Spiders?

[Formendacil]

Originally Posted by Bêthberry

I'm with Lalwendë] on this one, so I have bolded the part of her position which I think is the most significant, although my argument is slightly different.

Formendacil's point is predicated upon the belief or demand that that there is one consistent manner of behaving and a hierarchy of authority where only those on top are the most powerful. (That of course almost reflects the kind of hegemony implied in the unitary vision of divinity.) Yet Ungoliant's being is not unlike the tumultuous foment of Chaos, which waxes and wanes through a variety of forms and stages. This is in fact her strength, I suppose it can be said, that she is multiplicitous rather than uniform.

Well, you don't have to agree with me, of course. I acknowledge that Ungoliant is a rather mysterious being whose origins are shrouded in mystery. As such, short of any great proclamation by the very dead Professor Tolkien, you're welcome to believe what you will as far as I am concerned.

However, to suggest that Ungoliant's purpose is the opposite of Eru's seems to avoid what I brought up- that she is weaker than and fears Eru's creatures. Furthermore, she must be related in some way to those creatures, if she is able to mate with and produce offspring (with the giant spiders).

In my personal opinion, if one looks at Ungoliant as an Ainu in origin (not saying that she is), it is easy to explain her as someone who was enamoured of Melkor's rebellion, and likewise did not sing the chords of Iluvatar- but she struck out on her own, and did not follow the singing of Melkor. A second, more minor, discord than that of Melkor.

Unlike the Ainur who became Balrogs and Sauron, Ungoliant is never a clear follower of Melkor. She is an enemy of Manwe and the other servants of Eru, and her workings are an absence of Light (and an absence, therefore, of good), and is thus a thing of terror to the Children of Eru- but not, it would seem, inherently evil, or opposed to Eru, save insofar as it is not FOR Eru.

I'm kind of just rambling at this point, spewing out not-fully-fleshed ideas and thoughts. Make of them what you will...