the deadline.

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There's one rather bad thing in our situation. We can't conclude anything from the wolf kills. By forcing the seer reveal we have launched a series of events that dictates the wolves their kills. There's nothing you can conclude from killing Rikae. Any wolf would like to get rid of a seer. Likewise, when Nogrod dies, we can't conclude anything from it.

Admittedly we could analyse who of us villagers would, as wolves, attack Rikae though ranger might be protecting her, but I doubt the discussion would be fruitful. (Because we would probably end up in a half the villagers would, half the villagers wouldn't -situation, but our results wouldn't tell us anything, since the wolf kills are decided by three different people, not just one, and we can't know whether one, two or three wolves were for attacking Rikae on Night2... In my opinion we'd just lose time and effort.)

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Originally Posted by Lalaith
I seem to remember another village, plagued by wizards, where there was a suggestion that the known innocent, an ally of the Good Wizard, should chose the lynching candidate. I cannot remember now whether the suggestion was taken up.
But what do you think of this suggestion? Does anyone have any others? Nogrod, what do you think?
I still dislike this kind of suggestions! They smell wolvish "easy solutions". Wouldn't it be very nice for a wolf just to vote someone the known innocent suggests and not to have to make up own theories/suspects?

Doing a lynching candidate list by a known innocent only makes sense when the known innocent knows more than the others. For example, if s/he knows the gifteds' identities s/he can prevent them from getting lynched by making the list and everyone following it. (If I recall correctly, that was the case in Dueling Wizards.) That isn't the case right now.

Nogrod doesn't know anything more than we others do. Thus, I don't think he should make a lynch candidate list. He should, however, give some honest innocent opinions for us to chew. Then we innocents have two (instead of the normal one) 100% surely innocent opinions in our head, his and our own. So, what I actually mean, is that I'm against Nogrod becoming or being made some god who dictates everything, but I'm strongly for him becoming the village official councellor. Everybody should heed his advice, but no innocent has a reason to trust his judgement any more than his/her own (unless s/he believes Nogrod to be more intelligent than him/herself, but that's a whole different matter...).

I'm suspicious of TGWBS and Lalaith because of these suggestions I find unreasonable and harmful to the village. (Though, in TGWBS's defense, I must say he has had these weird tactics suggestions before... )
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