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I can see Hobbits playing cricket too, since it fits in with the idyllic rural feel of the Shire (village greens and all that) and the Hobbit talents of "aiming and throwing", although I seem to recall (perhaps from his Letters) that Tolkien himself was not overly fond of the game. Quote:
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07-07-2004, 07:15 AM | #42 |
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"Shooting at the wind" should be "shooting at the wand", the wand being a narrow, upright target in archery. |
07-07-2004, 07:48 AM | #43 |
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I can't place the quote now, but either in the Hobbit or the LotR there is a reference to young hobbits throwing stones at small animals, apparently as a hobby....
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07-07-2004, 07:58 AM | #44 |
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The quote is something like "small animals learned to get out of the way quickly if a hobbit bent down to pick up a stone".
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07-07-2004, 08:35 AM | #46 |
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Thank you for those quotes Ardamir.
I've also found this, from the Hobbit: "As a boy he (Bilbo) used to practice throwing stones at things, until rabbits and squirrels, and even birds, got out of his way as quick as lightning if they saw him stoop." I remember being shocked by that when I first read the Hobbit as a little girl. I had been led to believe that only very naughty, nasty boys threw stones at animals.... Oh, and after this quote there is the passage Elianna mentioned about quoits, bowls and so on. All very nice traditional English pub-and-village green games. |
07-09-2004, 11:47 AM | #47 |
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Hmmm I have no doubt though that if the hobbits developed cricket, in latter years when theyears of peace had let the population expand enough for them to develop colonies in areas where the climate allowed them to play more cricket....teams from the now independent hobbit communities would come back and thrash them on a regular basis..... no evidence for that ..just a hunch....
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10-29-2004, 09:52 AM | #48 |
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Third time pays for all ..
HI-ing again....
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11-04-2004, 08:24 PM | #49 |
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More evidence that wrestling was a sport in Middle-Earth: Tulkas the Valar was a wrestler. Plus he was the most fun-loving Valar of them all which leads me to believe that he probably wrestled for fun and not just in war.
I always pictured the hobbits playing rugby and cricket and not just because they seem British. On second thought rugby might be a bit too violent for hobbits, but cricket definitely works.
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02-20-2005, 12:10 PM | #50 |
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Lets HI one more time...
There is a reason for this...( I cannot link)..... cf "where is everyone from"
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02-21-2005, 12:51 AM | #51 |
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I believe hobbits do have some form of golf. I keep thinking I've read somewhere about Bullroarer Took whacking some goblin's head off with a stick, and the head rolled into a hole, thus creating the sport. Mind you, I can't seem to recall exactly where, though I'm quite sure it is in Lord of the Rings somewhere--I've already checked Hobbit. Direct quote from the passage would be nice.
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Sport in Middle Earth
Did they have any sport in Middle Earth except hunting? I can't imagine the 'civilised' Gondorians or Elves indulge in bear-baiting or other typical Medieval sports, maybe the Rohirrim or Orcs, I'd love to see Warg baiting
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02-25-2007, 06:30 AM | #54 |
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The Hobbit mentions football and golf . I don't know how seriously we can take that.
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02-25-2007, 06:40 AM | #55 |
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well mabye arrow bow competitions? :P hehe I don't know :P
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Archery, sword-fighting (maybe fencing), golf, and hockey. Phil Kessel looks like a hobbit, right?
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02-25-2007, 01:55 PM | #57 |
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Perhaps they used to play that old type of football in Minas Tirith when you had to get the ball by any means possible to the other side of the town. I suppose people living in the upper circles would have a distinct advantage at that game.
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02-25-2007, 02:19 PM | #58 |
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In the first chapter of LotR, there is a quick mention of games being held at Bilbo's party; in Flies and Spiders, the Hobbit, it is mentioned that some of the recreational activities Bilbo had indulged in were "quoits, dart-throwing, shooting at the wand, bowls, ninepins and other quiet games of the aiming and throwing sort".
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02-25-2007, 02:48 PM | #59 |
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Makes a lot of sense since Hobbits were known as good archers and could aim pretty well as shown by Bilbo when throwing with stones at the spiders.
I think that the type of sport would depend on the region. Hobbits would probably have sports similar to our own considering what is said in the books. Rohan would definitely have horseriding. Elves might have archery contests, just as other areas. Swordfighting wouzld probably be quite widespread throughout Middle-earth. Orcs would perhaps like gladiatorial type of games where the winner takes all. Anyway, except quiet and peaceful areas like Hobbiton, sport in other areas would probably often have much in common with war. Sport might be used a way to stay fit and practice, so that you would be ready in case of a real battle. It could also create a competitive spirit between the people in the area and each would try to become the best, thus having a positive outcome.
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I remembered this thread from when I was a very new Downer - it is about the first I posted on
[Moderator's edit: Thanks for the link! I merged both threads, as they have the same title and subject. *Esty]
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