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03-30-2006, 08:36 PM | #801 |
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More random facts.
The roles were drawn randomly, I assure you. I spent part of my time waiting for our French instructor to arrive to draw lots. I was astonished to see the names coming out. Nobody would believe me this was random. I was right.
Well, the Lover roles weren't random. My first choice was Eomer and Cailín (for obvious reasons ), then Kath and daga'y. And, for a while, I was thinking of making spawn and Formendaga Lovers, just so I'd have a reason to challenge him to a duel (not that I need a reason, but hey! ) But then, Lhuna, not content in being a Werewolf, asked me to make her a Lover with Farael. You ask her why him. The Oathsworn idea sounds good, although the Lovers make for a more interesting death post, don't you think? Speaking of, apologies to some for my death posts. Many of them (especially the DAY deaths) were not done as well as I would have wanted, due to lack of time. Moderate a game during your finals week, what do you get? I had a nice death post for Lalaith cooked up, after my sister texted me that Form told him she was their NIGHT's kill. It involved Romeo and Juliet quotes (that was for Abercrombie, in case she's reading) but then Sam told me he wanted Celu dead. Well, I thought the 'Freud to death' post was nice, too. *grins* Now, in a Lover game, the chance of Wolf-on-Wolf voting increases drastically. I was . . . well, a bit surprised to see that some of you declared the Kath voters more innocent-seeming than the Lhuna voters. Remember, the Werewolves themselves aren't always really sure of who the Lovers are, so some of these fratricidal voters might just be feeling for the lupine Lover. Formendacil and Samwise were masterful Werewolves. Too bad the Mod's commandments conspired against them. *tongue* I've learned a lot about village mechanics in this game. I hope to apply them as a villager soon--although that doesn't mean I'm sure I could play in your game, Farael. I really want to, believe me, but bleah!
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03-30-2006, 09:33 PM | #803 |
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Night Two seer to seer PMs
Talk about good instincts! I wish I'd gone back and read Spawn's PMs during the game! ....
LMP: Well. You and I have survived Day 1. You did better than I. But that's okay. Getting voted for in such a big field may help reveal a few things. I think we can accept Lal's innocence as likely, given Lhuna's vote for her. Naturally, I'm suspicious of Gurthang, less so of Eomer now that the day's done. I tend to think that Eomer is being honest with his "master plan", and that I was his guinea pig. Fair enough. What do you think of Ang? Do you think he's right about Glirdan? My "tick" plan didn't get me very far. I think a good hard study of Day 1 now that it's complete will reveal much, after which I'll be more ready to discuss about whom to dream. Thoughts? Spawn: Cailín's vote, well, she said that she won't be much around on Day 1. When she had to vote, only Lommy, Lalaith and I had posted, and I think she wanted to choose one of us three because voting for someone before s/he has even spoken looks a bit too odd. I'm not sure what to think of her now. I'm a bit worried of Kath, though. She didn't say much and her vote for Eomer was odd. Tar-a voted for Eomer for the same reasons on Day 1 in the last game, and she was innocent. Is Kath a wolf voting for an innocent/ a wolf with the same reasons hoping that we'd think that she's innocent, too? A vote for a fellow wolf won't look suspicious to other wolves if it was something that they had agreed on during their Nightly discussions. No doubt, those two thing are their goals, but actually, if one lover dies, the other lover will die automatically, too. But I think the wolves are ready to lose one of their own in order to find out who of the wolves are trustworthy. I'm a bit suspicious of Samwise because he seemed somewhat eager to make a case against Cailin accusing that her suspicions weren't reasoned enough, but neither were Samwise's. He then kind of backed off saying that "And yet, I can't help but think that no wolf would be so stupid on day one. Any thoughts?" Also, that 'any thoughts' part seems wolvish because it looks like as though he was trying to find out if it was possible to get rid of her today without looking too questionable. When I mentioned that, he answered: "Spawn, you have raised the issue that my suspicions of Cailin may have seemed baseless, due to a lack of evidence. So here we go: Posts #5 & #9 between them point the finger at eight- that's right, eight- different individuals. That's over one third of our village randomly accused by this little lady. That's at least a little suspicious, isn't it? Couple this with a very early vote and Cailin makes my list. Not my 'Is a wolf and must be horribly murdered' list, but at least my 'Ooh, that's odd' list." He sees quite a lot of trouble to say: "Ooh, that's odd." I think he might be a wolf. Besides, I don't trust those who apologise their votes (like Lhuna and Samwise did). Btw, want to explain Eomer's plan to me? I really didn't get it yet. About Ang and Glirdan, Lhuna said: "I feel that both Garin and Glirdan are innocent, just completely misled." I believe her. If Glirdan was a wolf, she would probably have voted for Garin to make it sure that Glirdan won't end up lynched. That said, I think TGWBS is innocent, too. I'm inclined to trust Anguirel for now. LMP: I'm not so worried about Kath yet. I find her reasoning to be believable. And actually somewhat agreeable. Nevertheless, it would be unnecessary for the werewolves to vote for each other so early unless they have a 'grand plan maestro' amongst them.... which is not out of the question. Still, it's one of those things that is the less likely of two options, the other being that the werewolves are unlikely to vote for each other so as not to unnecessarily risk helping to lynch one of their number; besides, they look at the odds of the seers finding them on Night 1 as being rather slim, which it was, and figure that voting for an innocent on Day 1 probably will not do much harm. I still think the werewolves are too much realists (the position forces this on you, know what I mean?) to risk losing of their number faster than they need to. Granted, one of the werewolves is aiming to lynch the other three, but the success rate of that can't be all that great. It's something to keep an eye on though. Good points on Samwise. Saying "thoughts?" doesn't seem wolvish to me, it seems like someone who is admittedly confused and is hoping for some help from fellow innocents. I do it a lot. Hmmmm.... no wonder people wrongly suspect me!.... If Eomer's innocent 1) He thinks I'm probably innocent and I'm his guinea pig and he's trying to see if he can flush out a werewolf trying to vote safely. (2) He thinks I may be a werewolf and I'm his guinea pig and he's trying to see if he can determine who's probably innocent. (3) If he's a werewolf, he knows I'm innocent and is trying to get me lynched. If he's the ordo lover, he (1) & (2) apply, but so does (3) except for him not being a werewolf. Have the Lovers been allowed to communicate before Day 1? I agree with you on Ang, Glirdan, & Garin. I have a sixth sense about Gurthang as another werewolf. Let's look through his posts, eh? Spawn: Fair enough. It's just my habit to suspect Kath, I guess. If I'm still alive tomorrow, I'll keep an eye on her, though. Unnecessary, perhaps, but my experience is that wolves just love to be tricky. However, looking at toDay's voting, I don't think that there were wolf on wolf votes. Another thing is that Samwise went after Cailin because she mentioned eight names. What about Gurthang ? He just agreed with something that Guthang said about TGWBS. Perhaps they're both wolves... Samwise's way to say it seemed similar to Aiwendil's behaviour in last game. Samwise tried his best to make a good case out of a minimal amount of material and then he asks what people think about it. If others would have said that he might be onto something, he could have voted for Cailin and no-one would have found his vote suspicious - even if Cailin would have been lynched and proven innocent. That's why I think polling fellow villagers is suspicious, because if you're innocent, you can't really trust but yourself, no matter what others say. But if you're a wolf, that's a good way to find out what's regarded as suspicious and what's not. Okay. I don't know about the Lovers' PMing, though. I've looked now at Gurthangs posts. #20, the lover theories. I think it's a silly idea that the lovers would openly leave clues for each other. That doesn't make sense. Besides, is he trying to make people concentrate on the Lover issue instead of finding the wolves? Hmm... He also mentiones Lhuna - is this the infamous 'mild suspicion of a fellow wolf' act? [paranoia]Also, would an innocent be so bold as to hint himself to be a seer, lover and a wolf in one post? A good chance for a wolf to confess his wolvishness without that no-one pays attention.[/paranoia] #42, TGWBS & Naria Says maybe we should vote for him and then takes it back. Kind of snaps at Naria although to me it seems that she didn't even suspect Gurthang when she pointed out that he had already mentioned six suspicious people. Weird. #96, abandons his old theories I don't know what to say. #126, #130, a vote + about tomorrow I've never seen Gurthang in a WW game at this time. Is he a wolf who wanted to make sure that his or his fellow wolves' fur wasn't in danger of getting skinned? Possibly worth dreaming of, I think. LMP: Yes, I agree that Gurthang is a prime candidate for dreaming; Samwise comes in second for me ... so far ... and that may change come end of Day 2. I'd like to work out a strategy with you as to what to plan for down the road. At some point the werewolves are probably going to manage to kill one of us. What should the remaining seer do? For how long? etc. If one of us starts getting enough votes to be lynched, say me, do I go silent as the lamb, or do I say I'm one of the seers and give the village what I know so far? Back to one of us, you for example, getting killed by werewolves. The longer that doesn't happen, the better obviously. If it happens tonight and.... (1) Gurthang turns out to be a werewolf, do I "come out" with my two werewolves, or not? I'd hate to see such valuable info get wasted. (2) ....and Gurthang turns out to be innocent, what then? Day 2 seems awfully early to reveal with only one werewolf known by us; two known and it seems like it might be worth it. Each Day further in, and the more it seems worth revealing if we have two werewolves to point out. What do you think we should do, when? Spawn: Shall I PM Nilp that we pick Gurthang, then, or do you want to do that? I'm ready to wait till next Night with Samwise. Gurthang seems more influential, so it's better to make sure what he is first. Strategy, well, if it's certain that one of us is a goner, the other one should probably vote with the majority. It may look incriminating to other villagers, but the wolves might be fooled. In that case, whichever of us is going to get lynched should reveal all we know. If it looks like you're in danger of getting lynched tomorrow, I won't probably defend you, right? I don't know if silence is the best defense... Luckily we can PM during Day, too. If one of us gets killed by the wolves toNight... that's a tough one. I certainly hope it won't happen, but if Gurthang is a wolf, maybe it would be best for the remaining Seer then leave some obvious clues of our dreams and hope that the wolves will miss them. If Gurthang's innocent, maybe it's best to mildly hint to his innocence and keep your fingers crossed. I don't know. I have a terrible feeling that I won't last long in this game. It's hard to tell yet when it would be ideal for one of us to step forth. I guess we'll have to see what happens in the next few days, but basically, if a Seer can name two wolves, that's pretty good. Naturally, I'd like to wait as late as possible so that we could give the villagers more information, though. LMP: I agree on voting with the majority. Seers need to hide just as much as werewolves do .... it's why they get suspected of being werewolves as like as not. Yes on revealing all we know if it looks like one of us is going to get lynched. But! ..... speak up before it's too late to get Lhuna lynched so that it can have an effect the same Day. Don't defend me if I look in danger of getting lynched, and I won't defend you. I fear that I may have tipped our hand a little bit by listing THREE substantive posts by you compared to only one by everybody else. But well, that's the way it looked. And I guess I can use that as my "duh, it's obvious" defense should somebody call me on it. Okay on leaving clues if the werewolves kill one of us toNight. Except, not obvious. Rather, do it using the "build a case" method. Build the case against Lhuna (& Gurthang if he's lupine), and in mild defense of Lal and others we think are innocent. That way, it looks no more like seer talk than anybody else's, until after we're both gone - at which point they'll be all over it like "white on rice". That terrible feeling is how I felt when I saw Eomer's vote against me. I think my heart rate doubled in the space of five seconds. Like, "Game on!" The longer we can hold off, the better. As long as we're both alive, we can play it cool. As soon as there's only one of us left, it's hint time. When one looks to be lynched, give the goods, which will take some pressure off the one remaining. Sound good? [/Night 2 PMs] |
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03-31-2006, 12:33 AM | #805 |
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I'm telling ya.
dancing spawn of ungoliant can read minds.
This game will be transplanted to the Grimoire.
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03-31-2006, 05:39 AM | #806 |
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Well, I did not really post my thoughts about how the Lovers worked out yet.
I do think that in principle, we could make them work. It was a bit unfortunate the Seers dreamt of Lhuna on Night 1 and since Lhuna always manages to attract early suspicion ( ) I doubt they would have made it to the end. Of course, this game was loaded with mathematics but we can mostly ascribe that to the double-lynchings. I do admit that the Lovers have quite a rough time and I don't see a Lover win happening anytime soon... but then, you never know. The Oathsworn may work better, but I prefer keeping to the Lovers as Nilp used them. I am not even sure whether having two male or two female Lovers / Oathsworn would improve the odds for them. Well, I will ponder this some more for my own upcoming game. They definitely made an interesting and exciting addition to the village, though. Wow… Spawn had it all figured out, I see. Absolutely unbelievable. Nilp - I must say, I was both surprised and relieved you did not make me and Eomer Lovers (as I admittedly suspected you might ). We wouldn't have lasted a day, I am sure. |
03-31-2006, 06:31 AM | #807 |
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I'm all for keeping the Lovers as they are. They probably won't win a game, but if they do it will be the most glorious victory of them all.
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04-03-2006, 08:44 PM | #808 |
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Seer to Seer Day Two into Night Three
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So, Gurthang is an ordinary. It's good to know that. Maybe it would be good not to pay too much attention to him if he goes on about you and Eomer. As an innocent he will want an explanation, but ... Depending on Samwise's behaviour, do you think it would be safe to make a case against him? If he's a wolf he might get scared and kill me the next Night (if I'm not already dead by then). It might be a good cover to slightly attack Gurthang, but then again if the one of us who has suspected him gets killed everyone will think that he's guilty and that would require the remaining Seer to step forward. Okay, maybe it wasn't a good idea. I want to know if I'm alive before planning more. LMP: Oh well. So much for sixth sense. But good info nonetheless. Yes, go ahead and mildly attack Samwise. The villagers expect one of your typical posts of analysis; now's the time for it, if we're both still alive. I have to check that yet. Yes, mildly defend Lalaith and Gurthang and mildly question Lhuna now, I think. But not by clues; werewolves are looking for those. Rather, do it in the course of reasoned argument. That's probably the best way. Looks less like a sore thumb that way. Lhuna has given us enough rope with which to get her hanged if we play it smart. "I was afraid Ang was a seer" and now he's dead. Just take away the flowery ww hiding adjectives. I'm beginning to wonder if Lhuna and Lal aren't playing an insidious game. Lh's vote against Lal came long after it wouldn't do any harm. Spawn: Well, we have to be extra smart if we want to get her killed without risking either of us. I noticed that line, too. Does it mean that they thought Anguirel was a Seer because of someone that he suspected was a wolf or because of the way he talked..? I'd like to observe for a while what directions the discussions take today before starting to make cases. Hmm, Samwise slightly questions Lhuna. On second thought, maybe it's not a good idea to attack him now. Lalaith defends Kath and defends herself against Lhuna's vote and my opinion that her vote was based on occupations. Why didn't she say anything of Cailín's vote? Okay, it was a 'random' vote, but why did she choose to answer me when I had just slightly suspected her among many other people? Was Cailín's vote for Lalaith prearranged... Notice how most of those to gather votes are males? I just had a thought: what if all of the wolves are females. If that's the case, I'd say Kath, Cailín and Lalaith are guilty. LMP: I think you're onto something. I just (partially) read #140 by Lal, and I see her asking "what do you think"? She reminds everyone that werewolves can PM day and night. I had forgotten. So a coordination of not only votes but discussion points is well within possibility. I'm reading all of these four women's posts with a very critical eye before I speak up. Mum's the word. Spawn: I'm just making a post... "Mum's the word" like, we don't want to get our hands dirty by mentioning them? Seriously, those ladies creep me out. What do you think Valier is playing at? In her post #185, she italicized letters i, d, o, h, e and p, and bolded letters e, a and s. All I can make out of that is 'I do a sheep'. LMP: By mum's the word, I mean don't hint that you're the seer. Always couch your real knowledge in rational language so that it doesn't appear seerish until after you're dead. At least, that seems the safest way to me. Spawn: Never mind about Valier, though. She changed the boldings; now it says that she doesn't eat sheep or something. Do you think it would be safe to vote for Lhuna because I don't have that much time left now? LMP: With a well reasoned case, which I think Lhuna has provided us with already, I think it's quite reasonable to vote for her. Getting a werewolf lynched without saying we're the seers is the best we can hope for. I'll hold off voting for her for toDay unless she really comes out with something more substantively self-indicting. Good luck! Spawn: Okay. I try to find something that would incriminate her more to go with my vote. Good luck to you, too! Just wanted to say that I think we can trust tar-ancalime and Eomer. They're suspecting the right people, aggressively, without our help. I'm thinking that Lalaith or Cailín should be our choice tonight. LMP: Ack. In 181 tar-ancalime includes me in a list of three possible seers. Grrrr. I felt that Lhuna had done herself enough damage that it was safe to vote for her too. This way, the werewolves have at least to pick between you and me. I'm thinking that I really want to know about either Cailin or Lalaith; Cai seems the more wolvish of the two. My case against Lal has a look of being somewhat trumped up. I don't think Kath is the fourth werewolf. Unless she's being cannily quiet, which is not an impossibility; but the case against her that we have is very rickety. Though Gurthang may be innocent, that doesn't mean he isn't the Lover. What has he said against our primary suspects? Anything? I'm inclined to think that Samwise is likely to be innocent, since he voted for Lhuna. I think Thin, Valier, and Naria are sort of off on a tangent, having to do with being more familiar with each other from WWJ. tar suspecting Eomer looks honest to me. Celuien does too. I don't trust Formy. Spawn: We are thinking very similarly. But first of all: grrrrr! It was obvious that Eonwe was an ordinary. Hmph. Cailín is worrying me the most now. She said that she sympathises with most arguments against Lhuna and then uses a whole paragraph to defend her. Besides, she seems more "wolvishly arrogant" than usual. Cailín said: "Anyone else in favour of lynching another guy tonight? Rid the wolves of the male population and increase our chances of finding the Lover soon? Heheh. I bet the Ordo-Lover will vote for a female player tonight." That was just really weird. Why would the Ord Lover vote for a female? Besides, that whole remark supports the idea that all the wolves are ladies. Also: "I only just realised when reading back that I completely forgot to analyse Gurthang." ~Cailín Are they lovers..? She voted for Eonwe which was yesterDay's safe bandwagon vote. Lalaith and Lhuna voted for him, too. Samwise is probably innocent, but could be a Lover if Gurthang or Form aren't. I don't know what to think of Kath anymore. The fact that wolves can PM all the time makes it easier for them to build situations that look too risky for wolves to do while in fact, they've got it covered (like voting, for example). Lommy's attack on TGWBS is somewhat weird, but I think that's because she's never played with Nilp (as far as I know). I think the Naria and Valier are innocent. When you look at the 'Who's posted' list, it's funny, how Cara has suddenly made it to the top three although she's saying little. I think she's innocent though because of her vote for Lhuna, but then again, it might have been orchestrated by the wolves. TGWBS is much quieter than what I'm used to, but maybe that's because of the timezones. Okay, I'll stop rambling now. I'm up for dreaming of Cailín. Is that okay with you, or do you think there's someone else who'd be a better choice? LMP: Cailin it is, unless you and I both already are pretty darned sure she's a werewolf. If not, let's dream her. Two werewolves to report is pretty good. If we're already pretty sure of her, then who?(we have all Night to work this out...) Spawn: If we both think that Cailín is a wolf, it would indeed be a possibility to pick someone else. Then again, it would be good to be sure of her, too. Cailín has spoken much of other villagers accusing and defending them, so knowing if those words are spoken by a wolf or an innocent is valuable information, I think. I will PM Nilp that we choose Cailín. If we're still both alive next Night, I'll have better access to computer. LMP: I tend to think that we've covered our seerishness as regards Lhuna pretty well with good reasoning in every case; thanks to Lhuna for giving us so many opportunities. If they think one or both of us is the seer, and they're already feeling desperate, they'll try to kill one of us tonight. Desperate, because if they kill us, then the whole village knows one of us was the seer, and suddenly they take a good hard look at the people we've been accusing. They're in a difficult position. If they feel they need to cut their losses (namely Lhuna & maybe Cailin), they'll kill one of us tonight. If they're afraid to cut their losses, hoping we're not the seers (which would be sort of stupid or foolishly hopeful - been known to happen), they'll avoid killing us because killing us would definitely raise suspicion against Lhuna, Cailin, and Lalaith if they think we're not seers. So we're in a good position right now. If one of us gets killed tonight, I feel the other needs to step up and say what we've learned. This is because if one of us is revealed as a seer, it's not that hard to figure out that the other of us is also. So that means that it's sort of approaching seer end game, depending upon how desperate the werewolves feel. What do you think? ************ Spawn never got to respond to this last rather off-the-path stuff from me because she'd been killed. She did do me the honor of telling me this, though: "Shush! We're not supposed to PM anymore; but I know who the werewolves are." Boy, did I feel dumb. |
04-04-2006, 12:58 AM | #809 |
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You know, it's hilarious reading these PMs, LMP... You two took yourselves so seriously!
Well, we took you seriously too, but we hadn't a blooming clue as to who you were! We killed Spawn, not because she looked like a Seer, but because we couldn't find a Seer, and we decided to get rid of the next worst thing: thoughtful analysis. We hoped, of course, that we'd got a seer, but we didn't think so... We expected Spawn to be an innocent, and that we could make it look like Lhuna was framed. Yeah, we were REAL smart, I know... P.S. Kath, when do we get the rest of the PMs?
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Sorry TGWBS, I guess we were hoping you'd get yourself lynched!
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04-06-2006, 03:03 PM | #815 |
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Oh you certainly played a part Farael! But you might not have needed to had Lhuna's traitorous head not been on the block as it was. At least not til later.
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04-07-2006, 02:25 AM | #816 |
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There. All my hatred towards Eomer for everyone to see.
We should have killed him earlier to convince Samwise that we're NOT the Lovers, especially since I think Samwise picked dancing spawn for the Night kill to frame me so much that I'll be lynched! Then again, if we were the Lovers, I would have willingly sacrificed myself just to see him killed! Hehe. Kidding, big bro. I think. |
04-07-2006, 09:13 AM | #817 |
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You could try anything and it wouldn't work, Lhuna. I'm permanently one step ahead.
I do wish we could be allies once, though. Maybe next time. I want to hear about Form and Sam's conversation on the next night.
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Lhuna and I aren't finished yet Eomer! Night 3 PM's here. This was the Night we had a major problem, because Nilp's inbox was full and Samwise repped him but we weren't sure he'd see it. I can't remember quite what we did to let him know now but it may have involved repping Lhuna (who also had a full inbox) and hoping she'd get the kill across to Nilp. Definitely a confusing Night!
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Ah Cailín we love you really! Here's the last bit of PMing the traitor and I were alive for. After this you'll have to rely on Form and Samwise's memories.
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04-08-2006, 09:02 AM | #823 |
Itinerant Songster
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: The Edge of Faerie
Posts: 7,066
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My my my. Fascinating reading.
I think a reevaluation of hero status is in order, and Eomer merits as first half most valuable player, saving second half merits for Gurthang. Reading over all the analysis, I'm struck by - how shall we say? - how the werewolves' analysis and the motivations behind them actually worked toward their demise in the end. LotR-ish, that. I kinda like that. Of course, there was a huge amount of luck involved that could still have turned the game in either direction. Examples: The werewolves left Eomer alive - with good reasons for having done so - one Day too long, such that he was able to do major damage to their cause on his "Day of grace". Counter-example: If the Seers had gone with Spawn's earliest suspicions, we would have had three of the four werewolves dreamt of on the first three Nights! |
04-09-2006, 06:04 AM | #824 |
Shade of Carn Dûm
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: abaft the beam
Posts: 303
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Great game, everyone! I'm sorry about having to leave so suddenly...but I was facing several days without computer access (I'm just now back online), and I pm'ed Nilp to ask how he'd like to handle it. He and I both thought that taking me out during the Night would be better than defaulting my way out of the game by not showing up. It certainly worked well for the Village and I was happy to do my part in absentia; however, I hope my absence didn't skew things too far. I would hate to have been a party to corrupting what was otherwise a fantastic and well-played game.
Now, some other thoughts: This is the first game I've played in in which I haven't been lynched. Innocent or guilty, I always seem to engender the same amount of suspicion. It eventually gets me killed. The wolves always leave me alive because I take attention away from them. However, in this game I was almost universally exonerated right from the beginning. I played exactly the same way I always do, with one exception: I KEPT MY BLOODY TRAP SHUT ON DAY 1!
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04-09-2006, 07:58 PM | #825 | |
Hauntress of the Havens
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: IN it, but not OF it
Posts: 2,538
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Well everyone, so you see, I was supposed to be the traitor but every Night I felt like I was the one being betrayed! Shtoopid timezones. |
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04-10-2006, 11:52 AM | #826 |
Auspicious Wraith
Join Date: May 2002
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 4,859
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Ah yes, sorry Kath. Had some sort of brain freeze there.
Fascinating PMs. I know exactly what you were going through, dear: really wanting to kill someone but fearing the ramifications.
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04-10-2006, 03:06 PM | #827 | |
Everlasting Whiteness
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