Sex in RotK?! The Outrage!!!! - Page 3 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Cibbwin · 09-14-2003, 10:22 PM

Well, you need to understand, Rolling Stone likes to joke around alot. "Sexed up" probably just means more kissing.

Dininziliel · 09-15-2003, 12:27 PM

Thank you, King, for the reply re Arwen v. Eowyn and the big do-in on the Pelennor with Witch King. As far as what Jackson is capable of--after TT, anything goes. I have to keep telling myself that the movies are based on LotR. I almost wish ME was not so captivating on and real to me on screen--that way I could more easily let go of the disappointment in his having changed the plot for pizzazz instead of having so little faith in audience ability to get zazzed on T's plot. It's just so painful to get so close yet fall so far. I know certain things have to be changed, but and ... oh, I'm about to do the Faramir rant. I'll just end by saying I watched the DVD of TT and was struck by how many things did not really add up. We're just so zotzed by spectacle that story sense becomes secondary.Oh dear. I think ... I do believe ... yes, it must be true--I have become a fanatic.And proud of it!

Arwen Eruantale · 09-15-2003, 12:56 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>yes, it must be true--I have become a fanatic.And proud of it!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Hear hear! You have no idea... Welcome to the Downs, dininziliel! Enjoy a long and glorious stay!

09-15-2003, 09:07 PM

_________________________________________ I am sorry, but Peter Jackson did not direct that movie. He just endorsed it in the advertising. It is actually directed by a man by the name of Eli Roth __________________________________________ oh....thanks for telling me....hmm...yeh well when i heard his name in the trailer i thought he directed it..and it didnt seem like somethin he would be interested in ....

HCIsland · 09-16-2003, 07:33 AM

Just a question.Why has a throw away comment in a throw away magazine generated 84 replies (85 now - Arrgh! ) on a board that, I think, typically has very good discussions?H.C.[ September 16, 2003: Message edited by: HCIsland ]

The Only Real Estel · 09-16-2003, 10:52 AM

lol, HC. I'd guess because it raised an interesing topic of conversation, since most people are just posting as if the scene was actually in the movie. It's interesting to discuss peoples opinions/etc. on a sex scene in RotK (if there was one). That's my best guess (& now there's 86 ).

Knight of Gondor · 09-16-2003, 08:08 PM

Well, H.C., if we've OFFENDED you, we can stop...

Lush · 09-17-2003, 08:48 AM

Whether in a negative or positive fashion, a great deal of people do like to talk about any subject remotely linked to sex.

Evisse the Blue · 09-17-2003, 02:47 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Whether in a negative or positive fashion, a great deal of people do like to talk about any subject remotely linked to sex. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Too true, Lush! And Tolkienites, however unique they may be from other points of view, are no exception to this general rule.

**The Saucepan Man** · 09-17-2003, 07:25 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Whether in a negative or positive fashion, a great deal of people do like to talk about any subject remotely linked to sex. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Indeed, Lush. The mere mention of the word (especially in conjunction with the word "Outrage") is always bound to draw a crowd. It's the bread and butter of tabloid newspapers and "gossipy" magazines.Next target - 4 pages.

Ainaserkewen · 09-17-2003, 08:37 PM

You are all so right. Just the use of the word has brought many people into this thread in the first place. Howere, IMHO, I don't think there will be any such romantic issues in the final installment. The romantic scenes between Arwen and Aragorn probably won't get any hotter, but they are nessesary, I'm not suprised that there were so many in TTT.

Knight of Gondor · 09-17-2003, 08:48 PM

I don't relish the subject at all! I just don't want to see the reputation of my favorite movies tarnashed by fish-wrapper rumors.Perhaps it IS time to talk about something else, now that rumors are quenched...

Lush · 09-18-2003, 11:13 AM

One doesn't have to relish a subject to have a response to it, I don't think. Anyway, the main purpose of Rolling Stone is no longer aimed at reflecting on pop culture. It is aimed at subverting and sensationalizing anything that can be subverted and sensationalized.While I don't think that in this particular case the editor's desire was to tarnish a movie's image in the eye of the public, they were definitely acting according to the formula of how such magazines are sold. We have better writers at the university's weekly entertainment magazine, and none of us even get paid. Says a lot about Rolling Stone doesn't it?Anyway, as a certain prolific BD-er said the other day, "Rolling Stone, always starting avalanches..."[ September 18, 2003: Message edited by: Lush ]

The Only Real Estel · 09-19-2003, 06:32 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Hey, let's see if we can make three pages of outrage about something that's never going to happen.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Hey, now that we've got under lock & key, Saucepan Man, why not shoot for 4? Seriously though, I don't think there's a problem about continuing to discuss it if no one else does...

09-21-2003, 09:38 PM

I was wondering if anyone here has seen this picture yet. It's at <A HREF="http://www.spydirweb.com/lotr.htm" TARGET=_blank>http://www.spydirweb.com/lotr.htm</A> go to pictures under links on the left side of the page and click on Frodo

Beren87 · 09-21-2003, 09:58 PM

Now *that's* terribly frightening.And I just have one thing to say. For all of those people who had random reponses amounting to "that stuff doesn't appeal to me at ALL!!".You are indeed in the minority of the population, and more significantly, probably lieing. Realise that most people like sex, it happens to be the mechanism for continueing our species.

Diamond18 · 09-22-2003, 12:18 AM

Gee, "mechanism": make it sound real attractive there, Beren. What would Tolkien say? Describing an age old act of pretty much all life forms with a word coined in 1662 relating to *bumbumbum* machinery!. The outrage! I'm so outraged I... I... oh, cookies.....Oh, and I saw <A HREF="http://www.spydirweb.com/1234.jpg" TARGET=_blank>that picture</A> two years ago in Premiere magazine. (If you use that link you don't have to scroll and click around to find the pic, it'll be there, magically.)Two more posts, HC, and we can start singing "99 posts of outrage on the board". (Disclaimer: This is a joke, I am in no way, shape, form, angle, or equation condoning such a mindless post).

Evisse the Blue · 09-22-2003, 05:59 AM

Diamond's right - that pic's of Elijah, not Frodo, and it is not from the supposedly nude scene, if any of you were wondering - or hoping.

hobbit punk · 09-24-2003, 02:20 PM

Hmmm maybe this will help get it to a fourth page... Seriously though, if there is a "sex scene" in ROTK, it will probably be something along the lines of Aragorn and Arwen kissing and embracing sometime after their wedding and then having the doors sort of swing shut on them. The audience is left to use their imagination and there is little slandering of Tolkien. That's it. I doubt and hope their isn't.

Aduyuldaiel-MirkwoodPrincess · 09-24-2003, 09:08 PM

how SICKNING is THAT?! dude...i think that PJ would have better judgment than THAT... or atleast i HOPE so but i guess well jus have to see...

Jack · 09-25-2003, 01:13 PM

I don't read the rolling stone magizine but I will fume with you and anyone who wishes to fume to! (not like I have anything against Aragon/Arwen in fact I would fume if they didn't get married but this is to much!)

HCIsland · 09-25-2003, 01:34 PM

My only question is, who's on top? H.C.

ArathorofBarahir · 09-27-2003, 01:11 PM

I highly doubt that PJ would incorportate sex into ROTK. It just doesn't sound like him.[ September 27, 2003: Message edited by: ArathorofBarahir ]

Finwe · 09-27-2003, 11:12 PM

HC, my lad, you deserve to be spanked!!!! I honestly think that picture is disturbing (even though I've seen it before), but just glance at the hair, and you know it's another "interesting" picture of Elijah. I've seen so many "interesting" pictures of that poor boy, that it's not funny any more. I sincerely feel sorry for him.

Evisse the Blue · 09-28-2003, 03:12 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>I've seen so many "interesting" pictures of that poor boy, that it's not funny any more. I sincerely feel sorry for him. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> lol, my thoughts exactly! Sickening are the minds of photographers...

09-14-2003, 10:22 PM	#81
Cibbwin Wight Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California Posts: 145	Well, you need to understand, Rolling Stone likes to joke around alot. "Sexed up" probably just means more kissing. __________________ The Warrior Hobbit Nîn o Chithaeglir, lasto beth daer; Rimmo nîn Bruinen, dan in Ulaer!

09-15-2003, 12:27 PM	#82
Dininziliel Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: 3rd star from the right over Kansas Posts: 108	Thank you, King, for the reply re Arwen v. Eowyn and the big do-in on the Pelennor with Witch King. As far as what Jackson is capable of--after TT, anything goes. I have to keep telling myself that the movies are <I>based</I> on LotR. I almost wish ME was not so captivating on and real to me on screen--that way I could more easily let go of the disappointment in his having changed the plot for pizzazz instead of having so little faith in audience ability to get zazzed on T's plot. It's just so painful to get so close yet fall so far. I know certain things have to be changed, but and ... oh, I'm about to do the Faramir rant. <P>I'll just end by saying I watched the DVD of TT and was struck by how many things did not really add up. We're just so zotzed by spectacle that story sense becomes secondary.<P>Oh dear. I think ... I do believe ... yes, it must be true--I have become a fanatic.<P>And proud of it! __________________ "It is a journey without distance to a goal that has never changed."

09-15-2003, 12:56 PM	#83
Arwen Eruantale Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: My Field of Paper Flowers Posts: 282	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>yes, it must be true--I have become a fanatic.<P>And proud of it!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Hear hear! You have no idea... <P>Welcome to the Downs, dininziliel! Enjoy a long and glorious stay! __________________ And he became somewhat grim to look upon, unless he chanced to smile... Will you pay attention?

09-15-2003, 09:07 PM	#84
elvenmaiden14 Guest Posts: n/a	_________________________________________<BR>I am sorry, but Peter Jackson did not direct that movie. He just endorsed it in the advertising. It is actually directed by a man by the name of Eli Roth<BR>__________________________________________ <P>oh....thanks for telling me....hmm...yeh well when i heard his name in the trailer i thought he directed it..and it didnt seem like somethin he would be interested in ....

09-16-2003, 07:33 AM	#85
HCIsland Zombie Cannibal Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,000	Just a question.<P>Why has a throw away comment in a throw away magazine generated 84 replies (85 now - Arrgh! ) on a board that, I think, typically has very good discussions?<P>H.C.<p>[ September 16, 2003: Message edited by: HCIsland ] __________________ "Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs." -Denethor

09-16-2003, 10:52 AM	#86
The Only Real Estel Raffish Rapscallion Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Far from the 'Downs, it seems :-( Posts: 2,835	lol, HC. I'd guess because it raised an interesing topic of conversation, since most people are just posting as if the scene was actually in the movie. It's interesting to discuss peoples opinions/etc. on a sex scene in RotK (if there was one). That's my best guess (& now there's 86 ).

09-16-2003, 08:08 PM	#87
Knight of Gondor Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 744	Well, H.C., if we've OFFENDED you, we can stop... __________________ Eagerly awaiting the REAL Return of the King - Jesus Christ! Revelation 19:11-16

09-17-2003, 08:48 AM	#88
Lush Fair and Cold Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the big onion Posts: 1,770	Whether in a negative or positive fashion, a great deal of people do like to talk about any subject remotely linked to sex. __________________ ~The beginning is the word and the end is silence. And in between are all the stories. This is one of mine~

09-17-2003, 02:47 PM	#89
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Whether in a negative or positive fashion, a great deal of people do like to talk about any subject remotely linked to sex. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Too true, Lush! <BR>And Tolkienites, however unique they may be from other points of view, are no exception to this general rule. __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

09-17-2003, 07:25 PM	#90
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Whether in a negative or positive fashion, a great deal of people do like to talk about any subject remotely linked to sex. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Indeed, Lush. The mere mention of the word (especially in conjunction with the word "Outrage") is always bound to draw a crowd. It's the bread and butter of tabloid newspapers and "gossipy" magazines.<P>Next target - 4 pages. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

09-17-2003, 08:37 PM	#91
Ainaserkewen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A cosmic waiting room Posts: 651	You are all so right. Just the use of the word has brought many people into this thread in the first place.<BR>Howere, IMHO, I don't think there will be any such romantic issues in the final installment.<BR>The romantic scenes between Arwen and Aragorn probably won't get any hotter, but they are nessesary, I'm not suprised that there were so many in TTT. __________________ Solus... I'm eating chicken again. I ate chicken yesterday and the day before... will I be eating chicken again tomorrow? Why am I always eating chicken?

09-17-2003, 08:48 PM	#92
Knight of Gondor Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 744	I don't relish the subject at all! I just don't want to see the reputation of my favorite movies tarnashed by fish-wrapper rumors.<P>Perhaps it IS time to talk about something else, now that rumors are quenched... __________________ Eagerly awaiting the REAL Return of the King - Jesus Christ! Revelation 19:11-16

09-18-2003, 11:13 AM	#93
Lush Fair and Cold Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the big onion Posts: 1,770	One doesn't have to relish a subject to have a response to it, I don't think. <P>Anyway, the main purpose of <I>Rolling Stone</I> is no longer aimed at reflecting on pop culture. It is aimed at subverting and sensationalizing anything that can be subverted and sensationalized.<P>While I don't think that in this particular case the editor's desire was to tarnish a movie's image in the eye of the public, they were definitely acting according to the formula of how such magazines are sold. We have better writers at the university's weekly entertainment magazine, and none of us even get paid. Says a lot about <I>Rolling Stone</I> doesn't it?<P>Anyway, as a certain prolific BD-er said the other day, "Rolling Stone, always starting avalanches..."<p>[ September 18, 2003: Message edited by: Lush ] __________________ ~The beginning is the word and the end is silence. And in between are all the stories. This is one of mine~

09-19-2003, 06:32 PM	#94
The Only Real Estel Raffish Rapscallion Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Far from the 'Downs, it seems :-( Posts: 2,835	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Hey, let's see if we can make three pages of outrage about something that's never going to happen.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Hey, now that we've got under lock & key, Saucepan Man, why not shoot for 4? Seriously though, I don't think there's a problem about continuing to discuss it if no one else does...

09-21-2003, 09:38 PM	#95
the ninth spelunker Guest Posts: n/a	I was wondering if anyone here has seen this picture yet. It's at <A HREF="http://www.spydirweb.com/lotr.htm" TARGET=_blank>http://www.spydirweb.com/lotr.htm</A> go to pictures under links on the left side of the page and click on Frodo

09-21-2003, 09:58 PM	#96
Beren87 Master of the Secret Fire Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Between fire and ice, death and life Posts: 2,241	Now that's terribly frightening.<P>And I just have one thing to say. For all of those people who had random reponses amounting to "that stuff doesn't appeal to me at ALL!!".<P>You are indeed in the minority of the population, and more significantly, probably lieing. Realise that most people like sex, it happens to be the mechanism for continueing our species.

09-22-2003, 12:18 AM	#97
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,460	Gee, "mechanism": make it sound real attractive there, Beren. What would Tolkien say? Describing an age old act of pretty much all life forms with a word coined in 1662 relating to bumbumbum <I>machinery!</I>. The outrage! I'm so outraged I... I... oh, cookies.....<P>Oh, and I saw <A HREF="http://www.spydirweb.com/1234.jpg" TARGET=_blank>that picture</A> two years ago in Premiere magazine. (If you use that link you don't have to scroll and click around to find the pic, it'll be there, magically.)<P>Two more posts, HC, and we can start singing "99 posts of outrage on the board". (Disclaimer: This is a joke, I am in no way, shape, form, angle, or equation condoning such a mindless post). __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.

09-22-2003, 05:59 AM	#98
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Diamond's right - that pic's of Elijah, not Frodo, and it is not from the supposedly nude scene, if any of you were wondering - or hoping. __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

09-24-2003, 02:20 PM	#99
hobbit punk Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 86	Hmmm maybe this will help get it to a fourth page... <P>Seriously though, if there is a "sex scene" in ROTK, it will probably be something along the lines of Aragorn and Arwen kissing and embracing sometime after their wedding and then having the doors sort of swing shut on them. The audience is left to use their imagination and there is little slandering of Tolkien. That's it. I doubt and hope their isn't. __________________ "The alphabet does not go "A B C D What? When? How? but it does go "V W X Why? Z." -Douglas Adams

09-24-2003, 09:08 PM	#100
Aduyuldaiel-MirkwoodPrincess Haunting Spirit Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: MirkWood Posts: 73	how SICKNING is THAT?! dude...i think that PJ would have better judgment than THAT... or atleast i HOPE so but i guess well jus have to see... __________________ "when all is said and done and dead does he love you the way that i do?"

09-25-2003, 01:13 PM	#101
Jack Haunting Spirit Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Rohan or some where there abouts (probably lost!) Posts: 92	I don't read the rolling stone magizine but I will fume with you and anyone who wishes to fume to! (not like I have anything against Aragon/Arwen in fact I would fume if they didn't get married but this is to much!) __________________ I have been: eating sugar, drinking caffeinated soda, doing the wave, the disco and various other dances just as, if not more humiliating, and all in all, acting like the deranged Pirate that I am…

09-25-2003, 01:34 PM	#102
HCIsland Zombie Cannibal Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,000	My only question is, who's on top? <P>H.C. __________________ "Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs." -Denethor

09-27-2003, 01:11 PM	#103
ArathorofBarahir Wight Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Crickhallow Posts: 247	I highly doubt that PJ would incorportate sex into ROTK. It just doesn't sound like him.<p>[ September 27, 2003: Message edited by: ArathorofBarahir ] __________________ King of the Dead: The dead do not suffer the living to pass. Aragorn: You will suffer me.

09-27-2003, 11:12 PM	#104
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	HC, my lad, you deserve to be spanked!!!! <P>I honestly think that picture is disturbing (even though I've seen it before), but just glance at the hair, and you know it's another "interesting" picture of Elijah. I've seen so many "interesting" pictures of that poor boy, that it's not funny any more. I sincerely feel sorry for him. __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

09-28-2003, 03:12 AM	#105
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>I've seen so many "interesting" pictures of that poor boy, that it's not funny any more. I sincerely feel sorry for him. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>lol, my thoughts exactly! Sickening are the minds of photographers... __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.