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Starbreeze · 03-12-2002, 03:11 PM

I was really creeped out be the Marshes *shudders* I can't wait to see how they do it in the film though.

Gorin Icearms · 03-12-2002, 03:28 PM

My brother (what a nice guy [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]) recently purchased "A Guide to Middle Earth" by David Day for me, and it has an (to my knowledge) accurate description of the Watcher in the Water. After reading this, I made the mistake of trying to picture it. Ewwwwwwwww.

Kraken

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According to the most ancient tales, Melkor, that most evil of powers, in his kingdom of Utumno in Middle Earth bred many terrible creatures for which there are no names in the Time of Darkness before Varda rekindled the stars. In the following ages these creatures were a bane on land and in dark waters to those who lived peacefully in the World.

Some of these beings of Melkor's survived below the thunders of the deep far beneath the abysmal seas in ancient, dreamless, uninvaded sleep even into the Third Age of the Sun. The "Red Book of Westmarch" tells that when a firey Balrog was loosed in the Dwarf-kingdom of Moria, another being came out from the dark waters that lay beneath the great mountains. This was a great Kraken, many tentacled and with a slimy sheen. It was luminous and green and an inky stench came from it's foul bulk. Like a legion of serpents it lay in the black water beneath the mountain. Eventually it came to the clear water of the River Sirannon, which flowed from the West Gate of Moria. There it built a great wall in the river bed and made for itself a black pool, hideous and still. The Kraken was guardian of the West Gate and none could pass without challenge. For this reason, in the "Book of Marzarbul" it was named "Watcher in the Water". During the quest, this evil being was awakened by the Fellowship of the Ring, who managed to escape into Moria.

Whew. Specifically Boromir awakened it. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

VanimaEdhel · 03-12-2002, 06:25 PM

Hey! No worries, mellonamin (my friend), for I am only 14 as well! And do not worry: I have a friend who had to leave in the movie when the Nazgul came on...and did not come back for 20 minutes...my friend and I yelled at him SO much...Oh well...enjoy the site! As you can see, I am a "Recently Deceased" as well!

ElanorGamgee · 03-12-2002, 06:39 PM

Things that scared me:

-Orcs catapulting heads (that took me completely off guard!)

-The Dead Marshes

-The Barrow-Downs

-Denethor's death

-The mutilation of Thrór in Appendix A

-The attack on the Fellowship in Moria

-Pippin and the Palantír

Also, Saruman talking about Lotho's murder really got to me, especially the bit when he says to the affect of "I hope Wormtongue buried him, but he's been hungry lately." I know this was most likely just sick humor, but ick! And I can't imagine anyone actually killing a poor, defensless hobbit in its sleep. Wormtongue gives me the creeps.

[ March 12, 2002: Message edited by: ElanorGamgee ]

Amarinth · 03-14-2002, 10:08 AM

shelob scared me too---never did like marilyn manson...

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Starbreeze · 03-14-2002, 03:25 PM

Lol! Marilyn Manson! SOOOOOOOO funny! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Enedhil · 03-15-2002, 05:35 PM

first of all - what's the connection between shelob *shudder* and marilyn manson *shudder*? sorry for being slightly dim [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

And now, after reading through all the replies, safe to say i'm feeling just a bit squeamish [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]
And apart from severed heads, giant spiders and orcs, i was terrified all the way through Mordor. Wanted to crawl under a big stone and hide. Or a small stone. Cos i really felt that tall -->*holds two fingers about three inches apart*

I read a little clip somewhere, Elijah saying that he used to look over his shoulder sometimes, in case there was orcs following him *eek* [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]

Have an image (I get a lot of that :P) of us folks creeping through Mordor behind Sam and Frodo, clinging to each other, looking around fearfully and armed with bows, swords, knives etc... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Jessica Jade · 03-15-2002, 08:19 PM

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first of all - what's the connection between shelob *shudder* and marilyn manson *shudder*? sorry for being slightly dim

seriously, what IS the connection? I don't get it either... [img]smilies/confused.gif[/img]

Maikadilwen · 03-16-2002, 06:21 PM

I'm not easily frightened. I LOVE the Nazgûl (well, most evil things actually...) [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] Though there is ONE thing in the movie that creeps me out every time I see it: Frodo's eyes. Oh, I can't stand them. (Sorry to all Frodo lovers).

Starbreeze · 03-17-2002, 01:36 PM

Maikadilwen, I agree with you about Frodo's eyes! Creepy! The worst thing is, my friend can do a really great impression of them so when ever I turn around to look at her she does Frodo eyes at me! Argh! lol! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Jessica Jade · 03-17-2002, 01:51 PM

erm, why do you think Frodo's eyes are scary? I think his eyes are big and blue and beautiful, if you want ot know the truth! [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] Besdies, he's not an evil character, so why would his eyes ever be scary? i just don't understand....i think elijah wood has the most amazing eyes [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

[ March 17, 2002: Message edited by: Jessica Jade ]

ElanorGamgee · 03-17-2002, 02:00 PM

The only time I think Elijah's eyes are creepy is when he's been stabbed by the Nazgûl and he's struggling against becoming a wraith. Other than that, I think his eyes are beautiful [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Maikadilwen · 03-17-2002, 03:10 PM

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my friend can do a really great impression of them so when ever I turn around to look at her she does Frodo eyes at me!

Oh no. I feel SO sorry for you.
They're just..... just.... argh, they're just too big and too blue and too..... happy???? And scary. [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]

[ March 17, 2002: Message edited by: Maikadilwen ]

Noxomanus · 03-24-2003, 10:06 AM

I think the Dead Marshes was what frightened me most,the balrog didn't really scare me but I was merely shocked it took Gandalf with it.Mordor was quite frightening though,but Shelob really didn't freak me out

Schmendrick · 03-24-2003, 12:58 PM

I just can't believe that not everyone found the Nazgul most frightening! For me, nothing compares them. When I was reading about them (at night...), I was so scared, I almost couldn't look out of my window. I was sure I would see a black shape in the shadows!
And same thing when I came from the movies - I kept watching over my shoulder and thought I heard their (or their horse's?) voices...
I guess it's the fact that they are nor living nor dead that makes them so scary. To be dragged to their "nothingness" would definitely be worse than death!
I think Shelob and the Orcs were only gross, not really scary... (even if I am really arachnofobic!)
And the ring of course. Not really scary, but so evil...(By the way, when I made a test "Which of the bad guys are you?" I was...THE RING! Wonder what that means... [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img])

GaladrieloftheOlden · 03-24-2003, 01:03 PM

In the books, there were very many places which I thought were scary, but....in a weird and twisted way. It was pleasant that they were scary. I don't know why. The one I thought was just gruesome was Shelob. And possibly one of the things with the spiders in the Hobbit when Bilbo is piercing it and JRRT just describes how....*shudders* ugh... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

merenwen · 03-24-2003, 05:43 PM

oooo i agree with the head catapulting thing, that was just kinda...what's the word..gruesome? i dont know it just freaked me out!

Cibbwin · 03-30-2003, 02:00 AM

I personally LOVE spiders, so I'd be more amazed by Shelob more than anything. And yes, I'm nuts! [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

The one thing in the movie that scared the CRAP out of me was the dead marshes, especially when that particular elf opened his eyes... /shudder

That, and Denethor's suicide... Gods, that is so disturbing I can't describe it...

Estelyn Telcontar · 04-01-2003, 09:27 AM

Whoa, an opinion thread that survived in the depths of the Books forum - now that is scary! [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] Time to move this to the Novices and Newcomers forum...

Peri · 04-02-2003, 03:43 PM

In the movies, I thought the Balrog and the cavetroll were really frightening. In the books, it was the ringwraiths that gave me the creeps. Maybe it's just me, but things seem to be even more menacing when you read them. Maybe it's the fact that I have problems putting faces on characters, so all the characters are very mysterious, especially the evil ones. When you see them defined for you on the screen, it kinda takes away from the intensity of fear I have when I read about them.

Tinuviel the Nightingale · 04-03-2003, 05:10 AM

I agree with most things:
eg. severed heads, thrors death, denethor, Frodo's ringwraith eyes (*shudders*)

but I found Boromir's whole, turning against Frodo thing kinda creepy, because in my opinion he started out to be one of the strongest and noblest characters. Just proves that you just can't trust some people...

The Evenstar · 04-06-2003, 11:48 AM

Yea, those Watchers give me the creeps, even though the the Orcs are hideous!

03-12-2002, 03:11 PM	#41
Starbreeze Ghost of a Smile Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mirkwood - Middle Earth Posts: 389	I was really creeped out be the Marshes shudders I can't wait to see how they do it in the film though. __________________ Do not tamper with the affairs of wizards, they are not all that subtle - Terry Pratchett To write is to make dreams, to make dreams is to awaken the fantasy of the mind, to awaken the mind is to be a master.

03-12-2002, 06:25 PM	#43
VanimaEdhel Etheral Enchantress Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wellesley College! Posts: 1,461	Hey! No worries, mellonamin (my friend), for I am only 14 as well! And do not worry: I have a friend who had to leave in the movie when the Nazgul came on...and did not come back for 20 minutes...my friend and I yelled at him SO much...Oh well...enjoy the site! As you can see, I am a "Recently Deceased" as well! __________________ "I think we dream so we don't have to be apart so long. If we're in each others dreams, we can be together all the time." - Hobbes of Calvin and Hobbes

03-12-2002, 06:39 PM	#44
ElanorGamgee Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 314	Things that scared me: -Orcs catapulting heads (that took me completely off guard!) -The Dead Marshes -The Barrow-Downs -Denethor's death -The mutilation of Thrór in Appendix A -The attack on the Fellowship in Moria -Pippin and the Palantír Also, Saruman talking about Lotho's murder really got to me, especially the bit when he says to the affect of "I hope Wormtongue buried him, but he's been hungry lately." I know this was most likely just sick humor, but ick! And I can't imagine anyone actually killing a poor, defensless hobbit in its sleep. Wormtongue gives me the creeps. [ March 12, 2002: Message edited by: ElanorGamgee ] __________________ Soli Deo Gloria

03-14-2002, 10:08 AM	#45
Amarinth Wight Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: realm of agonized volcanoes Posts: 113	shelob scared me too---never did like marilyn manson... --------------------------------------------- every man's life is a path to the truth -- hesse __________________ pity this busy monster,manunkind, not / -progress is a comfortable disease;/ your victim (death and life safely beyond) / plays with the bigness of his littleness ---ee cummings

03-14-2002, 03:25 PM	#46
Starbreeze Ghost of a Smile Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mirkwood - Middle Earth Posts: 389	Lol! Marilyn Manson! SOOOOOOOO funny! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ Do not tamper with the affairs of wizards, they are not all that subtle - Terry Pratchett To write is to make dreams, to make dreams is to awaken the fantasy of the mind, to awaken the mind is to be a master.

03-15-2002, 05:35 PM	#47
Enedhil Wight Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Scotland Posts: 102	first of all - what's the connection between shelob shudder and marilyn manson shudder? sorry for being slightly dim [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] And now, after reading through all the replies, safe to say i'm feeling just a bit squeamish [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] And apart from severed heads, giant spiders and orcs, i was terrified all the way through Mordor. Wanted to crawl under a big stone and hide. Or a small stone. Cos i really felt that tall -->holds two fingers about three inches apart I read a little clip somewhere, Elijah saying that he used to look over his shoulder sometimes, in case there was orcs following him eek [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] Have an image (I get a lot of that :P) of us folks creeping through Mordor behind Sam and Frodo, clinging to each other, looking around fearfully and armed with bows, swords, knives etc... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ Meanwhile these three remain: Faith, Hope and Love. And the greatest of these is Love.

03-16-2002, 06:21 PM	#49
Maikadilwen Summoner of Lost Souls Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: At home, with my Strongbow Posts: 521	I'm not easily frightened. I LOVE the Nazgûl (well, most evil things actually...) [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] Though there is ONE thing in the movie that creeps me out every time I see it: Frodo's eyes. Oh, I can't stand them. (Sorry to all Frodo lovers). __________________ -"Death borders upon our birth, and our cradle stands in the grave. Our birth is nothing but our death begun."

03-17-2002, 01:36 PM	#50
Starbreeze Ghost of a Smile Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mirkwood - Middle Earth Posts: 389	Maikadilwen, I agree with you about Frodo's eyes! Creepy! The worst thing is, my friend can do a really great impression of them so when ever I turn around to look at her she does Frodo eyes at me! Argh! lol! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ Do not tamper with the affairs of wizards, they are not all that subtle - Terry Pratchett To write is to make dreams, to make dreams is to awaken the fantasy of the mind, to awaken the mind is to be a master.

03-17-2002, 01:51 PM	#51
Jessica Jade Wight Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Tirion upon Túna, Atlanta Posts: 154	erm, why do you think Frodo's eyes are scary? I think his eyes are big and blue and beautiful, if you want ot know the truth! [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] Besdies, he's not an evil character, so why would his eyes ever be scary? i just don't understand....i think elijah wood has the most amazing eyes [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [ March 17, 2002: Message edited by: Jessica Jade ] __________________ http://www.cadential64.com The musicians had indeed laid bare the youngest, most innocent of our ideas of life, the indestructible yearning for the way things aren't and can never be. ~ Philip Roth, The Human Stain

03-17-2002, 02:00 PM	#52
ElanorGamgee Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 314	The only time I think Elijah's eyes are creepy is when he's been stabbed by the Nazgûl and he's struggling against becoming a wraith. Other than that, I think his eyes are beautiful [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Soli Deo Gloria

03-24-2003, 10:06 AM	#54
Noxomanus Wight Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 233	I think the Dead Marshes was what frightened me most,the balrog didn't really scare me but I was merely shocked it took Gandalf with it.Mordor was quite frightening though,but Shelob really didn't freak me out __________________ Nothing is evil in the beginning,even Sauron wasn't

03-24-2003, 12:58 PM	#55
Schmendrick Wight Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: unidentified Posts: 105	I just can't believe that not everyone found the Nazgul most frightening! For me, nothing compares them. When I was reading about them (at night...), I was so scared, I almost couldn't look out of my window. I was sure I would see a black shape in the shadows! And same thing when I came from the movies - I kept watching over my shoulder and thought I heard their (or their horse's?) voices... I guess it's the fact that they are nor living nor dead that makes them so scary. To be dragged to their "nothingness" would definitely be worse than death! I think Shelob and the Orcs were only gross, not really scary... (even if I am really arachnofobic!) And the ring of course. Not really scary, but so evil...(By the way, when I made a test "Which of the bad guys are you?" I was...THE RING! Wonder what that means... [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]) __________________ Be strong, saith my heart; I am a soldier, I have seen worse sights than this. - Iliad -

03-24-2003, 01:03 PM	#56
GaladrieloftheOlden Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Massachusetts - digging up a bottomless hole, searching for something that's not there... Posts: 1,514	In the books, there were very many places which I thought were scary, but....in a weird and twisted way. It was pleasant that they were scary. I don't know why. The one I thought was just gruesome was Shelob. And possibly one of the things with the spiders in the Hobbit when Bilbo is piercing it and JRRT just describes how....shudders ugh... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ "Glue... very powerful stuff."

03-24-2003, 05:43 PM	#57
merenwen Animated Skeleton Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: in my happy place! Posts: 47	oooo i agree with the head catapulting thing, that was just kinda...what's the word..gruesome? i dont know it just freaked me out! __________________ " you are a total... total... a word has yet to be invented to describe how totally whatever it is you are, but you are one, and a total, total one at that!"

03-30-2003, 02:00 AM	#58
Cibbwin Wight Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California Posts: 145	I personally LOVE spiders, so I'd be more amazed by Shelob more than anything. And yes, I'm nuts! [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] The one thing in the movie that scared the CRAP out of me was the dead marshes, especially when that particular elf opened his eyes... /shudder That, and Denethor's suicide... Gods, that is so disturbing I can't describe it... __________________ The Warrior Hobbit Nîn o Chithaeglir, lasto beth daer; Rimmo nîn Bruinen, dan in Ulaer!

04-01-2003, 09:27 AM	#59
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Whoa, an opinion thread that survived in the depths of the Books forum - now that is scary! [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] Time to move this to the Novices and Newcomers forum... __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

04-02-2003, 03:43 PM	#60
Peri Wight Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Rivendell Posts: 124	In the movies, I thought the Balrog and the cavetroll were really frightening. In the books, it was the ringwraiths that gave me the creeps. Maybe it's just me, but things seem to be even more menacing when you read them. Maybe it's the fact that I have problems putting faces on characters, so all the characters are very mysterious, especially the evil ones. When you see them defined for you on the screen, it kinda takes away from the intensity of fear I have when I read about them. __________________ "Ah, but I'll begowk ye there!" cried the gentleman. "Play me false, and I'll play you cunning."

04-03-2003, 05:10 AM	#61
Tinuviel the Nightingale Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Splashing around in Galadriel's Mirror Posts: 299	I agree with most things: eg. severed heads, thrors death, denethor, Frodo's ringwraith eyes (shudders) but I found Boromir's whole, turning against Frodo thing kinda creepy, because in my opinion he started out to be one of the strongest and noblest characters. Just proves that you just can't trust some people... __________________ I am no longer Saruman the White... I am Saruman THE BRINGER OF ALL THINGS FLUFFY AND SPECIAL! Join Legends of Middle Earth!

04-06-2003, 11:48 AM	#62
The Evenstar Wight Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Rivendell Posts: 103	Yea, those Watchers give me the creeps, even though the the Orcs are hideous! __________________ "The love of the Elves for their land and their works is deeper than the deeps of the sea." - Galadriel