"On the Ring..." - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

07-23-2003, 11:33 PM

Ok, is it just me and my friends, or when Frodo puts on the Ring, does he not look like he is going on a bad drug trip? I think he does...for me and my friends, it adds a little humor to a bad thing...just watch FotR and watch him the first time they hid from that Ringwraith. you'll see. He's (as I like to say) "on the ring"!

Meela · 07-24-2003, 06:01 AM

*giggles* That is quite true! he does look a bit drugged up. Perhaps this is relating in a distant way to the idea that the Ring is a sort of drug. It has been discussed in many other threads that the ring caused everyone to go a bit crazy, so maybe PJ has picked up on that in various little ways. But then it may just be coincidence.

GaladrieloftheOlden · 07-24-2003, 07:14 AM

Is there a point here? Though I think this could be a pretty good, though slightly overused idea for something in the ME Mirth forum... Swan song, ~Menelien

07-29-2003, 06:30 PM

I totally agree though me and my friends thought he looked a bit constapated.

Horse-Maiden of the Shire · 07-29-2003, 06:40 PM

Welcome to the Downs, Achika E.! Being dead is fun.I agree. Frodo does look like he is "on the Ring", so to speak. And this is proof that the Ring is like a drug: You can't live with it, you can't live without it, and when you're using it, you see things.

Genevieve · 07-29-2003, 09:57 PM

Horse Maiden of the Shire- nice way to describe it. It is like a drug, no matter who posesses it. It's weird how a ring can be like a drug, but it kind of makes sense. He does look really funny in that scene though

Ophelia · 07-30-2003, 07:57 AM

Yeah... He look's like he's high . But I spoted another thing the Ring has in common with drugs - if you use drugs for a long time you start to get real skinny , have problems with skin and do not like unsyntethical light . And as far as I know all of these things can be seen on Gollum , only oppositly the Ring drugs do not give a long life to it's "bearer" . Actually it shortens it .

Arwen Eruantale · 07-30-2003, 04:59 PM

Frodo was not "drugged up". Actually, I never thought of it that way. My hypothesis was that the Wraith was using a sort of hypnosis, if you will, and commanding him to put on the ring.("They are drawn to it's power..") Thank goodness for the others who hit him and woke him up that first time, otherwise they would certainly all have been discovered and killed in what would most likely have been a horribly gruesome scene.

Lyta_Underhill · 07-30-2003, 11:29 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>My hypothesis was that the Wraith was using a sort of hypnosis, if you will, and commanding him to put on the ring.("They are drawn to it's power..") <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I'm with you, Arwen Eruantale! When I look at his facial expressions and body language, it looks more like Frodo is struggling against something in his head and the commands of the Ringwraiths would fit quite well with this particular notion. I guess you could say the those "on drugs" or "on the Ring" are experiencing something inside or are "under the influence" of something. Perhaps it is like a dieter trying to resist the donut in the fridge, or actually breaking down and eating it! One donut to rule them all; one donut to find them; one donut to bring them all, and in sugar rushes bind them!OK, really, this post didn't start out this way! I'm getting tired and weird! Off to bed (after a donut....) Cheers, LytaP.S. But seriously now, since this post probably isn't very illuminating...I'd say the struggle against the power of the Ring and the "on the Ring" feeling are different, especially since Frodo's expressions are different in each case. When he is "on the Ring" his eyes are open wide in a horrified wonder. When he is struggling against it, he is tired, eyes droop or roll up in his head, and he grimaces (the "constipated" look spoken of). Good night for real now! Cheers, Lyta

Arwen Eruantale · 07-31-2003, 07:40 AM

Thanks Lyta!

Lord of Angmar · 07-31-2003, 08:18 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>if you use drugs for a long time you start to get real skinny , have problems with skin and do not like unsyntethical light . And as far as I know all of these things can be seen on Gollum<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Hahaha. Actually, Peter Jackson said in an interview that Gollum's eyes, facial expressions, and movements were loosely based on those of a crack addict.

07-23-2003, 11:33 PM	#1
Failariel Guest Posts: n/a	"On the Ring..." Ok, is it just me and my friends, or when Frodo puts on the Ring, does he not look like he is going on a bad drug trip? I think he does...for me and my friends, it adds a little humor to a bad thing...just watch FotR and watch him the first time they hid from that Ringwraith. you'll see. He's (as I like to say) "on the ring"!

07-24-2003, 06:01 AM	#2
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,049	giggles That is quite true! he does look a bit drugged up. Perhaps this is relating in a distant way to the idea that the Ring is a sort of drug. It has been discussed in many other threads that the ring caused everyone to go a bit crazy, so maybe PJ has picked up on that in various little ways. But then it may just be coincidence. __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard.

07-24-2003, 07:14 AM	#3
GaladrieloftheOlden Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Massachusetts - digging up a bottomless hole, searching for something that's not there... Posts: 1,514	Is there a point here? Though I think this could be a pretty good, though slightly overused idea for something in the ME Mirth forum... <P>Swan song,<BR>~Menelien __________________ "Glue... very powerful stuff."

07-29-2003, 06:40 PM	#5
Horse-Maiden of the Shire Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Chillaxin' with Glorfindel-441 miles on the RtR Posts: 1,197	Welcome to the Downs, Achika E.! Being dead is fun.<P>I agree. Frodo <I>does</I> look like he is "on the Ring", so to speak. And this is proof that the Ring is like a drug: You can't live with it, you can't live without it, and when you're using it, you see things. __________________ "There's a big...machine in the sky...some kind of electric snake...coming straight at us." "Shoot it," said my attorney. "Not yet...I want to study its habits."

07-29-2003, 09:57 PM	#6
Genevieve Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Where am I? Huh? I'm lost! Posts: 50	Horse Maiden of the Shire- nice way to describe it. It is like a drug, no matter who posesses it. It's weird how a ring can be like a drug, but it kind of makes sense. He does look really funny in that scene though __________________ No thought was put into this I always knew it would come to this. Things have never been so swell I have never failed to feel Pain.

07-29-2003, 06:30 PM	#4
Achika E. Guest Posts: n/a	I totally agree though me and my friends thought he looked a bit constapated.

07-30-2003, 07:57 AM	#7
Ophelia Wight Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: somewhere between the sacred , silence and sweet . Posts: 169	Yeah... He look's like he's high . But I spoted another thing the Ring has in common with drugs - if you use drugs for a long time you start to get real skinny , have problems with skin and do not like unsyntethical light . And as far as I know all of these things can be seen on Gollum , only oppositly the Ring drugs do not give a long life to it's "bearer" . Actually it shortens it . __________________ I didn't lose my mind . It was mine to give away .

07-30-2003, 04:59 PM	#8
Arwen Eruantale Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: My Field of Paper Flowers Posts: 282	Frodo was not "drugged up". Actually, I never thought of it that way. <P>My hypothesis was that the Wraith was using a sort of hypnosis, if you will, and commanding him to put on the ring.("They are drawn to it's power..") <BR>Thank goodness for the others who hit him and woke him up that first time, otherwise they would certainly all have been discovered and killed in what would most likely have been a horribly gruesome scene. __________________ And he became somewhat grim to look upon, unless he chanced to smile... Will you pay attention?

07-30-2003, 11:29 PM	#9
Lyta_Underhill Haunted Halfling Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: an uncounted length of steps--floating between air molecules Posts: 841	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>My hypothesis was that the Wraith was using a sort of hypnosis, if you will, and commanding him to put on the ring.("They are drawn to it's power..") <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I'm with you, <B>Arwen Eruantale</B>! When I look at his facial expressions and body language, it looks more like Frodo is struggling against something in his head and the commands of the Ringwraiths would fit quite well with this particular notion. I guess you could say the those "on drugs" or "on the Ring" are experiencing something inside or are "under the influence" of something. Perhaps it is like a dieter trying to resist the donut in the fridge, or actually breaking down and eating it! <P>One donut to rule them all; one donut to find them; one donut to bring them all, and in sugar rushes bind them!<P>OK, really, this post didn't start out this way! I'm getting tired and weird! Off to bed (after a donut....) <P>Cheers,<BR>Lyta<P>P.S. But seriously now, since this post probably isn't very illuminating...I'd say the struggle against the power of the Ring and the "on the Ring" feeling are different, especially since Frodo's expressions are different in each case. When he is "on the Ring" his eyes are open wide in a horrified wonder. When he is struggling against it, he is tired, eyes droop or roll up in his head, and he grimaces (the "constipated" look spoken of). Good night for real now! <P>Cheers,<BR>Lyta __________________ “…she laid herself to rest upon Cerin Amroth; and there is her green grave, until the world is changed, and all the days of her life are utterly forgotten by men that come after, and elanor and niphredil bloom no more east of the Sea.”

07-31-2003, 07:40 AM	#10
Arwen Eruantale Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: My Field of Paper Flowers Posts: 282	Thanks Lyta! __________________ And he became somewhat grim to look upon, unless he chanced to smile... Will you pay attention?

07-31-2003, 08:18 AM	#11
Lord of Angmar Tyrannus Incorporalis Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: the North Posts: 833	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>if you use drugs for a long time you start to get real skinny , have problems with skin and do not like unsyntethical light . And as far as I know all of these things can be seen on Gollum<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Hahaha. Actually, Peter Jackson said in an interview that Gollum's eyes, facial expressions, and movements were loosely based on those of a crack addict. __________________ ...where the instrument of intelligence is added to brute power and evil will, mankind is powerless in its own defence.