Scarburg Meadhall Discussion Thread

[Folwren]

I got that post up sooner than I expected...

Elempi, I thought that if you were willing, we should write a PM built post about the conversation/confrontation between Saeryn and Rowenna. That is, if Eodwine lets her go...

[Groin Redbeard]

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

"" is right, Firefoot. Wow.

I couldn't have said it better, Gwathagor! I never saw that one coming. Nice job with your post Elempi, Folwren, and Firefoot, you're all handling this brilliantly.

[Groin Redbeard]

Question: is Rowenna really leaving, or is Saeryn going to stop her?

[littlemanpoet]

Originally Posted by Groin Redbeard

Question: is Rowenna really leaving, or is Saeryn going to stop her?

We shall have to see. One thing does seem evident to me: Saeryn will have a choice to make, whether to keep talking with Rowenna in hopes of persuading her to return, or be in the horse race - but not both. It's up to Foley (based on a PM post a-building) which way that will go.

[Folwren]

Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

We shall have to see. One thing does seem evident to me: Saeryn will have a choice to make, whether to keep talking with Rowenna in hopes of persuading her to return, or be in the horse race - but not both. It's up to Foley (based on a PM post a-building) which way that will go.

Huh. I hadn't thought about that. Well, now that Rowenna's NOT in the race, all the reasons Saeryn had to be in it seem gone. Still, it'd be fun. Oh well.

Yeah, we're writing a post, and although Elempi may know what Rowenna ends up deciding upon, I do not.

-- Foley

[littlemanpoet]

Originally Posted by Folwren

Huh. I hadn't thought about that. Well, now that Rowenna's NOT in the race, all the reasons Saeryn had to be in it seem gone. Still, it'd be fun. Oh well.

Yeah, we're writing a post, and although Elempi may know what Rowenna ends up deciding upon, I do not.

-- Foley

If you're willing to follow an idea I have, which has 3 parts:

1) Rowenna comes from the Folde; her father's farm was close to the White Mountains, and very prosperous, but an easy target for brigands. Should the land of her growing up years come up in S & R's talk, Saeryn could make the connection that they both come from the same place.

2) A 50 mile journey by foot, without food or drink is extremely dangerous for a woman alone, even Rowenna. Saeryn could realize that there is not convincing Rowenna to return to Scarburg permanently, but wait until others travel to Edoras.

3) Eodwine and Degas are going to Edoras on the morrow, and thence Degas on to the Folde. Rowenna could be escorted there by Degas, and perhaps some arrangements be made for her to be given back the lands of her father.

Yes, this means that Rowenna would fall out of the Scarburg tale. However, that actually makes sense, though I never planned on it (it just seems to have worked out from the story itself), since I am eventually going to leave this forum for good. There are now only 2 other rpgs that hold me here, both of which are winding down at extremely slow paces, but are winding down nonetheless. So Rowenna can go, and thereafter, Eodwine and Harreld are the only characters of mine that need to be written by those of you who remain.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

3) Eodwine and Degas are going to Edoras on the morrow, and thence Degas on to the Folde. Rowenna could be escorted there by Degas, and perhaps some arrangements be made for her to be given back the lands of her father.

I could do that.

[Folwren]

Okay. Thanks for sharing your ideas. I really wasn't sure where this post was going, as it became more and more clear that you weren't intending on having Rowenna change her mind.

[littlemanpoet]

Please don't wait for Foley's and my pm post. Let's carry on with the horse race and any other posts anybody wants to write. Saeryn and Rowenna are out of the horse race.

[Groin Redbeard]

Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

Please don't wait for Foley's and my pm post. Let's carry on with the horse race and any other posts anybody wants to write. Saeryn and Rowenna are out of the horse race.

That leaves Erbrand, Eodwine, Javan, Léof, Crabannan, Degas, Aethelstan, and Matrim for the race. I'll get a post up for Lithor getting things ready.

[Folwren]

Yes. As soon as everyone says everyone is ready for the horse race and at the site of the race, I'll go ahead and write the race. ...That is what the caretakers are to do - write the actual event in one post?

[littlemanpoet]

Originally Posted by Folwren

Yes. As soon as everyone says everyone is ready for the horse race and at the site of the race, I'll go ahead and write the race. ...That is what the caretakers are to do - write the actual event in one post?

Correct.

I've updated the list and listed them in order of when they will occur. The races first, as Lithor has said; after that, the "throwing" games, and then the "weapons" games

I've also claimed care taking of the three-legged race. Anybody else who wants to claim another game, please do so.

NEWLY UPDATED LIST:

1. Horse Race Erbrand, Eodwine, Javan, Léof, Crabannan, Degas, Aethelstan, Matrim--> FOLWREN

2. Foot Race Erbrand, Garmund, Cnebba, Eodwine, Osmund, Degas, Matrim--> ___________

3. Three Legged Race Eodwine, Rowenna, Erbrand, Stigend, Garstan, Cnebba, Garmund, Javan, Saeryn, Kara, Ginna, Léoðern, Degas, Wilcred --> ELEMPI

4. Task-path Rowenna, Eodwine, Harreld, Dan, Javan, Saeryn, Erbrand --> GRÓIN

5. Stone Throwing Garmund, Cnebba, Harreld, Erbrand, Wilcred, Balvir, Matrim --> LOMMY

6. Spear Throwing Erbrand, Crabannan, Stigend, Dan, Harreld, Thornden, Osmund, Aethelstan, Balvir--> _________

7. Dagger-throwing Rowenna, Eodwine, Harreld, Saeryn, Scyld, Wilcred, Matrim--> FIREFOOT

8. Wrestling Crabannan, Dan, Harreld, Garstan, Stigend, Aethelstan, Osmund--> ELEMPI

9. Sack-fight Harreld, Erbrand, Dan, Javan, Cnebba, Garmund, Stigend, Kara--> NOGROD

10. Archery Erbrand, Crabannan, Garmund, Cnebba, Dan, Eodwine,Javan, Thornden, Wilcred, Balvir, Matrim --> GRÓIN

11. Quarterstaff-fight Erbrand, Crabannan, Stigend, Dan, Eodwine, Harreld, Thornden, Garstan, Osmund, Aethelstan, Balvir--> __________

12. Sword fight Crabannan, Dan, Eodwine, Degas, Garstan, Stigend, Aethelstan, Erbrand, Balvir, Matrim--> GWATHAGOR

13. Dancing

14. Riddles Dan, Eodwine, Javan, Degas, Wilcred

[Thinlómien]

Any preferences on how good Harreld, Erbrand, Wilcred, Balvir and Matrim should be at stone throwing?

[Gwathagor]

Harreld is probably the strongest of the group, but I don't know whether he'd be the most accurate.

[littlemanpoet]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Any preferences on how good Harreld, Erbrand, Wilcred, Balvir and Matrim should be at stone throwing?

Please describe the nature of the contest you have in mind, Lommy - that way we will be able to tell you our characters are likely to fair.

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

Please describe the nature of the contest you have in mind, Lommy - that way we will be able to tell you our characters are likely to fair.

I'm not sure yet... Anyway, it's going to be mostly about accuracy and less with distance and the least with strength, this way it makes sense that the little boys can take part and besides strength is measured well enough in other games. So basically, they try to hit something that is rather far away with their stones.

[Groin Redbeard]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

I'm not sure yet... Anyway, it's going to be mostly about accuracy and less with distance and the least with strength, this way it makes sense that the little boys can take part and besides strength is measured well enough in other games. So basically, they try to hit something that is rather far away with their stones.

It looks like Erbrand has a fighting chance after all! Balvir, Matrim, and Erbrand are all archers so if this is going to be a game of accuracy I'd imagine that they stand a pretty good chance, but I just can't see any of them outdoing Harreld.

[Folwren]

The last post I posted up was a joint post of both Elempi's and my making. It is very, very long... And it ended up turning out in a way I don't believe either he or I quite expected.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Fantastic post! That was wonderful to read.

[littlemanpoet]

Originally Posted by Groin Redbeard

It looks like Erbrand has a fighting chance after all! Balvir, Matrim, and Erbrand are all archers so if this is going to be a game of accuracy I'd imagine that they stand a pretty good chance, but I just can't see any of them outdoing Harreld.

Harreld is serviceable in his aiming ability, but he is a smith, not an archer; I expect that he will have a slight disadvantage since his arms are honed to wielding heavy hammers and such rather than the accuracy required for targets. If it were a matter of speed with which a projectile might be thrown, he would probably win.

Originally Posted by Fea

Fantastic post! That was wonderful to read.

Thanks, Fea. It was wonderful to write, truth be told. I've always been sympathetic toward Rowenna, even when she was her most awful - because I knew what was behind it. I found it amusing when there were comments about hating her. Amusing and understandable, but I didn't share them.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

I found it amusing when there were comments about hating her. Amusing and understandable, but I didn't share them.

Not legitimate hatred, just sporting jealousy based on favoritism. I like the character a lot.

[Folwren]

Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

Not legitimate hatred, just sporting jealousy based on favoritism. I like the character a lot.

Yeah...I think that's the same here. I believe I would not have reacted quite so negatively had it been Saeryn who'd kissed him.

[littlemanpoet]

I'm caretake this one since it hasn't been claimed.

Foot Race Erbrand, Garmund, Cnebba, Eodwine, Osmund, Degas, Matrim--> ELEMPI

This is going to be broken down between men and boys, or else if others think it advisable, to give the boys a head start. I'm torn, with only two boys. Would Javan be willing to join?

I'm going to break this up into a couple of different distance races: (1) a short sprint, and one furlong (1/8 of a mile, not exactly a sprint, and not exactly long distance; it's sort of in between like the Olympic 800 meter race).

The short one will be first.

I'll roll up this race in 50 foot segments and give various runners plusses and minuses based on your descriptions of your characters.

Here's an example:

Eodwine is average height by Eorling standards: 6' 2" or so. His legs aren't long or short and he's fit for his age. His legs are, however, naturally muscular and he can put on a burst of speed - he's a better sprinter than long distance runner. So for the short race I would put him at +5, and for the furlong race I would put him at -5.

Pleaes quote this post and add your character's foot racing description.

[Groin Redbeard]

Nice post Elempi and Folwren! I'm glad that Rowenna was convinced to stay, you two have really don a brilliant job with the whole situation.

My post is up for Lithor, so the horse race can begin whenever we feel like it.

Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

Eodwine is average height by Eorling standards: 6' 2" or so. His legs aren't long or short and he's fit for his age. His legs are, however, naturally muscular and he can put on a burst of speed - he's a better sprinter than long distance runner. So for the short race I would put him at +5, and for the furlong race I would put him at -5.

Erbrand stands at 6'3". His legs are muscular, much more so than his arms, and can move fast, although his endurance is his strong point. His long legs hinder him from doing well in a sprinting match, but drive on in a steady fury in a distance race. For the short race I'd give him +2, and for the furlong race I'd give him +5.

[Nogrod]

I can take any game that seems to be the first without a writer if there is a dire need. At the moment it looks like being the spear throwing but if someone wishes to take that I'd be even more happy with the quarterstaff-fight as I have some experience of that sport in RL and it would be nice to write.


About the kids in the foot-race then.

First of all: Javan should absolutely take part in it.

Secondly: As Garmund is Celuien's characher in an indefinite "loan" I think we might share our ideas. Also, Cnebba is a shared character of Lommy and myself so Lommy should also have a word in this - at least if she has different ideas (we've talked about Cnebba a few times and I think we share the most ideas).

So.

Garmund is a year older, 9 years, and clearly taller ("tall for his age at 5 feet even" - as Celuien described him in the bio) comparing to Cnebba, 8, ("small and nimble" - as Lommy described him in the bio).

They are both a bit skinny but as Lommy said, Cnebba's nimble and I've always thought of Cnebba as a kind of a "bouncy" guy, like one who is - and just looking from the dictionary now - springy or elastic (you should see my sister's daughter to get what I mean ). So I'd say that Cnebba would be a favourite of the two in a shorter distance but Garmund on the longer one.

To make the point from a different perspective: If they had a tree-climbing contest Cnebba would be a clear favourite but if they would run really a long distance Garmund would win easily / if they had a competition of which one arises up from the ground the fastest after falling down Cnebba would be the winner but if they had to just hold a heavy object up Garmund would win.

Oh, such a clear information for you lmp...

[Folwren]

Sure, Javan can participate in the foot racing.

I'm not sure exactly what you were wanting when you asked us to quote your post and then add our character's description, but below I have all the current descriptions and mine following.

Originally Posted by Elempi

Eodwine is average height by Eorling standards: 6' 2" or so. His legs aren't long or short and he's fit for his age. His legs are, however, naturally muscular and he can put on a burst of speed - he's a better sprinter than long distance runner. So for the short race I would put him at +5, and for the furlong race I would put him at -5.

Originally Posted by Groin Redbeard

Erbrand stands at 6'3". His legs are muscular, much more so than his arms, and can move fast, although his endurance is his strong point. His long legs hinder him from doing well in a sprinting match, but drive on in a steady fury in a distance race. For the short race I'd give him +2, and for the furlong race I'd give him +5.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Garmund is a year older, 9 years, and clearly taller ("tall for his age at 5 feet even" - as Celuien described him in the bio) comparing to Cnebba, 8, ("small and nimble" - as Lommy described him in the bio).

They are both a bit skinny but as Lommy said, Cnebba's nimble and I've always thought of Cnebba as a kind of a "bouncy" guy, like one who is - and just looking from the dictionary now - springy or elastic (you should see my sister's daughter to get what I mean ). So I'd say that Cnebba would be a favourite of the two in a shorter distance but Garmund on the longer one.

Javan is 12 and short, I think he's somewhere between 4'9" or 4'11", but my mouse is working SO badly on this computer I am not going to go find my actual bio post to find out exactly what. He's compactly built and I don't know if that will aid in running or detract from it. I've never considered how athletic my characters were - outside of horse riding - because I don't know anything about athletics. I'd say he's an average runner, not slow, but not particularly fast. And I'll go ahead and say he has endurance, so could keep a fairly steady pace for a long time. So, perhaps he'll have a better chance at a long run.

Elempi, you're doing the rating, not me, right?

Does that work? Sorry for the confusion.

[Folwren]

Well...there is my best shot. I hope it suffices. *fleeting smile* I knew it needed to be gotten up as soon as possible, so I did it tonight. If, sometime later, I think I could redo it better, I will.

Edit: Erbrand was in the race, right?

-- Foley

[Groin Redbeard]

Originally Posted by Folwren

Edit: Erbrand was in the race, right?

Yep, great job Folwren. I enjoyed the post almost as much as a real horse race.

The foot race is next then, right?

[littlemanpoet]

Originally Posted by Groin Redbeard

Yep, great job Folwren. I enjoyed the post almost as much as a real horse race.

Agreed. Don't change a thing, Foley.

Originally Posted by Groin

The foot race is next then, right?

Yep. I'll work it up tonight. Might have it posted tonight, too.

[Folwren]

The foot race could conceivably take place right there where the horse race just happened.

[Groin Redbeard]

Originally Posted by Folwren

The foot race could conceivably take place right there where the horse race just happened.

Yes, the same with the Three- legged race.

Nogrod, I'd be happy to take charge of the Javelin throwing if you want to take the Staff fight. I don't have any experience in either, so it would be nice if we had someone who did.

I won't be able to get a post up for Erbrand tomorrow, but I'll do it as soon as I can, with his post race thoughts. Gwathagor, I'd very much like to here your characters view on the race, since there was so much focus on you Crabanna, or rather your horse: Horse!

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Groin Redbeard

I won't be able to get a post up for Erbrand tomorrow, but I'll do it as soon as I can, with his post race thoughts. Gwathagor, I'd very much like to here your characters view on the race, since there was so much focus on you Crabanna, or rather your horse: Horse!

I think it would be nice to give people some breathing space between the games - a day or two (RL) to make exactly these "post-race" comments if they wish. They will build the characters for the writer as well as to us others.

Nogrod, I'd be happy to take charge of the Javelin throwing if you want to take the Staff fight. I don't have any experience in either, so it would be nice if we had someone who did.

Go on Groin if no one else claims it. I'd be happy to have the staff-fight.

[littlemanpoet]

I probably won't have the foot race post ready tonight after all. So I'll wait, as has been suggested, so people can write character posts in between this and the next game.

NEWLY UPDATED LIST:

1. Horse Race Erbrand, Eodwine, Javan, Léof, Crabannan, Degas, Aethelstan, Matrim--> FOLWREN

2. Foot Race Erbrand, Garmund, Cnebba, Eodwine, Osmund, Degas, Matrim--> ELEMPI

3. Three Legged Race Eodwine, Rowenna, Erbrand, Stigend, Garstan, Cnebba, Garmund, Javan, Saeryn, Kara, Ginna, Léoðern, Degas, Wilcred --> ELEMPI

4. Task-path Rowenna, Eodwine, Harreld, Dan, Javan, Saeryn, Erbrand --> GRÓIN

5. Stone Throwing Garmund, Cnebba, Harreld, Erbrand, Wilcred, Balvir, Matrim --> LOMMY

6. Spear Throwing Erbrand, Crabannan, Stigend, Dan, Harreld, Thornden, Osmund, Aethelstan, Balvir--> GROIN

7. Dagger-throwing Rowenna, Eodwine, Harreld, Saeryn, Scyld, Wilcred, Matrim--> FIREFOOT

8. Wrestling Crabannan, Dan, Harreld, Garstan, Stigend, Aethelstan, Osmund--> ELEMPI

9. Sack-fight Harreld, Erbrand, Dan, Javan, Cnebba, Garmund, Stigend, Kara--> NOGROD

10. Archery Erbrand, Crabannan, Garmund, Cnebba, Dan, Eodwine,Javan, Thornden, Wilcred, Balvir, Matrim --> GRÓIN

11. Quarterstaff-fight Erbrand, Crabannan, Stigend, Dan, Eodwine, Harreld, Thornden, Garstan, Osmund, Aethelstan, Balvir--> NOGROD

12. Sword fight Crabannan, Dan, Eodwine, Degas, Garstan, Stigend, Aethelstan, Erbrand, Balvir, Matrim--> GWATHAGOR

13. Dancing

14. Riddles Dan, Eodwine, Javan, Degas, Wilcred

[Nogrod]

Should we add Garstan to the knife-throwing? It reads in his bio by Celuien: "handy with a knife"

In anticipation of the three-legged race...

Stigend and Garstan could be quite a fine pair as they are close friends and are used to work together. On the downside G is 35 and S is 30 so they are not so agile in an unfamiliar situation as some younger ones might be - even if they'd realise how to do it mentally.

Cnebba and Garmund will be an interesting pair. They are agile and if they get it right they might be the ones to beat! But there should be something like a roll for their succeeding to co-operate. I'm not talking so much a mental thing as that I think they could do at the moment of competition but a physical one - like if they get the rhythm and understand it, that they are able to pull it off together.

Also the fact of fathers running against their sons might open nice possibilities: like daddies letting the kids win them at the last meters if there was such a situation; the kids trying to take advantage of their fathers' possible fumble - or even helping that to be; a mishap between the two pairs that might bring forwards nice interactions between them (that's probably not so good idea as in the end it would probably be me writing all that stuff between the characters with no interaction with any other writer)... Just ideas.

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Should we add Garstan to the knife-throwing? It reads in his bio by Celuien: "handy with a knife"

A good idea, I think.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Also, Cnebba is a shared character of Lommy and myself so Lommy should also have a word in this - at least if she has different ideas (we've talked about Cnebba a few times and I think we share the most ideas).

I will protest loudly if Nogrod says something about Cnebba that I disagree with. So, if I'm not protesting, you may take his word for it.

And lastly, why is everybody so baffled about the recent Rowenna? Didn't we all always know that she was just a wounded child inside? (And yes I'm really serious despite that smiley... )

[Groin Redbeard]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

And lastly, why is everybody so baffled about the recent Rowenna? Didn't we all always know that she was just a wounded child inside? (And yes I'm really serious despite that smiley... )

Psychology has never been one of my strong points.

I'll get a post up for Erbrand today. Should we leave the horses on that side of the Scar, or should someone who isn't racing take them back?

[Nogrod]

That was good indeed Gwath! Like some chamber music...

I loved the mood there.

This Crabannan-fellow is becoming one of my favourites step by step...


Btw. I finally read myself up to date... The post of Saeryn and Rowenna was a masterpiece! You two are developing this mutual-posting into an art form lmp & Foley!

[Gwathagor]

I've taken mine back, Groin.

Oh, err...I mean Crabannan has taken his horse back. I think I'm having identity issues. RL has never been one of my strong points.

[Gwathagor]

Well, thanks, Nogrod. I like him, too.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

RL never have never been one of my strong points.

Don't be too modest...