elvish tears - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Imbefana · 02-01-2003, 12:08 PM

Well, I have a question. Do elves cry? I'm writing a fan fic and I would like to know exactly how emotional the fair folk gets. If this had already been talked about I didn't know (on other forums if you bring something up that had previously been mulled over, you were subsequently yelled at for being a newbie, and your questions were not answered.) The reason I ask is I have read a lot of fan fic where they had cried and in others explainind they would if they were able. So is there any evidence in the books as to whether they do or not? Any replies would be great [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] thanx

Inderjit Sanghera · 02-01-2003, 12:14 PM

Yes, I believe that Elves do cry. Quite a bit actually. For example, Miriel saying she 'would weep' but she was too weak. And of course all of those laments and mournings after the fallings of various Elf-kingdoms, people and the two trees.

Yavanna Kementari · 02-01-2003, 12:25 PM

Very good studying Inderjit!
Yes elves do cry. In the Nirnaeth Arnoediad, which means Tears Unnumbered( the 5th battle of the wars of Beleriand), many elves died and wept for their dead. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] I love Elves I hope this helps [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] -(~<~> Yavanna

Imbefana · 02-01-2003, 12:32 PM

Thanks a bunch. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Gorwingel · 02-01-2003, 01:56 PM

Just remember that the Elves experience the deepest sorrow and the greatest joy. That is how I remember something like that. (I may have the wording incorrect, though)

InklingElf · 02-02-2003, 01:42 AM

Well considering the fact that elves experience the deepest sorrow of Middle-Earth, yes they do cry.

If they didn't cry, how would they let all that sadness out of them???

JenFramp · 02-02-2003, 05:42 AM

could you imagine arwen staying immortal and watching Aragorn dieing..without crying? thankfully she doesn't stay immortal

Inderjit Sanghera · 02-02-2003, 12:26 PM

Voronwe also cries when he hears Turgon say that he wouldn't budge from Gondolin.

02-02-2003, 05:56 PM

of course Elves cry. Although i have only read the LotR and the Silmarillion, i can recall several times when it was written "and he/she wept." Crying is part of the definition of sadness

02-01-2003, 12:08 PM	#1
Imbefana Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: idly sitting on a dock in Mithlond Posts: 19	elvish tears Well, I have a question. Do elves cry? I'm writing a fan fic and I would like to know exactly how emotional the fair folk gets. If this had already been talked about I didn't know (on other forums if you bring something up that had previously been mulled over, you were subsequently yelled at for being a newbie, and your questions were not answered.) The reason I ask is I have read a lot of fan fic where they had cried and in others explainind they would if they were able. So is there any evidence in the books as to whether they do or not? Any replies would be great [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] thanx __________________ ~You see things; and you say, 'Why?' But I dream things that never were; and I say, "Why not?" --- George Bernard Shaw~

02-01-2003, 12:14 PM	#2
Inderjit Sanghera Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Wolverhampton, England Posts: 716	Yes, I believe that Elves do cry. Quite a bit actually. For example, Miriel saying she 'would weep' but she was too weak. And of course all of those laments and mournings after the fallings of various Elf-kingdoms, people and the two trees. __________________ “If I’m more of an influence on your son as a rapper then you are as a father then you've got to look at yourself as a parent” ~>Ice Cube. "Life is so beautiful"->Don Vito Corleone

02-01-2003, 12:25 PM	#3
Yavanna Kementari Haunting Spirit Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 97	Very good studying Inderjit! Yes elves do cry. In the Nirnaeth Arnoediad, which means Tears Unnumbered( the 5th battle of the wars of Beleriand), many elves died and wept for their dead. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] I love Elves I hope this helps [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] -(~<~> Yavanna __________________ "Nonetheless they will have need of wood." Aulë speaking to Yavanna of Dwarves :P to you Aulë

02-01-2003, 12:32 PM	#4
Imbefana Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: idly sitting on a dock in Mithlond Posts: 19	Thanks a bunch. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ ~You see things; and you say, 'Why?' But I dream things that never were; and I say, "Why not?" --- George Bernard Shaw~

02-01-2003, 01:56 PM	#5
Gorwingel Beholder of the Mists Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Somewhere in the Northwest... for now Posts: 1,419	Just remember that the Elves experience the deepest sorrow and the greatest joy. That is how I remember something like that. (I may have the wording incorrect, though) __________________ Wanted - Wonderfully witty quote that consists of pure brilliance

02-02-2003, 01:42 AM	#6
InklingElf Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 402	Well considering the fact that elves experience the deepest sorrow of Middle-Earth, yes they do cry. If they didn't cry, how would they let all that sadness out of them???

02-02-2003, 05:42 AM	#7
JenFramp Haunting Spirit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Zionsville Posts: 90	could you imagine arwen staying immortal and watching Aragorn dieing..without crying? thankfully she doesn't stay immortal __________________ And seeing a picture of Jesus he cried out,"Momma, he's got some scars just like me." And he knew it was love, It was one he could understand He was showing his love, And that's how he hurt his hands.

02-02-2003, 12:26 PM	#8
Inderjit Sanghera Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Wolverhampton, England Posts: 716	Voronwe also cries when he hears Turgon say that he wouldn't budge from Gondolin. __________________ “If I’m more of an influence on your son as a rapper then you are as a father then you've got to look at yourself as a parent” ~>Ice Cube. "Life is so beautiful"->Don Vito Corleone

02-02-2003, 05:56 PM	#9
Arpinor Romenel Guest Posts: n/a	of course Elves cry. Although i have only read the LotR and the Silmarillion, i can recall several times when it was written "and he/she wept." Crying is part of the definition of sadness