Werewolf LIII: The Republic

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by A Little Green

Ah, I see it's the famous "no one around" -time of the Day. And this time not even Nerwen to have a chat with.

You speak too soon.

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

You speak too soon.

Ah, Nerwen my love! Nice to see you! I was getting lonely. Do you have any interesting thoughts or something we could talk about?

[Nerwen]

Not really. I had some serious doubts about Sally earlier, what with her push for a triple-lynch... but she didn't try anything when it came to voting.

As for her reasoning on Gil as a possible wolf... yes, it does make sense. However, Lommy mentioned she thought the suggestion first came from Nogwolf. I can't find the post, though.

[A Little Green]

About the Gil-wolf-thing - I don't know but it just seems so improbable to me... I have heard that Gil is the sort of player whose interest in a game depends on his role. Given that I don't think he has a special role. In addition, I don't think he could be that baffled and confused if he were a wolf, unless he was bluffing of course... Yeah, and besides, I would guess his fellows would have urged him to contribute more. (Or at least should have urged..)

Hmm. I don't think we should eliminate the possibility of Gil being a wolf, but at this point I find it very improbable. I wouldn't mind if he got lynched, but I don't think we should waste a lynch on him either.

[Nerwen]

It would explain, though, why he never got eaten or modfired. I'd just like to know whether it was, in fact, Nogrod who came up with the idea, and in what context.

Here's another thing to look at: morm first confessed freely... then he suddenly started on some major I'm-holding-a-thermal-detonator*-type histrionics. I'm going to check the posts and see what people were talking about when that happened... just in case it turns anything up.

Back soon.





*following the semi-theme of this game.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

I miss Bob Ross...

[Kath]

Well, yes Brinn I did disappear. The plan was laid out before me and I did my part of it. I figured if I hung around stuff like what has been happening would happen ... morm confessing and then taking it back, Nog coming up with theory after theory. I tend to read all of it, spend hours arguing with myself, and then going for the original plan anyway. I decided this time I was going to have an easier time of it and just miss out the middle section.

[Nerwen]

You know, if it wasn't for Google I wouldn't have a clue what you Americans were talking about half the time.

Why do you miss Bob Ross, Fea?

EDIT: x'd with Kath.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Why do you miss Bob Ross, Fea?

Because no artist was ever quite so good at comfortably anthropomorphizing trees.

Also, his hair.

[Nerwen]

Well, judging from his picture, he did seem to have quite memorable hair.

[Mithalwen]

I assume that Rikae may also be occupied over the US thanksgiving period so unless you are saved at the eleventh hour you will be at my tender mercies.

Unless you hear otherwise (IE Rikae or a guest mod says she can take over), PLEASE assume that day will end at its proper time and you will have to wait till a more civilised time im my part of the world to get the result. I will try to drag my sorrycarcass to the library when it opens at 9.30 - which will be quite an achievement for me on a Saturday so you won't be kept in suspense to long

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

I'm just gonna go with from here on out, I treat direct references to sports the exact same way I treat direct references to Kant.

My game, my rules. Talk about art or something.

awww
I hate Kant, but he is so much fun refering to. . .

Anyways about art: In the 60's the danish muncipality/town of Holstebro bought a sculpture by Alberto Giacometti for DKK 210.000, but since then some of his other sculptures have been sold for $ 14.000.000 and $ 27.000.000. This means that the sculpture in Holstebro now has a value of DKK 100.000.000 (almost $ 17.000.000). This have resulted in the sculpture being removed from the town square where it was standing as the city-council was a afraid it would get stolen, it is now in the city museum as a temporary solution.

Now the council is trying to figure out how to get the statue back at the square with out risk of vandalism or theft, they do not want to built a montre as it has always been part of the consept that you would be able to touch the sculpture. . . Can you see the dilema?

I think it is nice that they still want it displayed like that even though it has increased in value. . .

[Brinniel]

Hmmm.. seems or doesn't seem?

Doesn't seem. That was a typo...my bad.

And geez people, what's with all the random chatter? Surely there is something more productive we could talk about...

(P.S. Just because I'm posting, don't expect much from me until later. I'm just checking up on the thread before running off to my four hour class.)

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Brinniel

And geez people, what's with all the random chatter? Surely there is something more productive we could talk about...

Totally agreed. And I don't even know what you're talking about.

And tp deserves to be die for his anti-penguin statements. If he's not careful, I will finish him off before the wolf manages to do it...

Nerwen - my bad. I think it was actually tp who talked about Gil, in this post. I just thought it had been Noggie...

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by the phantom

We can rule out option three, as a WereBear is a solitary creature whose own survival is paramount. He wouldn't do something nutty like claiming Seership if that was the case.

Now, son, that happens to be the only way a werebear-type character ever won.

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by Kath

Well, yes Brinn I did disappear. The plan was laid out before me and I did my part of it. I figured if I hung around stuff like what has been happening would happen ... morm confessing and then taking it back, Nog coming up with theory after theory. I tend to read all of it, spend hours arguing with myself, and then going for the original plan anyway. I decided this time I was going to have an easier time of it and just miss out the middle section.

In other words I want to slip under everybody's radar since I'm the last wolf. Keep it up Kath and you'll do just fine. Hasn't anybody wondered why you never suspected me this time around?

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

I miss Bob Ross...

I miss Bob Barker

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

And tp deserves to be die for his anti-penguin statements. If he's not careful, I will finish him off before the wolf manages to do it...

Penguins suck! And why don't you kill tummy at the same time the wolves do? You know you can, if you catch my drift . In fact, I wonder if you should kill Tummy tonight just to cause confusion amongst the ranks.

[mormegil]

Rikae, I would also like to state that the voting polls don't really open for another 10 hours so any vote received before that is null and void.

[Thinlómien]

Looks like having three wolves bagged makes others than just me incredibly lazy... I will start going through the wolves' posts. I'll start with... THE Ka.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by mormegil

I miss Bob Barker

Come on down... and join the club.

[Thinlómien]

Ka's opinions on other people:

Day1
#66 calls McC modest, jokes with tp, calls Ilya's point about votes good, banters with Shasta&Agan
#104 agrees with Boro about history being a bad excuse, agrees with tp that reps should be independent.
#138 disagress with me by saying she will vote someone non-quiet and non-veteran as her rep
#170 corrects Nogrod about the number of her posts, says she's tempted to vote Ilya for rep, votes Boro for rep.
#342 agrees with Gwath about casinos, some stuff about Nogrod (it hardly matters what she said and her sentence didn't make much sense to me...), says she will keep an eye on Legate, wonders about Kath but says she feels rather innocent that far, doesn't suspect Agan, says Shasta seems interesting and agrees with him.

Day2
#561 says McCaber was a safe kill, agrees with me about everybody thinking sally innocent being weird but has no distinctive opinion on her, also agrees with me that Nerwen seems innocentish, jokes about tp, votes me as a rep because I'm interested and able, also considers voting Nerwen

Day3
#972 agrees with Rune about Nog being odd, agrees with tp about being nice
#978 votes Greenie for rep because "she’ll poke better than the Spanish inquisition", agrees with tp&Boro that wolves are enjoying the current situation, says that it's convenient for the wolves that we only talk about Boro&tp
#1073 speculates with Rune about why an innocent would lay traps (suggests impersonating hunter)

That's all of it. Not much...
I don't think this points at anything at all. I think no conclusions can be drawn from Ka's attitude to people before Nog and morm's posts are analysed, if even then..

[mormegil]

Lommy I can save you the time and effort of looking, if you just ask nicely I'll tell you who the wolves are.

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by mormegil

Rikae, I would also like to state that the voting polls don't really open for another 10 hours so any vote received before that is null and void.

I don't think so sweetie, besides there has been a temporary change of jurisdiction and I plan on being quite Denning-like in my judgements. Mwahahahaha

[Mithalwen]

And so if you must talk about sport it should be proper games like Rugby and Cricket that are worthy of a Moddesses attention not those silly forms of football and glorified rounders NB Aussie Rules is quite acceptable. Up the Blues.

[Boromir88]

You know you love football, Mith, you can't deny it.

Gah. No, I will not be lulled in by yet another siren, there's work to be done.

I will give some final thoughts and considerations before the deadline, but right now I'm going to do a couple other things and then observe a bit here.

[Mithalwen]

Indeed I do not deny that I love Rugby Football and Australian Rules Football as played by real men (and real women ) the other sorts are not worthy of my attention...

be lulled for another ten minutes then I will be away.

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Exactly.
(pssp: tp, I figured we'd give a nice slice to Fea so she can take a dream trip up to Antartica, to Mith to have the honour of visiting us in the States, and we'd split the rest of it 50/50)

I have been through both your home towns back in the day. Are you guys going to show up this time?

[Nogrod]

Okay. Let's look at this thing with Gil once more.

After all those patronizing remarks on his posting there followed this kind of interchanges. Just think of it yourselves how would you have felt getting all this because you had missed the voting-time?

Originally Posted by Shasta

Do I need to point out the contradiction here, or can you find it yourself?

Originally Posted by Greenie

he seems quite a bit confused and self-contradicting.

Originally Posted by Sally

I just read the rest of Gil's post(s). Is it just me or does he make even less sense than Phantom?

Originally Posted by Gil

i was just defending myself from being called a further idiot...

and yes i admit i messed up with the voting, my bad.

i had a feeling this was going to be a bad idea... maybe i should just step out of the game now before it becomes too late.

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Shasta and Gil, you're amusing me an awful lot.

Originally Posted by Gil

the last thing i want is to insult people, and if i am inadvertently doing that and i don't realize it, then i must excuse myself from the rest of the game.

EDIT: the whole "its underlined" part makes me feel like you are calling me an idiot and thats what made me go more defensive, so to say.

Originally Posted by Shasta

I apologize if I made it seem like I was insulting your intelligence.

Originally Posted by Gil

more of a slap in the face then anything.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

I'm thoroughly enjoying the Gil-Shasta double-act. Pure comedy gold.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Can we assume that Gil's out?

Originally Posted by Gil

never assume anything from me

And then he was gone and whasn't been heard of no more.

So what say you? I think you just misbehaved. But if he is the seer how much do you think he would like to help you guys after that?



Now Boro as a wolf surely noticed that there had been no seer revelations coming forwards even if the Days passed and he started to gather his thoughts finding his "alive status" Day after Day a pressing matter to him (that's probably one of the reasons he was so nice to tp - and after that short row with me he started to "like to see me around" as well. He needed us to stay alive beside him. And then he came to this exact same conclusion I did yesterDay (well as a wolf I tend to think like he does as a wolf as we have the same problems more or less): Gil is the seer. And he saw his moment there.

And like he said, he's the worst back-stabber there is and thus he decided to buy some further credibility with trying to lynch The Ka, his packmate. Remember, he never said he had "dreamt" of her. So how did he manage to hit her so accurately? Also remember: he voted first, Shasta was cross-posting him...

And what a surprise we find Shasta dead the next Day. Indeed a perfect pick from his point of view. How did it go that smoothly while we were denied to kill Boro that very same Night?

Like we were denied to kill him the Night before, the Night when when Agan died - and how it just fit in so well with the things Boro was trying to meddle our heads with?

Okay, we have blood in our hands as well. We killed McCaber - and some of you quessed it right: I persuaded morm to it - and I had to use all my arguments for it. And we deserve to die for it.

I think there is something like rolling of the dices for which team gets the kill each Night - or who knows, maybe Fea just chooses what she likes to choose?

One more thing to point out to all you unbelievers out there. Fea never said the four wolves would be on the same side. She only said there will be four wolves.

Now some of you may wonder why am I trying to be helpful seeing that me and morm are dead meat already? Well, letting a rival team win is worse than seeing the village win.


Anyway. You will see Boro will keep going alive and well, giving you a name of one innocent every Day while you lynch one of those yet unknown (and for some miraculous reason the one nominated as innocent dies the next Night and Boro stays).

So you need to use your little grey cells...

[satansaloser2005]

Oi, Nog. Shut up.




Hehe. Alternatively, we're not going to listen to you anyway, so feel free to spam, erm, post to your heart's content, my little friend.


Blast. I have to run to class. And this non-WW related discussion was getting so interesting.

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Oi, Nog. Shut up.




Hehe. Alternatively, we're not going to listen to you anyway, so feel free to spam, erm, post to your heart's content, my little friend.


Blast. I have to run to class. And this non-WW related discussion was getting so interesting.

Sally you weren't so full of hate during the night periods, in fact you were quite pleasant...why the change?

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by mormegil

Sally you weren't so full of hate during the night periods, in fact you were quite pleasant...why the change?

Girl's gotta do what a girl's gotta do, fellas. Sorry.


*scurries off to class*

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Oi, Nog. Shut up.

Hehe. Alternatively, we're not going to listen to you anyway

Well that's your choice. You are the ones to suffer the consequences of that decision.

[the phantom]

You're right, Nog, that there are two teams of Wolves.

But Boro isn't the last WW. He's a Cobbler-Seer, who was assigned to help a specific team. Ask me how I know.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by the phantom

You're right, Nog, that there are two teams of Wolves.
But Boro isn't the last WW. He's a Cobbler-Seer, who was assigned to help a specific team. Ask me how I know.

Fair enough, although funny you should know it?

But nice that you brought that up anyway. That's just another version of the false-seer thing I suspected myself - but both explain the things as well.

All added spice to the mix make the food more interesting. Somehow I'm beginning to hope I was not dead toDay afterall (I had kind of gotten used to the idea and even felty a bit relaxed as I'd now have time for other things) as this is really looking like it's becoming very interesting indeed.

Couldn't one of you just cancel your vote on me - Mith allowing - I would promise not to kill anyone...

[Boromir88]

If your last buddy really is preparing to keep me alive just to argue your ridiculous theory as to why I still am not dead after this, than that would be the biggest mistake in WW history. You already made a mistake by keeping me alive this long, take a lesson from morm, and die with whatever dignity you have left.

Admit you were dooped and scrum up whatever chance of victory you have left for your last wolf.

[Nogrod]

Are you getting irritated because your plan is not working after all so smoothly as you thought Boro?

So you counted on the fact that I would play it your way in the end?

[Boromir88]

Nope, my plans actually worked quite perfectly. You will be lynched with your packmate morm. I can't ask for a better early christmas present.

[Ilya]

I have internets again! Will reread what's gone on all day/if y'all have voted already.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

scrum up whatever chance of victory you have left for your last wolf.

Let's take it for the argument's sake that there were four wolves playing together and of which one will be left and you're the seer. That's your cover-story, right?

Okay, granted that, what happens? You get killed and the village is on it's own. The odds would be reasonable for the village, I admit. But to say there are no chances for victory for a lonely wolf there is misrepresenting the situation. So why would you say something like that? Like you had to impress someone, like you had to make people feel comfortable with their situation?

Like you were a little boy surrounded by hounds and you tried to pull a brave face knowing that as long as you looked confident the dogs wouldn't bite, but still you couldn't be sure...

Originally Posted by Boro

You already made a mistake by keeping me alive this long, take a lesson from morm

I admit I should have followed morm's advice on Night1. But on Night2 and 3 I did follow his advice. Fea either likes you too much or then it was that you and The Ka were given the right to call the shots the two Nights after that. By what logic, I don't know. Dices?

Originally Posted by Boro

Nope, my plans actually worked quite perfectly. You will be lynched with your packmate morm. I can't ask for a better early christmas present.

I'll grant you that. You got rid of your rivals even if it meant you had to stab your mate in the back, and you didn't like the fact that you might have made it without the sacrifice as Shasta would have performed the thing for you (maybe that frustration led to Shasta's demise?) - and The Ka would have been the perfect submarine pair to you indeed. Well, these things happen...

So looking at your latest posts I sense a kind of tension there... Now you have to make it alone. Let's see how long you can make your final stand?

All the best for your trials and tribulations Boro! The village will win though... and I'll be silently contented because of the fact that the rival Wolfgang didn't win if we had to lose.

Originally Posted by Boro

die with whatever dignity you have left.

That depends on the definiton of dignity you use. I would call it undignified if I had some chances to continue living in the face of immediate death and tried to weep myself out of the trouble appealing to you pity or my hurt feelings or something like that.

But I'm dead now. Right? You have already all voted, eh?

What should I do, discuss football? Let your foul schemes work out the way you wish? I call it dignity to stand up and play even in the darkest hour, trying to find out your evil ways Boro. You don't like it? Fine. I see why you don't. What you do not need are seeds of indecision and doubt because your plan either stands or falls with trust on your status in the village.

But don't say I'm dying in shame if I dare to play to the end while you'd like to distract everyone with a host of small talk - which only serves your interests my friend. And the village should see that your interest are not the same as theirs.

Yours truly,

Wolfgrod