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05-08-2020, 05:29 PM | #641 |
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Feeling good about: Legate - He started and continuously encouraged the Huin bandwagon. I highly doubt a wolf would have been that vocal in support of lynching a packmate who, until Legate started the push, really wasn't in trouble. Shasta - I still really like his reaction to the Kit thing. I don't think his vote yesterDay says much of anything, but I've liked what I've seen from him. Feeling okay about: Pitch - He voted very early in the Huin bandwagon, and at a time when his vote really swung the momentum. I don't think he would have done that if he was a wolf. Also, Greenie mentioned that Huin kept pushing attention onto the GLP, and that that probably means none of the GLP were wolves, which I think is a good point. Eonwe - He cast the deciding vote yesterDay, and I think if he'd voted for Mac instead, no one would have been too suspicious, so I read that as fairly innocent. Lalaith - She voted for Huin when the votes were extremely close, and she could've easily justified voting for Mac instead. Brinn - Ditto Lalaith - she could have easily swung the vote in Mac's direction. Mac - I don't think the wolves would have been okay with the only two bandwagons being for two wolves, so I'm thinking that Mac must have been innocent, or we would have seen a lot more pressure coming Zil's and my direction. Greenie - Her vote was too early and didn't really give us much information, but I've liked her reasonableness and helpfulness. Feeling nothing about: Lhuna - Wasn't around when the Huinwagon got started, and I don't have enough to go on to have a strong feeling. Kath - Ditto Lhuna, she wasn't there fore the Huin wagon and I don't have a strong feeling one way or the other. Feeling dubious about: Lommy - I wouldn't be at all shocked if Lommy turned out to be a wolf, but I wouldn't say she's my top suspect. She sort of soft supported the Huin wagon initially, then backed off when it actually took off, which could go either way. Rune - I get a bad feeling from him, but that could be in part because he suspects me. I don't like that he essentially tried to start up a new bandwagon in the middle of the Huinwagon taking off, but that could again be an innocent who just didn't really suspect either candidate. Definitely keeping my eye on him. THE Ka - Really didn't like her vote yesterDay, but again, I am definitely biased there. I also don't share the way she approaches suspicion and analyzing the game, which means I find her reasoning to be suspicious pretty much every time. Like Rune, I'm keeping an eye out, but she isn't on the top of my list. Feeling bad about: Sally - I haven't seen enough of her to get a good read, but the timing of her vote was pretty bad. I don't think that all three of Boro, Sally, and Zil are wolves, though, and I think Sally is the least suspicious of the three - but if Boro and/or Zil turn out to be innocent, Sally's going to jump way up my suspicion list. Boro - It would have been bold to try to save Huin so late in the bandwagon, but if it had worked, wouldn't it have been worth it? The votes were very, very close. Legate also noticed that Boro soft suspected Huin earlier that Day, but didn't end up voting him, which I also find suspicious. I've found Boro to be suspicious for a while now, and I definitely consider him to be one of my top suspects. Inzil - Between his vote placement and the Kit thing yesterDay, I really, really think Zil is likely to be a wolf. Huin suspected him a little, and tied him to me, which makes sense in terms of wolf-on-wolf plus implicating someone else. I also got a bad sense from his first post toDay - why bring up that there might have been a wolf in the Huin voters but not even mention that there almost definitely is one in the Mac voters? Easily my top suspect.
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But most of all. Since you brought it up again, I can't but reiterate that this is behaviour I absolutely can't understand from you. Ok, let's say I wake up on Day 2 and find a Ranger alive when I thought they should have been killed. What do I do? I keep it to myself!!! Why should I even open my mouth about it, unless I am a Wolf or a Cobbler? If I mention it, I'm only adding fuel to the fire of the Wolves, who may exactly have orchestrated this to have her lynched, or may accidentally draw out the real Ranger (if this was a mistake and the person isn't a Ranger after all), etc. Summa summarum: I can't see a single benefit of bringing it up, and I can see a lot of ways that it can harm someone. EDIT: x-ed with Lottie. But now I'm really going to sleep.
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Okay, but seriously, in a village this big with that many wolves, there could still be a Mac and Huey pack without significant wolf-on-wolf voting. At a certain point in a bandwagon, it behooves one to vote for your packmate more than not, so when both of them happened to come up at lynch candidates yesterDay, their pack would have had to vote for one of them in order not to look like they were trying to pull votes away. Likewise, a wolf could early vote a packmate as a throw away and not expect anything to come of it, and then that person is lynched that Day after a swing in suspicion. In short, you can have wolf-on-wolf voting without the pack intentionally turning on each other. ~ And another thing! Why would the pack leave Kitanna alive at that point? If she's the ranger, free dead ranger. If she's not, she's still a good pick because people might assume she's the ranger and she would be less likely to get lynched. Boring? Maybe. Effective? Definitely. x'd since the post I quoted
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So who are the remaining Wolves?
Lottie? Very opportunistic, and the Huey vote is not a free pass. Like I said, with five of them, the Wolves could afford to be open to the idea of a pack sacrifice. Mac? Rikae's "suspect". Same for Pitch, who I also felt was rather opportunistic yesterDay in suspecting me, especially when Lottie jumped in. Strangely, I haven't yet got that vibe from him toDay. Someone I haven't paid much attention to, like Ka or Lommy? Seriously, folks. I know I'm a main topic of conversation, but don't get tunnel-vision.
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I really don't like that Sally keeps bringing up the idea that both Mac and Hui are wolves. Sure, it's always possible, but I find it less likely. It feels like she is trying to use this as a distraction from the Mac voters, herself included. Quote:
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I've missed you too, Brinn.
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Also, unless Mac is also a wolf, it doesn't really follow - I'd already mentioned my suspicion of Mac earlier that Day (though I did later say I was feeling a bit better about him later), so I if I'd wanted a manufactured reason to go after him, there was already precedent. Quote:
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[/QUOTE] All good points. I'll repeat my disclaimer that I'm not saying we must ignore the Huey voters yesterday, because there can't be wolf-on-wolf. I feel my judgment has been kind of off so far and trying to be more pragmatic/methodical. What do I know currently from the night kills and the lynches? The night kills have been safe. Effective? Yes. But no risks taken. The lynches for all their chaos have gone extremely favorably. So what's more suspicious looking? The votes of people who lynched a now known wolf? The votes of people who voted for and unknown Mac and not HueyWolf? The votes of people who didn't vote for either? Today, I'm not interested in trying to consider wolf-on-wolf strategy. There's still a ton of people, which means the Mac-votes and the "didn't vote for either" votes, are the more suspicious voters. Quote:
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I'm just saying, Boro my love, that discounting wolf-on-wolf tactics opens you up to missing a lot of possibilities.
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Mostly quoteless, for readability. Day1, he's mostly out against Pitch and Lommy. He talks about a number of other people over the course of his posts, but it's all too lukewarm to draw conclusions from, I feel. He tries to dissuade people from the Brinn-wagon, votes Gala. He suspects there's a wolf among the Brinn suspecters. He "defends" me in #93, #105, and #115, and he doesn't do anything like that with anybody else. But then in #115 and #154 he encourages others to make points against me, the sneak. It still feels like he's, all defense be damned, just waiting for someone to give him a reason to turn on me. I called him out on that and it was Greenie who came to his defense. Quote:
Starts Day2 with a bunch of analysis, but his main suspect remains Pitch, with Lommy second. Inzil and Loslote are mentioned as suspicious. Boro takes up some prominence in his posts. Greenie, Brinn, and Legate seem innocent to him. There's a mild sneaky defense of Eonwe in #366, but he backs off after Kitanna explains herself. In #417 he still has Pitch up in his suspicion together with me. Loslote is dropped, Lommy and Inzil are still suspicious to him, but he's easing it. No mention of Boro anymore. Noteworthily, his suspicion of me includes a defense of Greenie. It's interesting how in #429 Lommy is his third suspect, yet she's apparently neutral to him. His suspicion towards Inzil is fairly half-hearted as well, though he raises it later on. A lot of his points and suspicions feel like he's throwing things around to see what sticks, and if it doesn't, he just leaves it. Pitch, me, and to a lesser degree Lommy and Inzil are the only ones he's somewhat serious about. In conclusion: Fairly sure Pitch is innocent. I'm tempted to feel better about Lommy and Inzil, but I feel a wolf-on-wolf suspicion is possible there, Lommy more so than Inzil, since he doesn't follow through at all. Can't make my mind up about his half-hearted suspicion of Boro. Brinn, Greenie, Eonwe, and Legate are implicated negatively, in certain degrees, in that order. Last edited by Macalaure; 05-08-2020 at 07:30 PM. Reason: crossed a bunch |
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Legate of Amon Lanc - started the Hui-waggon, nothing pinging on my radar. Loslote - Still seems fine to me. Pitchwife - Despite his immediate suspicion of me toDay, I'm inclined to believe that he's actually innocent - most of what he says seems logical and to come out of genuine concern for the village being misled/tricked. Kath - The wolfy vibes I got yesterDay don't seem to have amounted to much. Lhunardawen - Still seems fine to me. A Little Green - Still seems fine to me. Temporarily off the hook (I haven't seen any suspicious behaviour since Day 1) Brinniel Macalaure Concerned about Shastanis Althreduin - I didn't like how he waited until his vote didn't matter. THE Ka - Expanded the votes to 3 candidates after one was a wolf - definitely one to look at if Mac does turn out to be a wolf. Thinlómien - My suspicions of her haven't subsided. Also, in her first post toDay, she completely discounts the idea of wolf-on-wolf. Lalaith - I didn't like how she brought more attention to the fact that Kit was the Ranger yesterDay (with her presumption that it was obviously true) and her logic toDay seems wolvish (as noted earlier) Rune Son of Bjarne - Just a feeling at the moment; I need to reread his posts. Probably evil Inziladun - His pushing Kit out, late Mac vote, and immediate focus on wolf-on-wolf have just added to me thinking he's suspicious. Plus he's a late Mac voter. Boromir88 - Two days in a row, he's shaped his discussion in a way I find suspicious. He's also a late Mac voter. Satansaloser2005 - Ever since she appeared near the end of yesterDay, she's exuded extremely strong evil vibes and I have yet to figure out way. But it should be noted that she's also a late Mac voter. edit: x-ed since my last post.
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Also, I realise that I suspected Zil based on his first post toDay because he immediately suggested wolf-on-wolf and Lommy on her first post toDay because she immediately focused on the opposite.
But I think immediately focusing on Hui-voters in the first post of the Day when there are definitely guilty Mac-voters seems like misdirection. On the other hand, Lommy saying that it's basically impossible makes me uneasy because it does seem like an option, just not the most obvious one. edit: x-ed with Mac
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Anyway, I'll be gone for a while (and it looks like I might need to vote before the QT vote comes through), so:
Keen to vote Zil Boro Sally Don't need much persuading to vote: Lommy Lalaith Could vote THE Ka Rune Might need some persuading, but could vote in a pinch Shasta (would like to see him explain himself first) Mac (We would probably learn a lot, and I'm not sure of his innocence - I just don't suspect him as much as the others on this list)
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Had my vote mattered, I do think I probably would have voted for Huin over Mac simply because I preferred the company - I had vastly more reads on the Huin voters, for good and ill, over the Mac voters.
In response to Eonwe - you did basically the same thing, bruh. You and I were the last to vote. In my case, I was watching the votes basically be a perfect tie and thinking "well these reactions are gonna be interesting." I didn't have a good enough read on either Huin or Mac to warrant specifically saving one or the other, and I didn't have an evil-enough read to warrant condemning one or the other, so I was concentrating more on the voters than the votees.
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band·wag·on | \ ˈband-ˌwa-gən \
1 : a usually ornate and high wagon for a band of musicians especially in a circus parade 2 : a popular party, faction, or cause that attracts growing support —often used in such phrases as jump on the bandwagon 3 : a current or fashionable trend Shamelessly copy-pasted from The Merriam Webster dictionary, emphasis mine. I made that comment after seeing a few posts implying that the first vote starts a bandwagon. Taken in isolation, one vote has no support, let alone a growing support. More often than not, unless they're very flimsily reasoned, we don't analyse first votes as throw-aways or wolf-on-wolf (but then again, why not, but that's an altogether different topic). I've always been of the belief that a bandwagon starts the moment another person jumps on it. We start really analysing votes the moment they start gaining momentum towards a successful lynch. Brinn, however, made a good point here: Quote:
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With 5 wolves I'm not discounting a wolf on wolf even after the Huitrain started to gain serious steam (that did seem to come off left field didn't it?). But based on the voting alone I'm inclined to think Leggie innocent, it doesn't seem reasonable for a wolf to offer his packmate up to be sacrificed when he wasn't in real danger of getting lynched, or to try to convince others to vote for him. Also, I'm not sure why Shasta appears innocent for holding his vote. It looked incredibly fishy to me, but I probably need a deeper reading for context. I'll do more in-depth analyses once I'm done with work. Last edited by Lhunardawen; 05-08-2020 at 09:25 PM. Reason: crossposted with Shasta, of all people. also fixed quotes |
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I'm going to take a look at those falling under my radar. It's already late, so I don't know if I'll get to everyone tonight, or heck even toDay...it's hard to keep up with all the posts. I took a look at the last couple games I played and we ended on Day 6-7 at around 20 pages. It's only Day 3 and we're already at page 17! Is this just a really talkative group or pandemic boredom? Okay, so first.. The Ka from yesterDay: In post#426, she wonders why Mac wants attention on him and who would benefit. Later she says... Quote:
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I should make some summary or something because I keep reading people and thinking half of everything people say looks fishy, which does not bode well.
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Just overall: it's very nice how some people say "there are WWs unlikely to be in first half of Huiwagon" (Lottie) or equally dogmatically "there are WWs likely to be in the first half of Huiwagon" (Eönwë) or "there has to be a Wolf among Huiwagon" (Lommy) - point is, there doesn't have to be anything anywhere, still, in this big village. I am wondering about Brinn and the first Day Brinnwagon and everything related to it. It seems clear that Hui stayed off it, and his generic behaviour is sort of avoidant (not naming too many suspects, being friendly where he could, etc.). Can it point to some pattern in his behaviour in relation to his voting strategy? Meaning, are those he voted likely to be innocent? (We know G55 was "innocent", in the sense, she was a non-Wolf.) And could Brinn be his packmate? Knowing myself, I am unlikely to make a conclusive statement after I re-read his posts once again, but I will try. (I promise not to post a novel on it though, because it's been here many times already. I find it good however that everyone is trying to do their own maths.)
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As a sidenote, "I think there's a wolf deep inside it" also sounds like it could be the case of a Wolf randomly telling the truth. (If we took it literally, it would have to be Pitch, Ka or Rune, who had participated in the Brinnwagon before Hui said this. But it could also have been just a second-hand way to potentially use against Rikae - the one who started the Brinnwagon and is now known innocent - later, if it was needed.)
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If it ends with me not getting lynched, sure.
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Sally looks very furry to me right now. She did before, her vote was the worst, and her apologetic attitude toDay is not helping her cause at all. Fishy fishy lupine fish. Eönwë - I did consider it very likely that there isn't much wolf-on-wolf in the Huinewagon, but I wasn't as adamant about it as you claim. And if you read my subsequent post where I analysed the votes, I actually do point out which Huine votes look the most wolf-on-wolf to me (Brinn and especially Lalaith). That being said, I absolutely stand with my assesment that when we have evidence of people having voted in way that prevents a wolf lynch (again, slightly dependent on Mac's role though), I don't think we should focus on those who did the opposite. I'm not for giving the Huine voters a pass idefinitely, but I am giving them a pass for toDay. And those whose vote was particularly unwolfily placed, probably for a few more Days than that. I would advise you to do the same. There are a lot of people in this village and to a degree, you've got to pick who you focus on. Quote:
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Both of you please explain what you're referring to (ie what aspect of "what happened with Mac yesterDay" are you referring to - quite a lot happened with Mac yesterday. )
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05-09-2020, 04:58 AM | #673 | |
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So, I pondered in the night that one thing this game has highlighted, is that both innocents and wolves can slip up.
Kit's late-night blurt at G55's false ranger reveal, and then (which most of us failed to spot) Huey's wolf email slip... I've been thinking Emails With Wolves sounds like quite a low-key sequel to Dances with Wolves... Brinn: Quote:
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05-09-2020, 05:01 AM | #674 | |
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Whatever Shasta may be, I have to admire his style.
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05-09-2020, 05:03 AM | #675 |
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Another thing: I have, like a lot of people, been thinking about wolf-on-wolf voting, and with two specific questions in mind:
1. Does Legate's first vote for Hui mean that I was wrong to suspect him yesterDay? 2. Does Hui's 3rd vote for Mac point to his (Mac's) innocence? Another thing then crossed my mind. Would the fact that a dead wolf ensures that the baddie vote now dominates the QT, make wolves less reluctant to lynch each other? After all, this means the packmate can continue to be useful and push their agenda elsewhere...
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05-09-2020, 05:13 AM | #676 | |
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From my view, just that he got a lot of votes but someone else got lynched.
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05-09-2020, 05:18 AM | #677 | |
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2. Not necessarily. I still say with five wolves they could afford to be a bit reckless voting one another. As far as the QT goes, as long as we here know their vote is decided by wolves, we won't put any confidence in it. And really, having to be in well before our DL reduces the weight it might otherwise carry.
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05-09-2020, 05:21 AM | #678 | |
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But let's make sure we differentiate properly here, as it's about small nuances: i.e. it is still obviously preferrable for the WWs not to get any of them lynched, ever, at all. They may just be a bit less reluctant to Wolf-on-Wolf vote than they would otherwise be. But nothing more, nothing less. It definitely does not mean that they would be eager to do so.
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1) Legate being first to vote Huin in itself wouldn't be enough to absolve him, as he could have been counting on Mac being a certain lynch regardless of what he did. But this isn't what it sounded like at all. He checked first whether others would like to join him in voting Huin and only did so after a few others had expressed interest, and later egged others on to vote Huin. If wolf-on-wolf, this would be not only very brutal (not just throwing someone under the bus but actually inviting more buses to come along) but also quite unnecessary; why would Legate throw in a fairly under-the-radar fellow when he himself wasn't even suspected that much and didn't need the brownie points? So I'm inclined to leave Legate alone for the time being. 2) Not necessarily in my opinion - as I recall, it already looked like it was going to be between the two of them, and it's possible he decided to turn wolf-on-wolf to make whoever survived look better. I still think there's some merit to Lottie's point about it being somewhat unlikely that both of our major bandwagons yesterDay were against wolves, as we still had five wolves in play and at least some of them probably would rather have voted for an innocent than a packmate. Even given how last-minute the Huinwagon was, Inzil, Lommy and Lottie had also been voted, and Brinn was discussed. So if Huin and Mac were both wolves, I would have expected more of a push towards another candidate from their unknown packmates since there were other options on the table too.
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Now something today about Eonwe didn't sit right and I went back over his posts. This is what I found.
YesterDay, Eonwe makes two posts drawing attention to the interaction betwen Shasta and Kit the second wondering if they are an infector pair Then: Eonwe, 5.23pm yesterDay (my italics) Quote:
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Really. This does not look good.
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