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Firefoot · 10-03-2005, 04:09 PM

Come on, there're only three women left. Instead, make it

++QUICKBEAM

Trying to trick us, making him think he's not so slow. But he is, and he doesn't get a whole lot more done than Treebeard ever did when it comes down to it. And he and Grishnakh are always getting into fights, which only hurts the tribe.

The Perky Ent · 10-03-2005, 04:10 PM

Time to get out my trusty bandwaggon! What's this?!? It's broken! What am I going to do?

++Quickbeam

Because he isn't as fast as I am!

Alcarillo · 10-03-2005, 04:15 PM

++Lobelia

And she can't cook.

mormegil · 10-03-2005, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firefoot

Come on, there're only three women left. Instead, make it

I worry that this will be said until the end. No we must get rid of her. She isn't anywhere near the woman that Eowyn and Galadriel are.

Rune Son of Bjarne · 10-03-2005, 04:27 PM

++Lobelia

She is an old woman, with hairy feet !

Formendacil · 10-03-2005, 05:07 PM

Gonna stick with this till I vote for a winning party (Firefoot, consider your votes as counting for two for a while...)

++ Quickbeam

WaynetheGoblin · 10-03-2005, 05:11 PM

++LOBILIA she dosent stand a chanch.

**The Saucepan Man** · 10-03-2005, 05:34 PM

++ Eomer

arcticstorm · 10-03-2005, 05:43 PM

++Quickbeam

Boromir88 · 10-03-2005, 06:00 PM

Firefoot makes sense to me...

++Quickbeam

The Perky Ent · 10-03-2005, 06:06 PM

Wow. When I voted for Quickbeam, it was before firefoot posted his for quickbeam. Coincidence? I think not. I guess great minds do think alike

**The Saucepan Man** · 10-03-2005, 08:38 PM

Any of those who want to see the back of Quickbeam prepared to join me in my quest to rid the island of the chauvenistic and overbearing Eomer? If so, I will be glad to put my (revised) vote at your disposal to-Day ...

arcticstorm · 10-03-2005, 08:48 PM

Sauce, I will join you in getting rid of Eomer tomorrow

Formendacil · 10-03-2005, 08:56 PM

If Quickbeam goes, you can have me as an ally.

Again.

On this game, anyway...

mormegil · 10-03-2005, 09:20 PM

I'm fine with getting rid of Eomer but Quickbeam is not as big a deal to me. So for now I will stick to Lobelia but when it's time for Eomer I will be on you side.

Anguirel · 10-04-2005, 12:54 AM

I will do my best to defend Eomer. Though admittedly my record hasn't been great. Leave "Ride to ruin and the world's ending!" alone. I say we vote for Grishnakh, Gloin or Lobelia after

++QUICKBEAM

bites it. Testimony from:

Lobelia-"Hypocrite smashed my umbrella to pieces. It was probably his distant cousin."

Gimli-"Yeargh! I've a mind to lay my axe to the right tree."

Eomer-"We Riders tell fell tales of the peril in the palm trees..."

Boromir88 · 10-04-2005, 05:44 AM

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Any of those who want to see the back of Quickbeam prepared to join me in my quest to rid the island of the chauvenistic and overbearing Eomer? If so, I will be glad to put my (revised) vote at your disposal to-Day ...~SpM

Let's broker a deal. We get rid of Quickbeam today, and I will join this Crusade against Eomer. Plus I'll give you 50 bucks.

Though seriously, I'm getting tired of having Eomer on the island. He thinks just because when Theoden left and left him as King of Rohan, and with Aragorn gone now he can just run everything and be an imperialistic boss.

Votes:

Lobelia- 7
Quickbeam- 6
Eomer- 1
Pippin- 1

Down with the Ent, I can't believe his name is an oxymoron, who does he think he is?

**The Saucepan Man** · 10-04-2005, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arcticstorm

Sauce, I will join you in getting rid of Eomer tomorrow

Quote:

Originally Posted by Formendacil

If Quickbeam goes, you can have me as an ally.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Let's broker a deal. We get rid of Quickbeam today, and I will join this Crusade against Eomer.

OK s'deal.

-- EOMER
++ QUICKBEAM

the guy who be short · 10-04-2005, 10:16 AM

I too will vote

++Quickbeam

and will also help you get rid of Eomer tomorrow. Just don't expect me to vote for Lobelia - the last Islander with a little life in her, despite her age and hair.

Anguirel · 10-04-2005, 10:24 AM

Bullies. Attacking people is so much easier than defending them. There are so many far more worthless individuals than Eomer, like Gloin...

I need a rival candidate for tomorrow, and Lobelia is looking like a tempting option...or Pippin, Grishnakh or Gloin...where shall we pro-Eomerists rally?

the guy who be short · 10-04-2005, 10:25 AM

If you so wish, I will abandon Eomer for Grishnakh - he is the last vestige of pure evil left on the Island, after all.

Anguirel · 10-04-2005, 10:29 AM

We have a deal. Riders of Rohan! Oaths you have taken! Tomorrow we slay Orcs.

Well, evict Orc.

Folwren · 10-04-2005, 10:36 AM

Anguirel, I say go for Grishnakh tomorrow.

Today, however...perhaps we might avoid Eomer's extintion a bit longer if we keep Quickbeam in the game and make them deal with him first.

++Lobelia.

I wonder why she hasn't gone yet anyway.

-- Folwren

Anguirel · 10-04-2005, 10:40 AM

I see your logic but I charged impetuously against Quickbeam early on and probably won't back out.

However, other Eomer supportors who wouldn't have to compromise their honour are encouraged to vote for Mrs Sackville-Baggins...

Nonnacedak · 10-04-2005, 10:44 AM

++Lobelia

Yes please and thank you.

Anguirel · 10-04-2005, 10:47 AM

History has been made. Honour has been invoked during discussion of (virtual) Reality TV...

Boromir88 · 10-04-2005, 10:52 AM

Grishnakh! Grishnakh! He's the most intellegent player left. How do you send off an intelleget character that without him his tribe would be dead, because they're an oxymoron Ent and Hobbits that only like to eat food.

Lalaith · 10-04-2005, 11:20 AM

Can't we put forward a compromise candidate, ie Pippin, tomorrow?

PS. I will lose respect for a lot of people if Lobelia is evicted tonight.

The 1,000 Reader · 10-04-2005, 11:49 AM

++Lobelia.

Folwren · 10-04-2005, 12:36 PM

You people are so backwards and astonishingly warped it's revolting! Grishnakh? The most intelligent player left? Loss of respect if Lobelia is gotten rid of? What is up with this liking of either wicked people, or just plain greedy/pointless people?

Come on, folks. You've got to be better than all that.

-- Folwren

Boromir88 · 10-04-2005, 12:45 PM

Quote:

You people are so backwards and astonishingly warped it's revolting!

That's what makes it fun? What kind of thread would this be if we all went and got rid of the bad guys and said gushed over the goodie-tooshoers.

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Grishnakh? The most intelligent player left?

All I know is if I had someone I would NOT want to play in a game of chess, it would be Grishnakh. The orc's a genius.

Anguirel · 10-04-2005, 01:03 PM

I'd still say that you're overrating his intelligence. Relative to what we see of Orcs, it's high, but he was outwitted by Pippin, after all, the fool of a Took himself...and wouldn't last a second with Galadriel...

mormegil · 10-04-2005, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anguirel

I'd still say that you're overrating his intelligence. Relative to what we see of Orcs, it's high, but he was outwitted by Pippin, after all, the fool of a Took himself...and wouldn't last a second with Galadriel...

That's only because of his upbringing. Now given the proper set of circumstances and education in his youth, I feel that Grishnakh would have been counted among the wise. But that's the most tragic part of the orc hierarchy, they denied education to all but the most elite upper echilon. It's simply heartbreaking to think of what he could have become had he not been oppressed.

Anguirel · 10-04-2005, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mormegil

But that's the most tragic part of the orc hierarchy, they denied education to all but the most elite upper echilon.

Grishnakh is the most elite upper echelon, a messenger from Lugburz who knows about the Ring, obviously of importance. But he's still tricked by a pygmy with a British public school accent and a nice smile...

Formendacil · 10-04-2005, 02:26 PM

My vote is already cast, but clearly it can be shown that Grishnakh, if not quite the best of the lot here, is certainly a good deal more intelligent, and even more noble, than many of his fellows on the island.

Note that Grishnakh was searching for the Ring, TO TAKE TO HIS MASTER. Grishnakh is only guilty here of service as selfless as that of Samwise Gamgee, the father of all goody-goodies. Really, it's no wonder you heartless misers voted Sam off the island.

Furthermore, take note of the fact that Grishnakh is smart. He is wise enough not to take on Ugluk, wise enough to side his orks with his, in spite of personal conflict, when mutual danger threatens. He is certainly a lot better informed, and has a much better idea what is carried by a halfling.

Furthermore, Grishnakh is clearly highly trusted by Barad-dur if he is being entrusted with such dangerous missions as retrieving the Ring. His loyalty and intelligence are clearly implicated.

And if loyalty and intelligence are what gets people voted off the island, then why on earth is Grima gone?

Anguirel · 10-04-2005, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Formendacil

He is certainly a lot better informed, and has a much better idea what is carried by a halfling.

Does he? His grand ideas ultimately lead to certain hairy footed ones running rings around him...

He has access to information, but is too much of a dolt to recognise that his victims are exploiting his knowledge. No, I'd say even Ugluk has superior brainpower to this chap...

Boromir88 · 10-04-2005, 03:34 PM

Votings closed, expect Lobelia's departure.

Boromir88 · 10-04-2005, 03:38 PM

Alas, the end of anyone with atleast their partial name being Baggins is rid from the island. I guess Glorfindel got tired of getting hit with her broom. I think she liked him.

Dwarves/Elves:
Galadriel
Glorfindel
Gimli
Gloin

Orc/Ents/Hobbits:
Grishnakh
Quickbeam
Merry
Pippin

Men/Wizard:
Eomer
Eowyn
Hama

WaynetheGoblin · 10-04-2005, 03:42 PM

First to vote ++grisnak he is doing nothin around camp he is useless.

Glirdan · 10-04-2005, 03:43 PM

back to Grishnahk. It's time to get rid of hime. The stupid, ugly, kniving, theiving orc!!!

+grishnahk

10-03-2005, 04:09 PM	#801
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Come on, there're only three women left. Instead, make it ++QUICKBEAM Trying to trick us, making him think he's not so slow. But he is, and he doesn't get a whole lot more done than Treebeard ever did when it comes down to it. And he and Grishnakh are always getting into fights, which only hurts the tribe. Last edited by Firefoot; 10-03-2005 at 04:13 PM.

10-03-2005, 04:10 PM	#802
The Perky Ent Maniacal Mage Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Setting sail for Umbar, with Firefoot at my side! Posts: 3,297	Time to get out my trusty bandwaggon! What's this?!? It's broken! What am I going to do? ++Quickbeam Because he isn't as fast as I am! __________________ 'But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.'

10-03-2005, 05:07 PM	#806
Formendacil Dead Serious Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Perched on Thangorodrim's towers. Posts: 3,326	Gonna stick with this till I vote for a winning party (Firefoot, consider your votes as counting for two for a while...) ++ Quickbeam __________________ I prefer history, true or feigned.

10-03-2005, 05:11 PM	#807
WaynetheGoblin Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: far far away Posts: 275	++LOBILIA she dosent stand a chanch. __________________ if your happy im happy if your sad im sad if you jump of a cliff i watch

10-03-2005, 05:34 PM	#808
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	++ Eomer __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

10-03-2005, 04:15 PM	#803
Alcarillo Shadow of the Past Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Minas Mor-go Posts: 1,007	++Lobelia And she can't cook.

10-03-2005, 05:43 PM	#809
arcticstorm Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Johnson Bible College: Knoxville, TN Posts: 464	++Quickbeam

10-03-2005, 06:00 PM	#810
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,518	Firefoot makes sense to me... ++Quickbeam __________________ Fenris Penguin

10-03-2005, 06:06 PM	#811
The Perky Ent Maniacal Mage Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Setting sail for Umbar, with Firefoot at my side! Posts: 3,297	Wow. When I voted for Quickbeam, it was before firefoot posted his for quickbeam. Coincidence? I think not. I guess great minds do think alike __________________ 'But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.'

10-03-2005, 08:38 PM	#812
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Any of those who want to see the back of Quickbeam prepared to join me in my quest to rid the island of the chauvenistic and overbearing Eomer? If so, I will be glad to put my (revised) vote at your disposal to-Day ... __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

10-03-2005, 08:48 PM	#813
arcticstorm Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Johnson Bible College: Knoxville, TN Posts: 464	Sauce, I will join you in getting rid of Eomer tomorrow

10-03-2005, 08:56 PM	#814
Formendacil Dead Serious Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Perched on Thangorodrim's towers. Posts: 3,326	If Quickbeam goes, you can have me as an ally. Again. On this game, anyway... __________________ I prefer history, true or feigned.

10-03-2005, 09:20 PM	#815
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,648	I'm fine with getting rid of Eomer but Quickbeam is not as big a deal to me. So for now I will stick to Lobelia but when it's time for Eomer I will be on you side. __________________ “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

10-04-2005, 12:54 AM	#816
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	I will do my best to defend Eomer. Though admittedly my record hasn't been great. Leave "Ride to ruin and the world's ending!" alone. I say we vote for Grishnakh, Gloin or Lobelia after ++QUICKBEAM bites it. Testimony from: Lobelia-"Hypocrite smashed my umbrella to pieces. It was probably his distant cousin." Gimli-"Yeargh! I've a mind to lay my axe to the right tree." Eomer-"We Riders tell fell tales of the peril in the palm trees..." __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

10-04-2005, 10:16 AM	#819
the guy who be short Shadowed Prince Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Thulcandra Posts: 2,343	I too will vote ++Quickbeam and will also help you get rid of Eomer tomorrow. Just don't expect me to vote for Lobelia - the last Islander with a little life in her, despite her age and hair.

10-04-2005, 10:24 AM	#820
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	Bullies. Attacking people is so much easier than defending them. There are so many far more worthless individuals than Eomer, like Gloin... I need a rival candidate for tomorrow, and Lobelia is looking like a tempting option...or Pippin, Grishnakh or Gloin...where shall we pro-Eomerists rally? __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

10-04-2005, 10:25 AM	#821
the guy who be short Shadowed Prince Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Thulcandra Posts: 2,343	If you so wish, I will abandon Eomer for Grishnakh - he is the last vestige of pure evil left on the Island, after all.

10-04-2005, 10:29 AM	#822
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	We have a deal. Riders of Rohan! Oaths you have taken! Tomorrow we slay Orcs. Well, evict Orc. __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

10-04-2005, 10:36 AM	#823
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	Anguirel, I say go for Grishnakh tomorrow. Today, however...perhaps we might avoid Eomer's extintion a bit longer if we keep Quickbeam in the game and make them deal with him first. ++Lobelia. I wonder why she hasn't gone yet anyway. -- Folwren __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

10-04-2005, 10:40 AM	#824
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	I see your logic but I charged impetuously against Quickbeam early on and probably won't back out. However, other Eomer supportors who wouldn't have to compromise their honour are encouraged to vote for Mrs Sackville-Baggins... __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

10-04-2005, 10:44 AM	#825
Nonnacedak Animated Skeleton Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 44	++Lobelia Yes please and thank you. __________________ NonnacedaKKadecannoN

10-04-2005, 10:47 AM	#826
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	Addendum to last History has been made. Honour has been invoked during discussion of (virtual) Reality TV... __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

10-04-2005, 10:52 AM	#827
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,518	Grishnakh! Grishnakh! He's the most intellegent player left. How do you send off an intelleget character that without him his tribe would be dead, because they're an oxymoron Ent and Hobbits that only like to eat food. __________________ Fenris Penguin

10-04-2005, 11:20 AM	#828
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	Can't we put forward a compromise candidate, ie Pippin, tomorrow? PS. I will lose respect for a lot of people if Lobelia is evicted tonight. __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

10-04-2005, 11:49 AM	#829
The 1,000 Reader Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: I don't know. Eastern ME doesn't have maps. Posts: 527	++Lobelia. Last edited by The 1,000 Reader; 10-04-2005 at 12:11 PM.

10-04-2005, 12:36 PM	#830
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	You people are so backwards and astonishingly warped it's revolting! Grishnakh? The most intelligent player left? Loss of respect if Lobelia is gotten rid of? What is up with this liking of either wicked people, or just plain greedy/pointless people? Come on, folks. You've got to be better than all that. -- Folwren __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

10-04-2005, 01:03 PM	#832
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	I'd still say that you're overrating his intelligence. Relative to what we see of Orcs, it's high, but he was outwitted by Pippin, after all, the fool of a Took himself...and wouldn't last a second with Galadriel... __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

10-04-2005, 02:26 PM	#835
Formendacil Dead Serious Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Perched on Thangorodrim's towers. Posts: 3,326	My vote is already cast, but clearly it can be shown that Grishnakh, if not quite the best of the lot here, is certainly a good deal more intelligent, and even more noble, than many of his fellows on the island. Note that Grishnakh was searching for the Ring, TO TAKE TO HIS MASTER. Grishnakh is only guilty here of service as selfless as that of Samwise Gamgee, the father of all goody-goodies. Really, it's no wonder you heartless misers voted Sam off the island. Furthermore, take note of the fact that Grishnakh is smart. He is wise enough not to take on Ugluk, wise enough to side his orks with his, in spite of personal conflict, when mutual danger threatens. He is certainly a lot better informed, and has a much better idea what is carried by a halfling. Furthermore, Grishnakh is clearly highly trusted by Barad-dur if he is being entrusted with such dangerous missions as retrieving the Ring. His loyalty and intelligence are clearly implicated. And if loyalty and intelligence are what gets people voted off the island, then why on earth is Grima gone? __________________ I prefer history, true or feigned.

10-04-2005, 03:34 PM	#837
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,518	Votings closed, expect Lobelia's departure. __________________ Fenris Penguin

10-04-2005, 03:38 PM	#838
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,518	Alas, the end of anyone with atleast their partial name being Baggins is rid from the island. I guess Glorfindel got tired of getting hit with her broom. I think she liked him. Dwarves/Elves: Galadriel Glorfindel Gimli Gloin Orc/Ents/Hobbits: Grishnakh Quickbeam Merry Pippin Men/Wizard: Eomer Eowyn Hama __________________ Fenris Penguin

10-04-2005, 03:42 PM	#839
WaynetheGoblin Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: far far away Posts: 275	First to vote ++grisnak he is doing nothin around camp he is useless. __________________ if your happy im happy if your sad im sad if you jump of a cliff i watch

10-04-2005, 03:43 PM	#840
Glirdan Energetic Essence Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Where Lark Nor Eagle Ever Flew Posts: 3,285	back to Grishnahk. It's time to get rid of hime. The stupid, ugly, kniving, theiving orc!!! +grishnahk __________________ *I'm going to buy you a kitty, I'm going to let you fall in love with the kitty, and one cold, winter night, I'm going to steal into your house and punch you in the face!* Fenris Wolf