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07-10-2007, 10:23 AM | #41 |
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How often will you be posting the standings?
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07-10-2007, 04:55 PM | #42 |
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Today's Points
Points will be updated after each round. Trades must be completed by 12:30pm GMT, unless otherwise stated.
Here are the points for today, Erebor The entire team recieved 0 points. Angband The defence + goalkeeper recieved 4 points. Ancalagon the Black recieved 6 points. The midfield recieved 1 point. Thuringwethel recieved 6 points. The forwards recieved 0 points. Lothlorien The defence + goalkeeper recieved 4 points. Rumil recieved 3 points. The midfield recieved 1 point. Gimli recieved 3 points. The forwards recieved 0 points. Shire The entire defence + goalkeeper recieved 4 ponts. The entire midfield recieved 1 point. The forwards recieved 0 points. Mordor The entire defence + goalkeeper recieved 0 points. The midfield recieved 0 points. Snaga recieved -1 points. The forwards recieved 0 points. Roverandom The entire defence recieved 4 points. Tinker recieved 5 points. The midfield recieved 1 point. Wizard recieved 6 points. Roverandom recieved 4 points. Man in the Moon recieved 0 points. Rohan The entire defence + goalkeeper recieved -1 points. The entire midfield and the forwards recieved 0 points. Inklings The entire defence + goalkeeper recieved 4 points. The midfield recieved 1 point. Charles Williams recieved 4 points. J.R.R Tolkien recieved 10 points. C.S Lewis recieved 3 points.
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07-10-2007, 05:12 PM | #43 |
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Today's Standings
Arcticstorm's Team
GK: Glaurung (4 points) DF: Ancalagon the Black (6 points) MF: WH Lewis (1 point) MF: Charles Williams (4 points) Total: 15 points Volo's Team MF: Thuringwethil (6 points) Total: 6 points Nogg's Ball GK: Smaug (0 points) DF: Ancalagon the Black (6 points) FW: Witch-King (0 points) Total: 6 points Saucepan (Un)Athletic FW: Pippin Took (0 points) Total: 0 points Sleepy Ranger's Team DF: Ancalagon the Black (6 points) DF: Celeborn (4 points) MF: Sam (1 point) FW: Sauron (0 points) FW: Melkor (0 points) Total: 11 points Elmo's Team MF: Thuringwethil (6 points) Total: 6 points Thenamir Untied MF: Gandalf (1 point) MF: Sam (1 point) Total: 2 points Rune's Team DF: Ancalagon the Black (6 points) DF: Ulfang (4 points) MF: Gandalf (1 point) FW: Witch-King (0 points) Total: 11 points Glirdan's Team GK: Theoden (-1 point) DF: Celeborn (4 points) DF: Eowyn (-1 point) MF: Sam (1 point) Total: 3 points Phantom's Team MF: Thuringwethil (6 points) Total: 6 points Ka's Team MF: Gandalf (1 point) FW: Melkor (0 points) Total: 1 point It seems everyone missed out on today's big scorer, J.R.R Tolkien, who bagged 10 points. Only three teams managed to score more than 10 points in the first round, surely the other rounds can only improve the standings. Of course, many people had very few players playing today. Only Saucepan Man scored a 0 today but in his defence, he only had one person playing today. At the end of round 1, the Phantom has secured bragging rights over Saucepan Man as the better analysist.
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07-10-2007, 05:30 PM | #44 |
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This probably is the thread where we should annouce our trades, right? Should we do it by editing our teams in the first post where we made our teams or post them as a new post? And if it's the first one - as I guess it is - should we notify you with a new post that we have edited our teams or is it enough that we just edit those line-ups back there and trust that you pay heed to our changes?
Not that I'm in any hurry... I will surely look at the second round of these round-robins to see whether my team's players will pick up with some performances or not (like Witch-King, Gothmog, Smaug etc.). Some of them clearly had a bad day in the first round but might prove valuable later on... PS. Rune is leading!!! Way to go!
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07-10-2007, 05:42 PM | #45 |
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Yes, Nogrod we would appreciate it very much if you announced your trade in a new post before editing your team in your original post. Though we would double check your team at the deadline to finalize it for that round.
Yes, indeed. I was really expecting Melkor and Sauron to score at least one goal a piece especially since they were such big favorites for their respective matches. Well nevermind, I'm sure they'll do better in the games to come. Just one note, at the end of the first stage your unused trades will not be taken into account so there will be no stocking of trades to the next round.
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07-10-2007, 06:01 PM | #46 |
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Thanks Sleepy!
One more question though. Is it kind of appreciated or scorned if people went speculating about the teams here in the thread - I was not here last time around and don't know the "silent rules"... I think some of the photos of the first games were quite revealing indeed...
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07-10-2007, 06:16 PM | #47 |
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No spectulation on the real life team please. Also, as to how revealing they are, believe me, you're probably wrong on your first though with some teams as I've taken the pains to actually play around with their kits a bit...
So yeah, what you see may not be what you get. In short, no spectulations on who their real life counterparts may be.
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07-11-2007, 10:53 AM | #48 |
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Here are the points for today:
Numenore Tar Ancalime—4 Amandil—6 Elros—4 Aldarion—4 Erendis—4 Tar-Minastir —4 Ar-Pharazon—1 Tar-Miriel—0 Tar-Atanamir the Great—1 Tar-Palantir —4 Buckland Saradoc—1 Drogo— -1 Misty Mountains Chief Warg—4 Gollum—4 Great Goblin—4 Nori —4 Dori—1 Bifur—1 Bofur—1 Dwalin —8 Stone Giant—4 Gwaihir—4 Bolg—5 Tol-In-Gaurhoth Werewolf—0 Black Beorning— -1 Cobbler— -1 Ordinary Villager— -1 Cursed Villager — -4 Bree Tom Bombadil—4 Goldberry—4 Bill Ferney—4 River Woman—4 Badger —4 Butterbur—1 Nob—0 Bob—1 Barrow-Wight—1 Harry—0 Old Man Willow—8 Mirkwood Spider—0 Ham Farmer Giles—8 Tailbiter— 4 Miller—11 Chrysophylax Dives —0 Garm— -1 Giant— -1 Agatha— -1 King Augustus Bonifacius — -1 Rivendell William—5 Gilraen— 5 Glorfindel—2 points Bert— -1 Elrond—0 Bilbo— -1 Elladan— -1 Erestor — -1 |
07-11-2007, 11:24 AM | #49 |
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Today's points
Arcticstorm's Team DF: Chief Warg—4 MF: Bellomarius—0 FW: Tom Bombadil—4 Total 8 points Volo's Team DF - Gollum --4 MF - Seer 0 Total:4 points Saucepan (Un)Athletic DF: Goldberry —4 DF: Elros —4 MF: Legolas –0 Total 8 points Elmo’s Team MF: Khamul—0 Total 0 points Thenamir Untied DF—Glorfindel —2 MF--Gwaihir—4 MF--Legolas—0 Total 6 points Rune’s Team DF: Glorfindel —2 FW: Stone Giant—4 Total 6 points Glirdan’s Team DF:GLORFINDEL—2 Total: 2 points Ka’s Team DF Glorfindel—2 MF: Hunter—0 MF: Radagast—0 Total: 2 points And here is the leaderboard Arcticstorm's Team: 23 points Rune's Team: 17 points Sleepy Ranger's Team: 11 points Volo's Team: 10 points Saucepan (Un)Athletic: 8 Points Thenamir Untied: 8 points Nogg's Ball: 6 points Phantom’s Team: 6 points Elmo's Team: 6 points Glirdan’s team: 5 points Ka’s Team: 3 points |
07-11-2007, 11:37 AM | #50 |
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I don't want to unduly add to your recordkeeping burdens, but if it's not too much trouble it would be handy for trading purposes to have, after each round or so, a listing of all the players with their cumulative points scored so far in the competition. For those of us for whom football is a game played with a distinctly misshapen ball.
EDIT: Hurrah! I'm moving up in the pack, tied with Saucepan! DOUBLE TAKE: Is there anyone else who sees a twinge of conflict-of-interest in ArcticStorm participating, since AS has knowledge of the real-life counterparts of the ME players? TRIPLE EDIT: I abused my powers as a Downs Admin to edit the name of my team in the foregoing posts, to "Thenamir Untied" -- in case anyone was wondering.
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07-11-2007, 12:15 PM | #51 |
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Actually I'm the only one who knows the player to player counterpart.
Anyway, AS and I are just in it for the fun we don't get the big prize in the end. Ah, yes, of course theres a prize my precious... While it would be a bit inconvenient since the list would probably begin to grow too large, I'll talk to Arcticstorm about editing the original lists with the points tally. Thenamir Untied, that reminds me of that entire Elrohir trip goal last time around...
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07-11-2007, 12:16 PM | #52 | |
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But their status surely is questionable from a fair-play point of view. Maybe we could say that for those two to win they need to gather 30 points more than the next one or something? --- I took a little time to look at the teams of the participants. Now some of them have names and some do not... and in Arcticstorms last report some were handled with the "team-name" and others were not. So just to be slick and cool, should everyone have a team name or should we refer to each other only by forum names? Here's the list of the "teams" at the moment: Arcticstorm The Fifth Wall (Volo) Nogg’s Ball (Nogrod) Saucepan (Un)Athletic Second Best (Sleepy) ??? Elmo Thenamir Untied The Reds (Rune) Glirdan the phantom The Ka
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07-11-2007, 12:21 PM | #53 |
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Oh come now, lay off arcticstorm. He doesn't know the player to player counterparts, only I know that. Despite which I went ahead and picked my favorite ME personas. Mainly due to the fact that I'm really too lazy to bother looking it up till match time.
Yes, Nogrod, my team is called Second Best and I second that everyone should name their team. It makes things more fun. As stated earlier AS and I don't win the grand prize obviously, we're just in it for the fun of it.
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07-11-2007, 12:25 PM | #54 |
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I see what you mean and if Arcticstorm is as blind as we are there is no problem... not that it would have been a problem to me even if he knew the teams but if many people would have thought the game basically unfair it would have influenced the general mood and made it less fun...
So let's just hope Sleepy your favourites aren't too good in football.. The rest of the players: come up with nice team-names!
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07-11-2007, 12:54 PM | #55 |
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I did not mean to raise too much of a ruckus, and if Arcticstorm is as much in the dark as we, then I say Play On, Macduff!
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07-11-2007, 03:33 PM | #56 | |
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So, I call games the way I want to, and when a team advances that certainly would not advance in real life, I cry foul play and slander the team's players and coaches. That's much more entertaining than knowing the real teams and making predictions based on that. Hmmm... a name for my team.... I think I'll keep things simple- Phantasy
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Hehe, the (un)athletic boys are slowly coming good.
I suggest that we lay off Arctic and Sleepy as they have been so good as to organise this thing for us in the first place and, in any event, it's all just a bit of fun. You might as well disqualify the likes of phantom and me from the competition, as we know how some of the teams fared las year. For that matter, you might as well disqualify anyone who knows anything about football from participating in any fantasy leagues as it's unfair on those who don't. Let's just forget any question of 'inside knowledge' and get on with having fun. Quote:
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07-11-2007, 11:00 PM | #58 | ||
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My picks are based completely on what I think ought to happen. I don't consider last year at all. Quote:
Take Frodo's Ring trek. Sauron had no idea what the other team was trying to accomplish, and did not know where the ball (Ring) was. That does not happen on the soccer field. There is a clearly defined method of victory (putting the ball in the net) and the ball can only be put there in certain ways legally. You can't pick up the ball, toss it into the stands, have a crowd member carry it behind the goal, and then toss it to someone standing on top of the goal to drop it in. That sort of trickery is not allowed. The ball cannot come from the rear nor can it completely disappear from view only to pop up on the opposite end of the field. Soccer is much more like a huge battle than some sort of quest. And in a straight up fight, the inferior participant does not tend to win in Tolkien's works. When Morgoth/Sauron have the military advantage, they win. Oh sure, there are some glorious moments in defeat (Fingolfin's duel, Dor-Lomin's last stand), but the outcome is rarely any sort of "upset". So don't even try that angle with me. I refuse to believe any explanation for hobbits faring well in this tournament. They're cheats! Big fat prediction-ruining cheats!! Aaaaaggghhhh!!!! *gasps for air after rant*
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07-12-2007, 08:39 PM | #60 |
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Sorry these are so late in coming.
All players have their current point values by their names in the original list. Today's results Moria Oin –4 Ori – 4 Nar – 4 Celebrimbor – 4 Narvi – 1 Durin – 1 Durin’s Bane –1 Thror –-1 Watcher in the water—8 Valinor Manwe –4 Aule—4 Yavanna –4 Lorien—4 Mandos –1 Orome –1 Pallando –1 Eonwe –1 Alatar—1 Varda—3 Tuna Miriel –4 Maglor –4 Amrod –4 Amras –4 Caranthir –1 Ingwe –1 Finarfin –1 Fingolfin—4 Finwe—4 Finarfin—4 Madhros—7 Brethil Dorlas— -1 Niniel—1 Haleth – -1 Brandir – -1 Dorlas – -1 Hunthor— -1 Tol Eressea Vaire –4 Lindo –4 Osse –4 Olwe –4 Uinen –1 Indis –1 Eriol—5 Frodo—4 Dor Lomin Turin—2 Barrow-downs Firefoot – 4 Formendacil - 4 Glirdan – 4 Nogrod - 4 Arcticstorm – 1 The Phantom – 6 Feanor of the Peredhil –1 Barrow-wight—6 Rune son of Bjarne –4 Sleepy Ranger—3 Gondor Damrod – -1 Denethor – -1 Beregond – -1 Imrahil – -1 Last edited by arcticstorm; 07-13-2007 at 08:02 AM. |
07-12-2007, 10:36 PM | #61 |
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Finally the team standings after day 3
The Grinding Ice Arcticstorm—1 Pallando—1 Total:6 The Fifth Wall Nogrod—4 Oin—4 Total:8 Nogg’s ball Nogrod—4 Manwë –4 Feanor of the Peredhil—1 Maedhros (tuna)—7 Total: 16 Saucepan (Un)Athletic Manwe—4 the phantom—6 total: 10 Second Best Glirdan—4 Aule—4 The Phantom—6 Durin's Bane—1 Sleepy Ranger—3 Total: 18 Elmo Aule—4 Manwe—4 Orome—1 Sleepy Ranger—3 Rune Son of Bjarn—4 Total:16 Thenamir Untied Watcher in the Water—8 FW—Frodo—4 The Reds Fingolfin –4 Feanor of the Peredhil – 1 Rune Son of Bjarne – 4 Total: 9 Glirdan GLIRDAN –4 SLEEPY RANGER—3 Total:7 Phantasy MAEDHROS—7 THE PHANTOM—6 EONWE—1 MAGLOR—4 Total: 18 The Ka Ulwe –4 Sleepy Ranger –3 Finwe –4 Total: 11 The Grinding Ice: 29 points Second Best: 29 points The Reds: 26 points Phantasy:24 Elmo's Team: 22 points Nogg's Ball: 22 points Thenamir Untied: 19 points The Fifth wall: 18 points Saucepan (Un)Athletic: 18 Points Ka’s Team: 14 points Glirdan’s team: 12 points Last edited by arcticstorm; 07-13-2007 at 03:03 PM. |
07-12-2007, 11:04 PM | #62 |
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Question- why did Maedhros only earn me three points?
Didn't he have an assist (3), another assist (3), and hold the other team scoreless as a midfielder (1), and thus gain me 7 points?
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In any event, applying a literal approach would require Moria only to play on pitches that had a large lake behind their goal ...
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07-13-2007, 09:29 AM | #67 |
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Maybe you could then fix the same with Nogg's Ball as my Maedhros has only brought me the three points instead of seven?
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07-13-2007, 09:35 PM | #68 |
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OK hopefully everything is fixed now, if anyone sees any more mistakes I inadvertantly make,let me know either on here or through a pm.
anyway, today's matches were rather low on the points scale and at least one keeper was left at 0 points because of the lack of shots to save. here are today's points, and hopefully they are correct this time. Niggle's Parish Inspector—3 Atkins –5 Niggle—-1 Mrs. Parish— -2 1stVoice— -2 2nd Voice— -2 Porter— -2 Nargothrond Mormegil—14 Felagund—10 Gundor—3 Fangorn Skinbark –6 Treebeard—3 Old Grey Hill Guest –4 Gondolin Ecthelion—2 Turgon –5 Hurin—5 Glorfindel—3 Wooton Major Fairy Queen—5 Ned—3 Smith— -1 Chief Cook— -1 Art— -1 Harper— -1 Nell— -1 Doriath Mablung—6 Beren—4 Luthien—4 Thingol—4 Dior—1 Beleg—1 Melian—4 Arnor Halbard— -1 Elendil— -1 Argeleb— -1 Isildur— -1 |
07-13-2007, 09:53 PM | #69 |
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Not many points were scored today with a close race between those losing points and those gaining, despite this however, MOrmegil gave a few of your teams a large boost. These are the points scored today:
The Fifth Wall GK – Niggle -1 DF - First Voice -2 Total: -3 Nogg’s ball Beleg—1 Total: 1 Saucepan (Un)athletic Beleg –1 Mormegil—14 Total:15 Thenamir Untied Beren --4 Luthien—4 Total:8 The Reds Thingol—4 Phantasy MORMEGIL—14 HURIN —5 Total:19 and so the standings after 1 full round of play: Phantasy:43 Saucepan (Un)Athletic: 33 Points The Reds: 30 points The Grinding Ice: 29 points Second Best: 29 points Thenamir Untied: 27 points Nogg's Ball: 23 points Elmo's Team: 22 points The Fifth wall: 15 points Ka’s Team: 14 points Glirdan’s team: 12 points |
07-14-2007, 12:46 AM | #70 |
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a bunch of questions....
Now is the time for trades, correct? How do we go about it? Sleepy has announced the next four matches- who are the other teams playing in the next batch of games? Or are we not allowed to know? When will the next set of games kick off? I'm worried that it will begin before I've had a chance to pull some of my players.
(And yay for me! I can now say that I led the standings for at least one round of matches but things can go south quickly in a fantasy league. )
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07-14-2007, 04:03 AM | #71 |
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Of course, trades have been open since when the competiton began. As for the next set of fixtures, I really have no idea since I generally decide it while putting it up. Regardless, all teams will have played 3 games each by the end of the group stages. So therefore no trade could really be all that disastrous at the moment.
To trade a player, simply mention who you are trading and edit your original post.
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07-14-2007, 09:36 AM | #72 |
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Thank goodness for Mormegil, since I have got precious few points from my other attackers. Only problem is, Team Phantasy has him too ...
And now the worst thing about fantasy football competitions. My indecision, combined with my fear that I will transfer a player out only to have them go on and score a hatful of goals or go on an unbeaten run of clean sheets, makes the trade system a nightmare for me. Anyway, I am happy with my defence (although I need Gondolin to perform better at the back) and, after some deliberation, have decided to leave things be for now in the hope that Pippin, the Saucepan Man and my midfielders will shape up in the next round of Group matches.
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But oh well- it's just a game, right? For now, I'm going to substitute ANCALAGON (Angband) in for MAGLOR (Tuna). I can't make any other subs at this time as I do not know the matchups. (now watch Maglor shut the other team out while Angband gets trampled )
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07-14-2007, 12:09 PM | #74 |
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I have also, after much debate, decided to replace FEANOR (Tuna) with SPM (Barrow-Downs).
If you play poorly and Feanor scores goals, I'm going to be very upset with you!
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07-16-2007, 08:11 AM | #75 |
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Oh well, I'm doing mediocre as expected, can I call my team Bayer Neverlusen by the way?
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A minor suggestion:
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And speaking of best players, excellent play, Sauce! You wowed the crowd, and got me a few fantasy points to boot. Thirteen points if I figured correctly! So, let's see... so far in round 2... Eonwe- hasn't played Ancalagon- 0 Thuringwethil- 8 Maedhros- 8 the phantom- 5 The Saucepan Man- 13 Curufin- 4 Mormegil- 8 Ulmo- 4 Maeglin- 4 Hurin- 11 best players bonus- 6 Round 2 Points: 71 Total Points: 114
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07-16-2007, 04:33 PM | #78 |
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The best player is the man of the match. For whatever reason we haven't bothered revealing them to public so far. However you could figure it out yourself by just seeing who got an extra 2 points...
So yeah, I have no clue why we don't bother revealing it.
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07-16-2007, 04:41 PM | #79 |
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Oh, so there is one chosen in every game...
So, I suppose that means my totals are off, seeing as SPM, Mormegil, Hurin, Thuringwethil, and Maedhros would all possibly be in the mix for "man of the match" in the last round of games.
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07-16-2007, 04:46 PM | #80 |
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Feel free to add six points to your total on account of bonus points. Btw, the match report for the Gondolin - Mirkwood match is up.
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