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Mordor_Queen · 03-21-2003, 07:30 AM

Yeah because that was a really gripping part in the book and i was so looking forward to it when I went to see The Two Towers, but then I found out that they had moved it into the Return of the King.

Sapphire_Flame · 03-21-2003, 03:49 PM

Right on, Aratlithiel. I think LotR really wouldn't have done as well as it has if it had been completely true to the books; people nowadays aren't really able to disect those sorts of deep thinking and meaningful scenes. If they movies were to be done properly, for the tried and true fans of the books, there would have to be six movies, one for each book. Maybe they could come out more frequently too (one every six months). Those're just my little thoughts about it; you all may feel differently...**271 days until RotK**

Gorwingel · 03-22-2003, 06:34 PM

I was just wondering, since they are probably not going to talk about how they created the charater of Shelob before ROTK comes out because it would give away a major storyline. How do you think she is going to be created? Is she going to be computer generated, or a mixture of puppetry and other things. I would put my money on computer, because she would probably be even easier than doing Gollum.

Tar-Palantir · 03-22-2003, 06:47 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> I would put my money on computer <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I think that is a smart bet! The scene outside of the path will need to be something faster moving than a physical prop covered with foam latex and paint. I bet they make her very nimble and quick, I hope with a sinister type of intelligence too.Probably very similar to the Watcher in the Water or the Cave Troll.

Gorwingel · 03-22-2003, 08:20 PM

Or maybe even like the Balrog, I hope she is wonderful though and evil

HCIsland · 03-22-2003, 09:13 PM

I am very hopeful of these guys giving us a good Shelob. I can see part of her being aminatronics though, especially at the moment when Sam stabs her. I think he may need a level of interaction here that computers can't provide.Treebeard was part aminatronics, so this is something they do.H.C.

03-23-2003, 08:35 AM

I'm not sure if the Shelob was really permanantly left out. I don't know because I have no connections or information, but it might be in Return of the King. If you'd noticed, TTT didn't end where the book did at all. It ended before the part where the Shelob was supposed to be in, so in my opinion, there could still be hope.

03-23-2003, 09:06 AM

I think that they are going to have ro add things from TTT the book to ROTK cause otherwise it would totally suk I am obbcessed w/ the movies and the books i am getting really po w/ PJ

HCIsland · 03-23-2003, 10:23 AM

Shelob will be in Return of the King. This has been confirmed by PJ himself.H.C.

Sapphire_Flame · 03-24-2003, 05:07 PM

In the theatrical version DVD of Fellowship, there's a making-of feature that was on Fox at some point, and you do see a bitty artist's model of Shelob for like five seconds. I thought she looked very good, like a cross between a black widow and a tarantula.In my opinion, she will be mostly CG, but, in the making-of book that I have, they do mention some animatronic spider legs being in one of the prop stores, most likely for Sam's interaction with her, like HCIsland said.

03-24-2003, 05:33 PM

Oh good! Thanks for clearing that up with me HCIsland^^While the Shelob will probably be most cgi, PJ and crew has done a great job with the cgi characters from the other two (the troll was magnificent!) so I have faith in them making the Shelob spectacular!

**The Saucepan Man** · 03-24-2003, 07:49 PM

For those of you who were annoyed that Shelob was not in TTT, just console yourselves with the thought that you still have her to look forward to.As I think I said earlier in this thread, what a great curtain raiser she will be for RotK.

Iarwain · 03-24-2003, 07:59 PM

Ah, but what a great curtain closer it would have been. Of course, I'm over her absense myself. I've generally accepted TTT as a failure. With all the stuff they have to cram into RotK, my guess is that it's going to an action packed three and a half hour rollercoster ride.

03-21-2003, 07:30 AM	#41
Mordor_Queen Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Mordor Posts: 53	Yeah because that was a really gripping part in the book and i was so looking forward to it when I went to see The Two Towers, but then I found out that they had moved it into the Return of the King. __________________ "In place of a Dark Lord you shall have a Queen! Not Dark but beatiful! All shall love me and despair!"-Galadriel

03-21-2003, 03:49 PM	#42
Sapphire_Flame Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The World That Never Was Posts: 1,232	Right on, Aratlithiel. I think LotR really wouldn't have done as well as it has if it had been completely true to the books; people nowadays aren't really able to disect those sorts of deep thinking and meaningful scenes. If they movies were to be done properly, for the tried and true fans of the books, there would have to be six movies, one for each book. Maybe they could come out more frequently too (one every six months). Those're just my little thoughts about it; you all may feel differently...<P>271 days until RotK __________________ The Hitchhiking Ghost

03-22-2003, 06:34 PM	#43
Gorwingel Beholder of the Mists Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Somewhere in the Northwest... for now Posts: 1,419	I was just wondering, since they are probably not going to talk about how they created the charater of Shelob before ROTK comes out because it would give away a major storyline. How do you think she is going to be created? Is she going to be computer generated, or a mixture of puppetry and other things. I would put my money on computer, because she would probably be even easier than doing Gollum. __________________ Wanted - Wonderfully witty quote that consists of pure brilliance

03-22-2003, 06:47 PM	#44
Tar-Palantir Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: napa valley, ca Posts: 496	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> I would put my money on computer <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I think that is a smart bet! The scene outside of the path will need to be something faster moving than a physical prop covered with foam latex and paint. I bet they make her very nimble and quick, I hope with a sinister type of intelligence too.<P>Probably very similar to the Watcher in the Water or the Cave Troll. __________________ History shows again and again How nature points up the folly of men Go, go, Godzilla!

03-22-2003, 08:20 PM	#45
Gorwingel Beholder of the Mists Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Somewhere in the Northwest... for now Posts: 1,419	Or maybe even like the Balrog, I hope she is wonderful though and evil __________________ Wanted - Wonderfully witty quote that consists of pure brilliance

03-22-2003, 09:13 PM	#46
HCIsland Zombie Cannibal Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,000	I am very hopeful of these guys giving us a good Shelob. I can see part of her being aminatronics though, especially at the moment when Sam stabs her. I think he may need a level of interaction here that computers can't provide.<P>Treebeard was part aminatronics, so this is something they do.<P>H.C. __________________ "Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs." -Denethor

03-23-2003, 08:35 AM	#47
elvenarcheressnenya Guest Posts: n/a	I'm not sure if the Shelob was really permanantly left out. I don't know because I have no connections or information, but it might be in Return of the King. If you'd noticed, TTT didn't end where the book did at all. It ended before the part where the Shelob was supposed to be in, so in my opinion, there could still be hope.

03-23-2003, 09:06 AM	#48
Loremir Guest Posts: n/a	I think that they are going to have ro add things from TTT the book to ROTK cause otherwise it would totally suk I am obbcessed w/ the movies and the books i am getting really po w/ PJ

03-23-2003, 10:23 AM	#49
HCIsland Zombie Cannibal Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,000	Shelob will be in Return of the King. This has been confirmed by PJ himself.<P>H.C. __________________ "Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs." -Denethor

03-24-2003, 05:07 PM	#50
Sapphire_Flame Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The World That Never Was Posts: 1,232	In the theatrical version DVD of Fellowship, there's a making-of feature that was on Fox at some point, and you do see a bitty artist's model of Shelob for like five seconds. I thought she looked very good, like a cross between a black widow and a tarantula.<P>In my opinion, she will be mostly CG, but, in the making-of book that I have, they do mention some animatronic spider legs being in one of the prop stores, most likely for Sam's interaction with her, like HCIsland said. __________________ The Hitchhiking Ghost

03-24-2003, 05:33 PM	#51
elvenarcheressnenya Guest Posts: n/a	Oh good! Thanks for clearing that up with me HCIsland^^<P>While the Shelob will probably be most cgi, PJ and crew has done a great job with the cgi characters from the other two (the troll was magnificent!) so I have faith in them making the Shelob spectacular!

03-24-2003, 07:49 PM	#52
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	For those of you who were annoyed that Shelob was not in TTT, just console yourselves with the thought that you still have her to look forward to.<P>As I think I said earlier in this thread, what a great curtain raiser she will be for RotK. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

03-24-2003, 07:59 PM	#53
Iarwain Pugnaciously Primordial Paradox Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Birnham Wood Posts: 800	Ah, but what a great curtain closer it would have been. Of course, I'm over her absense myself. I've generally accepted TTT as a failure. With all the stuff they have to cram into RotK, my guess is that it's going to an action packed three and a half hour rollercoster ride. __________________ "And what are oaths but words we say to God?"