Show me fear! (the emotion game) - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Evisse the Blue · 06-06-2004, 06:19 AM

The idea is simple: You have to find a situation where a character feels/displays a certain emotion / disposition. The emotion doesn't have to be explicitly mentioned (ex: Gandalf was angry at Pippin), it can also be implied by the context: (ex: by yelling 'Fool of a Took', that would mean he's angry). Alright - that clarification was perhaps obvious, most feelings and emotions are inferred from contexts, not spelled out.
Another obvious rule is that there are many possible replies to each request, so whoever gets to find a situation first and get it confirmed by the one who requested it, can post a new one.

Example: Find me a situation when someone feels overwhelming pain.
Answer: Hurin, being made to watch what happens to his family by Morgoth.
Another possible answer: Feanor, discovering his Silmarils were taken.
Or you can interpret pain as physical pain and answer: Morgoth, when he was burnt by the Silmarils.

NEW RULE: You also have to quote or at least state specifically that part of the narration that illustrates the answer, in order to prove your point.

Any questions?
Do I get greenlight for this game, Sauce?

The Perky Ent · 06-06-2004, 03:32 PM

Sounds cool. You have to have a creative mind in order to make this easier. Anyways, Evisse, I'm not aware you need the Saucepan Man's approval. I think, you just go, and if it doesn't work, he closes it. But then, you have been in the Quiz Room longer than I have. Your call.

Evisse the Blue · 06-07-2004, 01:51 AM

You're right, Perky, guess I was just trying to be on the 'extra' safe side

So here's the first:

Find me an instance of honest remorse!

piosenniel · 06-07-2004, 02:01 AM

Boromir to Frodo after he had chased after the Hobbit and cursed him:

He rose and passed his hand over his eyes, dashing away the tears. 'What have I said?' he cried. 'What have I done? Frodo, Frodo!' he called. 'Come back! A madness took me, but it has passed. Come back!'

-- 'Fellowship of the Ring'; "The Breaking of the Fellowship"

Evisse the Blue · 06-07-2004, 02:07 AM

Yes, and exactly the one I had in mind. Your go!

piosenniel · 06-07-2004, 02:17 AM

Show me a moment of gladness brought on by mercy and justice.

Fingolfin II · 06-07-2004, 02:37 AM

Beregond, when Aragorn made him captain of the Guard of Faramir-

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And Beregond, perceiving the mercy and justice of the King, was glad, and kneeling kissed his hand, and departed in joy and content.

piosenniel · 06-07-2004, 03:00 AM

Well done! My very choice.

Carry on, Fingolfin II!

~*~ Pio

Fingolfin II · 06-07-2004, 03:33 AM

Cheers Pio.

Can anyone find me a moment where someone was consumed by both wrath and fear?

piosenniel · 06-07-2004, 04:07 AM

I really should go to bed - it is 3 a.m. here . . .

But I can't resist!

Quote:

Then the Messenger of Mordor laughed no more, His face was twisted with amazement and anger to the likeness of some wild beast that, as it crouches on its prey, is smitten on the muzzle with a stinging rod. Rage filled him and his mouth slavered, and shapeless sounds of fury came strangling from his throat. But he looked at the fell faces of the Captains and their deadly eyes, and fear overcame his wrath . . .

And pardon if I quote overlong - but I love the way Tolkien brings the images to life with his choice of words and phrasings.

Good night!

~*~ Pio

Fingolfin II · 06-07-2004, 05:13 AM

Good example. I was thinking of Sauron when he finds out about his folly, but that'll do just fine.

piosenniel · 06-07-2004, 11:40 AM

How about a moment of despair followed by resolve . . .

Firefoot · 06-07-2004, 12:00 PM

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But even as hope died in Sam, or seemed to die, it was turned to a new strenght. Sam's plain hobbit-face grew stern, almost grim, as the will hardened in him, and he felt through all his limbs a thrill, as if he was turning into some creature of stone and steel that neigher despair nor weariness nor endless barren miles could subdue.

One of my favorite passages is this one, when Sam is trying to judge the distance to Mt. Doom and realizes how impossible it will be... and then becomes determined to get there.

piosenniel · 06-07-2004, 12:06 PM

Lovely example!

Carry on, Firefoot!

~*~ Pio

Firefoot · 06-07-2004, 12:29 PM

Thanks.

A moment of triumph followed by great fear.

Ophelia · 06-07-2004, 12:48 PM

I think i found the situation in The Hobbit (sorry , but that was the nearest book I could find around) :
"The Dwarfs were still passing around the grale hand to hand , and still adoring the recovery of their treasure (I take that as a triumph of the recovery of the grale) , when sudenly from deep inside the mountain came a sound as if a sleeping vulcano had in mind to restart its destructive work . [..] Then the Dwarves forgot their joy and pride [..] and almost died from fright ."

Hope it works .

-=Ophelia=-

Gil-Galad · 06-07-2004, 03:25 PM

after the fellowship defeated the marauding orcs in moria, but then faced the balrog

Firefoot · 06-07-2004, 05:55 PM

Go ahead, Ophelia. I was originally thinking of Sauron at the Downfall of Númenor, but that works well too.

Ophelia · 06-08-2004, 11:27 AM

Sorry for the disapointment , but the book was the nearest , as I said .

Mistrust , that has poved to be unreasonable .

Good luck !

Ophelia--------->

Mithalwen · 06-08-2004, 11:58 AM

Celeborn on receiving the Fellowship at Caras Galadhon?
?

Firefoot · 06-08-2004, 01:19 PM

How about when Túrin's band captured and tied Beleg?

Ophelia · 06-08-2004, 02:05 PM

I might be mistaking greatfuly but after reading through the chapter I found no signs of mistrust that would have been in Celeborn`s mind . All I found was a thought of "But had I known that the Dwarves had stirred up this evil in Moria again , I would have forbidden you to pass the northern borders , you and all that went with you ." But it displays only anger at the Dwarves for awaking the evil under ground , that would made him not to let them enter . If you meant any other thing from the part , I beg for your forgivness but the information is very poor .
This is when I come up with a sugestion : when posting the situation , you could post aswell the part you exactly meant , for it is hard for the question-giver to search all through the books to find weather it`s true or not and it would make the answer-givers to think more and do more research making the quizz more interesting . How about that Evisse ?

I have no choice than to take Firefoot`s answer as the right onw for the situation is more known . No ofence taken !

Ophelia+---

Evisse the Blue · 06-09-2004, 01:21 AM

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This is when I come up with a sugestion : when posting the situation , you could post aswell the part you exactly meant , for it is hard for the question-giver to search all through the books to find weather it`s true or not and it would make the answer-givers to think more and do more research making the quizz more interesting .

That's a very good idea, Ophelia. I'll go edit the first post to include this.

As for Mithalwen's answer - the thing that came to mind was when Gimli was 'singled out' to be blindfolded - that certainly was a sign of mistrust, that later proved more than unfounded. But you're right, she should have been more specific.

Firefoot · 06-09-2004, 05:44 AM

Discomfort followed by delight.

Mithalwen · 06-09-2004, 12:34 PM

Actually it was the doubt of Celeborn I was thinking of but I didn't have the Fellowship on me ( I am resorting to cyber cafes at the moment for reasons too tedious to go into) when he he learns of the balrog .... and then Galadriel tells him not and he says "I did not know your plight was so evil" but I should have been more specific.....and on reflection... it wasn't as close as Firefoot's since Celeborn was more mistrusting his own decision rather than another person - so don't have any concerns on my account

BTW I am a "she" but I am not going to freak if I am called a he... I have an androgynous name in real life so I am quite used to it......

Evisse the Blue · 06-09-2004, 12:50 PM

Well, let's see, discomfort followed by delight... I'm thinking of Sam being caught by Gandalf eavesdropping on his conversation with Frodo in 'Shadow of the Past'. First he feels discomfort at the thought of being turned into something unnatural, then he feels delight at his going to see the Elves.

Though perhaps, in the beginning he feels more terrfied than mere discomfort... So if anyone has a better one...

Ophelia · 06-09-2004, 01:15 PM

I know this might be a very bad example , but I will take my chances .
When Galadriel was eyeing each of the Fellowship , at the chapter "Mirror of Galadriel" , Sam felt discomfort when he was eyed , but then came the delight part - the delightful rest and refuge at Lorien .

Ophelia

Firefoot · 06-10-2004, 05:18 AM

Go ahead, Evisse.

Evisse the Blue · 06-10-2004, 06:13 AM

Show me love followed by estangement.

Mithalwen · 06-10-2004, 11:27 AM

This may be on too long a time frame but how about the relationship of Aldarion and Erendis? Assuming they ever really loved each other... they were certainly estranged........

Son of Númenor · 06-10-2004, 11:32 AM

Thingol and Turambar.

Evisse the Blue · 06-11-2004, 02:24 AM

I'll go with Mithalwen's answer.

Mithalwen · 06-11-2004, 11:37 AM

but eek I have to think of something .... how about grief and indignation followed by hope..?

Fingolfin II · 06-11-2004, 07:13 PM

Sam when he realises that Frodo is not dead after all? He is grieved at what he thinks is Frodo's death and angry at himself for not realising that he is still alive, then he has hope that he might be able to save him?

Mithalwen · 06-13-2004, 10:12 AM

I feel a bit mean because I am going to say no to this.... may be wrong but I don't interpret indignation to include anger with self....on the occasion I am thinking of the displeasure is directed at others..... of course it doesn't have to be the situation I am thinking of..there may be others.... but .. this one doesn't quite fit

May be I am being too sneaky?

You were very much on the right lines in other respects.....

Mithalwen · 06-19-2004, 10:52 AM

Hmm I thinkI have been too obscure here... so I will change the question if I may...
In case anyone cares I was thinking of Eomer when thinking Eowyn dead he is annoyed that her body is not lying in state with Theoden, then discovers she is alive..

OK new emotion ......

Awestruck in the presence of beauty....

Fingolfin II · 06-19-2004, 08:08 PM

This is an easier one- Sam when he saw Galadriel.

Mithalwen · 06-20-2004, 01:20 PM

Yep...I was thinking of Thingol and Melian but that will do nicely...various options were possible... Beren, Aragorn, Gimli when he saw Aglarond...

Fingolfin II · 06-21-2004, 12:55 AM

Cheers.

How about an example of happiness for a very long time, followed by grief?

NightKnight · 06-21-2004, 03:26 AM

Arwen, being married to Aragorn for 120 years and then he died.

06-06-2004, 06:19 AM	#1
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Show me fear! (the emotion game) The idea is simple: You have to find a situation where a character feels/displays a certain emotion / disposition. The emotion doesn't have to be explicitly mentioned (ex: Gandalf was angry at Pippin), it can also be implied by the context: (ex: by yelling 'Fool of a Took', that would mean he's angry). Alright - that clarification was perhaps obvious, most feelings and emotions are inferred from contexts, not spelled out. Another obvious rule is that there are many possible replies to each request, so whoever gets to find a situation first and get it confirmed by the one who requested it, can post a new one. Example: Find me a situation when someone feels overwhelming pain. Answer: Hurin, being made to watch what happens to his family by Morgoth. Another possible answer: Feanor, discovering his Silmarils were taken. Or you can interpret pain as physical pain and answer: Morgoth, when he was burnt by the Silmarils. NEW RULE: You also have to quote or at least state specifically that part of the narration that illustrates the answer, in order to prove your point. Any questions? Do I get greenlight for this game, Sauce? __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass. Last edited by Evisse the Blue; 06-09-2004 at 01:31 AM.

06-06-2004, 03:32 PM	#2
The Perky Ent Maniacal Mage Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Setting sail for Umbar, with Firefoot at my side! Posts: 3,297	Sounds cool. You have to have a creative mind in order to make this easier. Anyways, Evisse, I'm not aware you need the Saucepan Man's approval. I think, you just go, and if it doesn't work, he closes it. But then, you have been in the Quiz Room longer than I have. Your call. __________________ 'But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.'

06-07-2004, 01:51 AM	#3
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Let's get the show on the road You're right, Perky, guess I was just trying to be on the 'extra' safe side So here's the first: Find me an instance of honest remorse! __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

06-07-2004, 02:01 AM	#4
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Boromir to Frodo after he had chased after the Hobbit and cursed him: He rose and passed his hand over his eyes, dashing away the tears. 'What have I said?' he cried. 'What have I done? Frodo, Frodo!' he called. 'Come back! A madness took me, but it has passed. Come back!' -- 'Fellowship of the Ring'; "The Breaking of the Fellowship" __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

06-07-2004, 02:07 AM	#5
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Nice to see you around here, pio! :) Yes, and exactly the one I had in mind. Your go! __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

06-07-2004, 02:17 AM	#6
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Show me a moment of gladness brought on by mercy and justice. __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

06-07-2004, 03:00 AM	#8
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Well done! My very choice. Carry on, Fingolfin II! ~*~ Pio __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

06-07-2004, 03:33 AM	#9
Fingolfin II Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where you want me to be Posts: 1,036	Cheers Pio. Can anyone find me a moment where someone was consumed by both wrath and fear? __________________ Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.

06-07-2004, 05:13 AM	#11
Fingolfin II Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where you want me to be Posts: 1,036	Good example. I was thinking of Sauron when he finds out about his folly, but that'll do just fine. __________________ Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.

06-07-2004, 11:40 AM	#12
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	How about a moment of despair followed by resolve . . . __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

06-07-2004, 12:06 PM	#14
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Lovely example! Carry on, Firefoot! ~*~ Pio __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

06-07-2004, 12:29 PM	#15
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Thanks. A moment of triumph followed by great fear.

06-07-2004, 12:48 PM	#16
Ophelia Wight Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: somewhere between the sacred , silence and sweet . Posts: 169	I think i found the situation in The Hobbit (sorry , but that was the nearest book I could find around) : "The Dwarfs were still passing around the grale hand to hand , and still adoring the recovery of their treasure (I take that as a triumph of the recovery of the grale) , when sudenly from deep inside the mountain came a sound as if a sleeping vulcano had in mind to restart its destructive work . [..] Then the Dwarves forgot their joy and pride [..] and almost died from fright ." Hope it works . -=Ophelia=- __________________ I didn't lose my mind . It was mine to give away .

06-07-2004, 03:25 PM	#17
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	after the fellowship defeated the marauding orcs in moria, but then faced the balrog __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

06-07-2004, 05:55 PM	#18
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Go ahead, Ophelia. I was originally thinking of Sauron at the Downfall of Númenor, but that works well too.

06-08-2004, 11:27 AM	#19
Ophelia Wight Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: somewhere between the sacred , silence and sweet . Posts: 169	Sorry for the disapointment , but the book was the nearest , as I said . Mistrust , that has poved to be unreasonable . Good luck ! Ophelia---------> __________________ I didn't lose my mind . It was mine to give away .

06-08-2004, 11:58 AM	#20
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,458	Celeborn on receiving the Fellowship at Caras Galadhon? ?

06-08-2004, 01:19 PM	#21
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	How about when Túrin's band captured and tied Beleg?

06-08-2004, 02:05 PM	#22
Ophelia Wight Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: somewhere between the sacred , silence and sweet . Posts: 169	I might be mistaking greatfuly but after reading through the chapter I found no signs of mistrust that would have been in Celeborn`s mind . All I found was a thought of "But had I known that the Dwarves had stirred up this evil in Moria again , I would have forbidden you to pass the northern borders , you and all that went with you ." But it displays only anger at the Dwarves for awaking the evil under ground , that would made him not to let them enter . If you meant any other thing from the part , I beg for your forgivness but the information is very poor . This is when I come up with a sugestion : when posting the situation , you could post aswell the part you exactly meant , for it is hard for the question-giver to search all through the books to find weather it`s true or not and it would make the answer-givers to think more and do more research making the quizz more interesting . How about that Evisse ? I have no choice than to take Firefoot`s answer as the right onw for the situation is more known . No ofence taken ! Ophelia+--- __________________ I didn't lose my mind . It was mine to give away .

06-09-2004, 05:44 AM	#24
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Discomfort followed by delight.

06-09-2004, 12:34 PM	#25
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,458	Actually it was the doubt of Celeborn I was thinking of but I didn't have the Fellowship on me ( I am resorting to cyber cafes at the moment for reasons too tedious to go into) when he he learns of the balrog .... and then Galadriel tells him not and he says "I did not know your plight was so evil" but I should have been more specific.....and on reflection... it wasn't as close as Firefoot's since Celeborn was more mistrusting his own decision rather than another person - so don't have any concerns on my account BTW I am a "she" but I am not going to freak if I am called a he... I have an androgynous name in real life so I am quite used to it......

06-09-2004, 12:50 PM	#26
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Well, let's see, discomfort followed by delight... I'm thinking of Sam being caught by Gandalf eavesdropping on his conversation with Frodo in 'Shadow of the Past'. First he feels discomfort at the thought of being turned into something unnatural, then he feels delight at his going to see the Elves. Though perhaps, in the beginning he feels more terrfied than mere discomfort... So if anyone has a better one... __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

06-09-2004, 01:15 PM	#27
Ophelia Wight Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: somewhere between the sacred , silence and sweet . Posts: 169	I know this might be a very bad example , but I will take my chances . When Galadriel was eyeing each of the Fellowship , at the chapter "Mirror of Galadriel" , Sam felt discomfort when he was eyed , but then came the delight part - the delightful rest and refuge at Lorien . Ophelia __________________ I didn't lose my mind . It was mine to give away .

06-10-2004, 05:18 AM	#28
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Go ahead, Evisse.

06-10-2004, 06:13 AM	#29
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Show me love followed by estangement. __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

06-10-2004, 11:27 AM	#30
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,458	This may be on too long a time frame but how about the relationship of Aldarion and Erendis? Assuming they ever really loved each other... they were certainly estranged........

06-10-2004, 11:32 AM	#31
Son of Númenor A Shade of Westernesse Join Date: May 2004 Location: The last wave over Atalantë Posts: 515	Thingol and Turambar. __________________ "This miserable drizzling afternoon I have been reading up old military lecture-notes again:- and getting bored with them after an hour and a half. I have done some touches to my nonsense fairy language - to its improvement."

06-11-2004, 02:24 AM	#32
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	I'll go with Mithalwen's answer. __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

06-11-2004, 11:37 AM	#33
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,458	but eek I have to think of something .... how about grief and indignation followed by hope..?

06-11-2004, 07:13 PM	#34
Fingolfin II Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where you want me to be Posts: 1,036	Sam when he realises that Frodo is not dead after all? He is grieved at what he thinks is Frodo's death and angry at himself for not realising that he is still alive, then he has hope that he might be able to save him? __________________ Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.

06-13-2004, 10:12 AM	#35
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,458	I feel a bit mean because I am going to say no to this.... may be wrong but I don't interpret indignation to include anger with self....on the occasion I am thinking of the displeasure is directed at others..... of course it doesn't have to be the situation I am thinking of..there may be others.... but .. this one doesn't quite fit May be I am being too sneaky? You were very much on the right lines in other respects.....

06-19-2004, 10:52 AM	#36
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,458	Hmm I thinkI have been too obscure here... so I will change the question if I may... In case anyone cares I was thinking of Eomer when thinking Eowyn dead he is annoyed that her body is not lying in state with Theoden, then discovers she is alive.. OK new emotion ...... Awestruck in the presence of beauty....

06-19-2004, 08:08 PM	#37
Fingolfin II Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where you want me to be Posts: 1,036	This is an easier one- Sam when he saw Galadriel. __________________ Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.

06-20-2004, 01:20 PM	#38
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,458	Yep...I was thinking of Thingol and Melian but that will do nicely...various options were possible... Beren, Aragorn, Gimli when he saw Aglarond...

06-21-2004, 12:55 AM	#39
Fingolfin II Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Where you want me to be Posts: 1,036	Cheers. How about an example of happiness for a very long time, followed by grief? __________________ Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.