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02-08-2003, 05:59 AM

What the hell is everybody sayin? why do people always bad mouth dragons [img]smilies/mad.gif[/img] i mean so what if they kill people they're class! Why don't you post what you think about them! oh and don't be too harsh you still don't know what i am!! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

dragoneyes · 02-08-2003, 09:38 AM

I haven't seen anyone say anything bad about dragons in ages, and I do look out for things about dragons. As you can see from my name, I'm hardly going to hate dragons am I? I love them!

Is this at all Tolkien related though?

ElentariGreenleaf · 02-08-2003, 09:46 AM

Um, well, it is now! Smaug wasn't all that evil. Stupid whatshisname the archer went and.... actually, I better not say cuase dragoneyes hasn't read the hobbit yet.

You do get really ugly pics of dragons, but that's just offencive to them! I think you do get really ugly evil ones though and I don't like them. That's the only acception to when people can say nasty things bout dragons!

dragoneyes · 02-08-2003, 10:18 AM

I do know that whatshisname the archer killed Smaug though [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img].

Ithildin · 02-08-2003, 11:13 AM

dragons are cool!! they are the symbol of something magical!

Tar-Palantir · 02-08-2003, 12:45 PM

poor Dragoneyes - that sucks [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

Go read it! It is very quick reading, and that little bit of knowledge won't ruin the book - It's not a big surprise really.

***random dragon rant ahead***

Dragon's have nasty breath, are very self-centered, eat people, hoard treasure they can never even spend, and, as my dear Grandma would say, they are "too big for their britches". So there. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

[ February 08, 2003: Message edited by: Tar-Palantir ]

Inderjit Sanghera · 02-08-2003, 02:44 PM

I agree-just because they kill or maim everything they see, doesn't mean they should be shunned.

No, wait a minute...

dragoneyes · 02-08-2003, 03:44 PM

The trouble is you only hear about the ones who kill and maim. Yet again, it's misrepresentation on the behalf of the media.

eleanor_niphredil · 02-09-2003, 04:58 AM

Its not like they go out thinking "today I am going to kill someone, just for the heck of it". lions and Tigers kill people if they see them, but still there are loads of "save the tigers" campaigns.

"Save the Dragons!"

Inderjit Sanghera · 02-09-2003, 05:57 AM

So ,the Elanor,do you fancy going to the streets of Dale to campaign for Dragons? I'm sure that the Dwarves would wholeheartedly supoort our campaign.

Tar-Palantir · 02-09-2003, 02:32 PM

Misrepresentation by the media?? [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

I like that, that's funny! Maybe these dragons just need better agents. Or maybe they should stop killing, and hoarding, and burning - destroyers and usurpers!

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lions and Tigers kill people if they see them, but still there are loads of "save the tigers" campaigns.

You girls, I'm seriously blowing milk out my nose this thread is so funny! Save the Dragons! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Are you really comparing a tiger to a dragon? Perhaps you'd like to compare a small black widow to Shelob? Perhaps a pirahna to the Watcher in the Water?

Vardamar · 02-09-2003, 07:20 PM

But does he mean Middel Earth dragons, or real dragons?

In Middle Earth dragons are generally not bad, just out for themselves.

In ancient Europe dragons were a great honor to kill

And in Asia dragons a venerated.

Diamond18 · 02-09-2003, 07:40 PM

I dare all you dragon lovers out there to go say "save the dragons!" to Túrin Turambar.

Inderjit Sanghera · 02-10-2003, 05:06 AM

I except he will heartily shake our hands. Or swipe our heads off...

purplefluffychainsaw · 02-10-2003, 07:38 AM

DRAGON'S ARE ADDORABLE!!!! Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... Dragons!!!! I wanna dragon!!!! Why DOES everyone bad mouth them??? I'll join a protest!!! [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]

eleanor_niphredil · 02-10-2003, 11:06 AM

You can compare a dragon to a tiger because the terror of a dragon in middle-earth is equal to that of a tiger in real life.

Sapphire_Flame · 02-10-2003, 11:39 AM

SAVE THE DRAGONS!!!!! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Even when they are being all flame-like and eating people I think they're cool. The people probably deserved to get eaten anyway [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] j/k

And all you dragon bashers out there, get your little selves off this thread, it's for dragon lovers only. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]

Anyone want to know a site with some nice dragon pics on it, go to Tarnished Images. I got my pic for this site there (even though you can't see it here for some reason....curse the red x's!) and there're some other nice ones there. Mine's Inferno. But I also like Maelstrom a lot.

Dragon fans of the world unite!!!!!!

Inderjit Sanghera · 02-10-2003, 02:47 PM

Unite and do what? Resurect dragons? Somehow I don't think that will please everyone on Earth. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Sapphire_Flame · 02-10-2003, 03:48 PM

Yeah, well, cry about it. Dragons are great. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]

Diamond18 · 02-10-2003, 04:04 PM

Dragon basher? I'm insulted! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

It's just that Tolkien very clearly made his dragons bad guys. What's next, Save the Balrogs, they're cuddly, cute, and are our friends? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Now, the Earthsea dragons are good guys, more or less. I practically burst into spontaneous cheering when Kalessin flame-broiled Aspen and his evil cronies. Go you good thing! (If you haven't read the Earthsea books, DO!!!)

Sapphire_Flame · 02-10-2003, 04:10 PM

I will have to read those books, my dad has thoroughly recommended them as well.

And, it may be just me, but I like dragons when they're the bad guys just as much as when they are the good guys. It's just the principle of the thing, ya know? As long as they're flaming something then I'm happy! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 09-22-2006, 08:05 AM

Diamond18, for shame. How can you equate dragons with balrogs? Would Durin's Bane have started a chain of charity toy shops? Would it have offered hypnotherapy to amnesiac Eldar? As we can see from HoME XXXVIII (Myths Rewritten) Glaurung did both of these things. And what of Smaug the Golden? Murdered unjustly by a footpad while simply trying to reclaim his property from thieves. Only Dwarves could take an innocent hostile takeover as an excuse for brigandage; and only a morally reprehensible people like the Men of Dale would so opportunistically exploit that situation to stage a mugging. Smaug was one of the main donors to the South Mordor Distressed Gentleorcs Fund, which collapsed at the end of the Third Age without his contributions to support it. Dragons get too bad a press, and it was high time somebody started to stand up to the naysayers.

02-08-2003, 05:59 AM	#1
raukomarth Guest Posts: n/a	Dragons? What the hell is everybody sayin? why do people always bad mouth dragons [img]smilies/mad.gif[/img] i mean so what if they kill people they're class! Why don't you post what you think about them! oh and don't be too harsh you still don't know what i am!! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

02-08-2003, 09:38 AM	#2
dragoneyes Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Completely lost track, sorry! Posts: 733	I haven't seen anyone say anything bad about dragons in ages, and I do look out for things about dragons. As you can see from my name, I'm hardly going to hate dragons am I? I love them! Is this at all Tolkien related though? __________________ "We might succeed in roasting Pippin alive inside." - Frodo.

02-08-2003, 09:46 AM	#3
ElentariGreenleaf Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Look, I'm over there! Posts: 496	Um, well, it is now! Smaug wasn't all that evil. Stupid whatshisname the archer went and.... actually, I better not say cuase dragoneyes hasn't read the hobbit yet. You do get really ugly pics of dragons, but that's just offencive to them! I think you do get really ugly evil ones though and I don't like them. That's the only acception to when people can say nasty things bout dragons! __________________ There is a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot. Website\|Art

02-08-2003, 10:18 AM	#4
dragoneyes Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Completely lost track, sorry! Posts: 733	I do know that whatshisname the archer killed Smaug though [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]. __________________ "We might succeed in roasting Pippin alive inside." - Frodo.

02-08-2003, 12:45 PM	#6
Tar-Palantir Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: napa valley, ca Posts: 496	poor Dragoneyes - that sucks [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] Go read it! It is very quick reading, and that little bit of knowledge won't ruin the book - It's not a big surprise really. *random dragon rant ahead* Dragon's have nasty breath, are very self-centered, eat people, hoard treasure they can never even spend, and, as my dear Grandma would say, they are "too big for their britches". So there. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [ February 08, 2003: Message edited by: Tar-Palantir ] __________________ History shows again and again How nature points up the folly of men Go, go, Godzilla!

02-08-2003, 11:13 AM	#5
Ithildin Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Norway Posts: 11	dragons are cool!! they are the symbol of something magical!

02-08-2003, 02:44 PM	#7
Inderjit Sanghera Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Wolverhampton, England Posts: 716	I agree-just because they kill or maim everything they see, doesn't mean they should be shunned. No, wait a minute... __________________ “If I’m more of an influence on your son as a rapper then you are as a father then you've got to look at yourself as a parent” ~>Ice Cube. "Life is so beautiful"->Don Vito Corleone

02-08-2003, 03:44 PM	#8
dragoneyes Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Completely lost track, sorry! Posts: 733	The trouble is you only hear about the ones who kill and maim. Yet again, it's misrepresentation on the behalf of the media. __________________ "We might succeed in roasting Pippin alive inside." - Frodo.

02-09-2003, 04:58 AM	#9
eleanor_niphredil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: england Posts: 805	Its not like they go out thinking "today I am going to kill someone, just for the heck of it". lions and Tigers kill people if they see them, but still there are loads of "save the tigers" campaigns. "Save the Dragons!" __________________ Here I am, brain the size of a planet, and they ask me to spend my time on this forum. And by the way, for any of you turning into a penguin, stop it. ~* I am Pippin took in the Female Fellowship*~

02-09-2003, 05:57 AM	#10
Inderjit Sanghera Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Wolverhampton, England Posts: 716	So ,the Elanor,do you fancy going to the streets of Dale to campaign for Dragons? I'm sure that the Dwarves would wholeheartedly supoort our campaign. __________________ “If I’m more of an influence on your son as a rapper then you are as a father then you've got to look at yourself as a parent” ~>Ice Cube. "Life is so beautiful"->Don Vito Corleone

02-09-2003, 07:20 PM	#12
Vardamar Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Right over Here!! No Here!! Yoohoo! Posts: 97	But does he mean Middel Earth dragons, or real dragons? In Middle Earth dragons are generally not bad, just out for themselves. In ancient Europe dragons were a great honor to kill And in Asia dragons a venerated. __________________ Strength without wisdom falls by its own weight.

02-09-2003, 07:40 PM	#13
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,460	I dare all you dragon lovers out there to go say "save the dragons!" to Túrin Turambar. __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.

02-10-2003, 05:06 AM	#14
Inderjit Sanghera Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Wolverhampton, England Posts: 716	I except he will heartily shake our hands. Or swipe our heads off... __________________ “If I’m more of an influence on your son as a rapper then you are as a father then you've got to look at yourself as a parent” ~>Ice Cube. "Life is so beautiful"->Don Vito Corleone

02-10-2003, 07:38 AM	#15
purplefluffychainsaw Wight Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a very cold place.... Posts: 162	DRAGON'S ARE ADDORABLE!!!! Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... Dragons!!!! I wanna dragon!!!! Why DOES everyone bad mouth them??? I'll join a protest!!! [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] __________________ Love, Drugs and Fairy Boys ~ SAM

02-10-2003, 11:06 AM	#16
eleanor_niphredil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: england Posts: 805	You can compare a dragon to a tiger because the terror of a dragon in middle-earth is equal to that of a tiger in real life. __________________ Here I am, brain the size of a planet, and they ask me to spend my time on this forum. And by the way, for any of you turning into a penguin, stop it. ~* I am Pippin took in the Female Fellowship*~

02-10-2003, 11:39 AM	#17
Sapphire_Flame Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The World That Never Was Posts: 1,232	SAVE THE DRAGONS!!!!! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Even when they are being all flame-like and eating people I think they're cool. The people probably deserved to get eaten anyway [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] j/k And all you dragon bashers out there, get your little selves off this thread, it's for dragon lovers only. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] Anyone want to know a site with some nice dragon pics on it, go to Tarnished Images. I got my pic for this site there (even though you can't see it here for some reason....curse the red x's!) and there're some other nice ones there. Mine's Inferno. But I also like Maelstrom a lot. Dragon fans of the world unite!!!!!! __________________ The Hitchhiking Ghost

02-10-2003, 02:47 PM	#18
Inderjit Sanghera Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Wolverhampton, England Posts: 716	Unite and do what? Resurect dragons? Somehow I don't think that will please everyone on Earth. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ “If I’m more of an influence on your son as a rapper then you are as a father then you've got to look at yourself as a parent” ~>Ice Cube. "Life is so beautiful"->Don Vito Corleone

02-10-2003, 03:48 PM	#19
Sapphire_Flame Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The World That Never Was Posts: 1,232	Yeah, well, cry about it. Dragons are great. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] __________________ The Hitchhiking Ghost

02-10-2003, 04:04 PM	#20
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,460	Dragon basher? I'm insulted! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] It's just that Tolkien very clearly made his dragons bad guys. What's next, Save the Balrogs, they're cuddly, cute, and are our friends? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] Now, the Earthsea dragons are good guys, more or less. I practically burst into spontaneous cheering when Kalessin flame-broiled Aspen and his evil cronies. Go you good thing! (If you haven't read the Earthsea books, DO!!!) __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.

02-10-2003, 04:10 PM	#21
Sapphire_Flame Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The World That Never Was Posts: 1,232	I will have to read those books, my dad has thoroughly recommended them as well. And, it may be just me, but I like dragons when they're the bad guys just as much as when they are the good guys. It's just the principle of the thing, ya know? As long as they're flaming something then I'm happy! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ The Hitchhiking Ghost

09-22-2006, 08:05 AM	#22
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	The kindness of long worms Diamond18, for shame. How can you equate dragons with balrogs? Would Durin's Bane have started a chain of charity toy shops? Would it have offered hypnotherapy to amnesiac Eldar? As we can see from HoME XXXVIII (Myths Rewritten) Glaurung did both of these things. And what of Smaug the Golden? Murdered unjustly by a footpad while simply trying to reclaim his property from thieves. Only Dwarves could take an innocent hostile takeover as an excuse for brigandage; and only a morally reprehensible people like the Men of Dale would so opportunistically exploit that situation to stage a mugging. Smaug was one of the main donors to the South Mordor Distressed Gentleorcs Fund, which collapsed at the end of the Third Age without his contributions to support it. Dragons get too bad a press, and it was high time somebody started to stand up to the naysayers. __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?