T-I-G LVI: Panic at the Prancing Pony

[satansaloser2005]

I have a confession to make. Kit's been lying in the narrations all along.


I am the seer.

I am the ranger.

I am Ferny.

I am the cobbler.

I am the opera ghost.

I am the werebear.

I am the lover. *giggles as Emily, being the saucepan goose, agrees with this statement*

(Luke) I am your father.

I am a shirrifff.

I am a necromancer.

I am your representative. ("I believe in Sally". Buttons available on ebay.)

I am the Chaotic Neutral Wizard.

I am an agent of chaos. (Introduce a little anarchy. Vote for the moddess.)

I am the (happy) Medium.

I am the Hunter. (Actually, that's my computer's name, but meh.)

I am the village prostitute.

I am the Balrog of Spring. (But I'm coming out with a fall line soon.)

I am the Walrus. (goo goo g'joob)

[satansaloser2005]

Brinn-->Sally at 8:38am
Menel-->Sally at 9:19am
Rikae-->Sally at 9:41am
Nerwen-->Sally at 10:06am
Berrie-->Sally at 10:07am
Legate-->Sally at 12:23pm
Greenie-->Sally at 2:40pm
Rune-->Sally at 3:16pm
Lommie-->Brinn at 3:16pm
Legate-->Brinn at 4:19pm

retraction of Legate-->Sally at 12:23pm

Agan-->Brinn at 4:21pm
Berrie-->Brinn at 4:26pm

retraction of Berrie-->Sally at 10:07am

Rikae-->Brinn at 5:31pm

retraction of Rikae-->Sally at 9:41am

Mira-->Brinn at 8:46pm
Mac-->Brinn at 10:37pm
Lari-->Sally at 10:43pm
Nerwen-->Brinn at 10:52pm

retraction of Nerwen-->Sally at 10:06am

Deadline of 12am, wraiths and innocents. Yes, this probably will be the extent of my helpfulness for the Day. I'm a nice girl, but I'm also evil. Be prepared.

[satansaloser2005]

Oh, come on people, post something!



No? Okay, you asked for it. *laughs maniacally*

[satansaloser2005]

SALLY:
(spoken) Dearest darlingest Brinnie and Gwathie-poo:

LOMMIE:
(spoken) My dear Ranger:

BOTH:
There's been some confusion
Over voting in the game

LOMMIE:
But of course, I'll dream of wolvsies

SALLY:
But of course, I'll kill around it

BOTH:
For I know that's how you'd want me to respond
(Spoken) Yes
There's been some confusion
For you see, the new girl is

SALLY:
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar
And completely determined to lynch me

LOMMIE:
American.

SALLY:
What is this feeling,
So sudden and new?

LOMMIE:
I felt the moment
I laid eyes on you;

SALLY:
My claws are growing;

LOMMIE:
My dreams revealing;

SALLY:
The blood is flowing;

BOTH:
What is this feeling?
Fervid as a flame,
Does it have a name?
Yes! Voting
Unadulterated....near hate

SALLY:
For your posts

LOMMIE:
Your pic

SALLY:
Your Legate

BOTH:
Let's just say - I loathe it all
Ev'ry little post, however small
Makes my very flesh begin to crawl
With simple utter loathing
There's a strange exhilaration
In such total detestation
It's so pure, so strong!
Though I do admit it came on fast
Still I do believe that it can last
And I will be voting
Voting you
The whole game long!

WRAITH CHORUS:
Dearest Sally, you are just too good
How do you stand it? I don't think I could!
She's a dreamer! She's a neat one!
We don't mean to show a bias,
But, poor Sally, you're in deep, hun!

SALLY:
Well, these seers are sent to try us!

WRAITHS:
Poor lil Sally, forced out of control
By someone who's so good at her role
And to think that you were
So close to your goal!

WRAITHS:
We share your loathing
Unadulterated loathing
For her posts, her dreams, her voting
let's just say - we loathe it all
ev'ry little hint however fake
makes our very fur begin to shake

....
....
....
....

LOMMIE:
Dreamt!

SALLY:
CRAP!

[satansaloser2005]

Fine then. I'm off to do some homework, then to bed. I'm taking requests, by the way. And don't worry, I have lots more goodies for you!

*toddles off for now*

[satansaloser2005]

A is for Agan, who is always evil, no matter what.

B is for Beregond, who is also evil, but only because I say so and, as you know, I am currently one of the three top-rated experts on such matters.

C is for CailinEomer, who are not even in the game but are, believe it or not, wolves. Wraiths, whatever. Point is, they're evil.

D is for Durie whose role was a lie. She's really the village lynch fodder, who seems incredibly innocent yet is able to get lynched without the loud annoying wolf (that's me) having any sort of a hand in it. Poor kid.

E is for Eon. (See S for Steve.)

F is for Fea, who just keeps getting screwed over game after game. It makes me giggle muchly. I'm pretty sure she's sitting somewhere reading the game and rooting for the baddies. Serves you all right. *hugs her*

G is for Gwathie-poo. That is all. (Oh, and for Greenie, but I couldn't think of a good joke for her right off the spot)

H is for Hookbill the Goomba, who is amazing, just because he can be. That is also all.

I is for I'm going to bed. I'll continue this little lesson in the alphabet later, I assure you. And then maybe I'll do some stats!! :P

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Poor Lommy. Now, couldn't the Ranger have protected her... it's possible he couldn't.

But anyway, at least toDay's lynch is clear. But what about the next Days?

We have one known innocent - that'd be Mac.

What else? We should not just sit around and do nothing, even though toDay's vote is clear, yet toMorrow, we will be once again forced to make a choice of our own.

I know, I am tempted not to do anything either. But I guess I will force myself to take a look at least on somebody.

For example, who do you think is Mr.Underhill? We now have TWO wolves there, one of them being a former innocent.

(And Sally is being silly, but funny. )

[Meneltarmacil]

I'm going to be busy with studying and other things today, so I'll record my vote now:

++Sally

[Aganzir]

Ouch. Poor Lommy.

Some comments on yesterday.

I hate being suspicious of Mac all the time, especially as he's a known innocent now (unless he's the cobbler, of which I would not be very surprised, to be honest), but I don't like his lists yesterday. It isn't of much help if you list what people have done earlier and judge them by that. For example he didn't say a word about Greenie's yesterday behaviour but found her innocent only based on her interaction with the wolves on previous days, before the RB was turned.
Also, I don't understand his suggestion concerning Rikae. What do you mean with lack of sharpness? Because I haven't seen any.

I'm not overly fond of Lari's vote for sally after points had been brought up about Brinn's death being better, but she had little chance to save her, and I don't know if she would have been so obvious if she's a wolf, too.

**

++ sally

Legate, frustrating as it is I don't think we can assume Mac innocent just because Lommy dreamt of him. He could still be Ferny.

I was planning to take a look at Greenie but I think I'll wait till she posts a bit more. Also, Lari might be worth a look.

[Lariren Shadow]

Oh Lommy

But we do know who to lynch at least.

So

++Sally

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Legate, frustrating as it is I don't think we can assume Mac innocent just because Lommy dreamt of him. He could still be Ferny.

I know. But what we are clear on is, and what I meant to say, that he cannot be a Wraith by any means. That leaves less people to choose from.

Well, let's put it this way. We have one Wolf from start and one Wolf from yesterDay. YesterDay, the Wolves could not yet plot together at Night, but they likely already were informed of each other's identity. I suggest we talk even toDay. As much as we can. So that it does not look toMorrow like Day 1 all over again.

And,

++Sally

Off to read older posts - trying to look for the third Wolf, at least. Or for Frodo.

[satansaloser2005]

Be Prepared (for the reign of the wolf, precious)
[all Ferny's bits in parentheses]

I never thought a cobbler essential
Just an ordo who's not to be slain
But Ferny's got a glimmer of potential
If allied to my vision and brain

I know that his powers of retention
Are as wet as a penguin's backside
Useful though you are, pay attention
My words are a matter of pride

It's clear from your suggestions for night kills
The lights are not all on upstairs
But we're talking lyches and victory
Your options are far beyond compare

So prepare for a chance of a lifetime
Be prepared for sensational news
A victory's at hand, our ally
And where do you feature?
Just listen to Sally

I know it sounds sordid
But you'll be rewarded
When at last the village is dead
And the wraiths shall triumph again
Be prepared!

It's great that you'll soon be connected
With a team who'll be all-time adored

Of course, quid pro quo, you're expected
To take certain duties on board
The future is littered with prizes
And though we'll be victorious
The point that I must emphasize is
You won't get the ring without us!

So prepare for the game of the century
(Oooh!)
Be prepared for the murkiest scam
(Oooh... La! La! La!)
Meticulous planning
(I'll survive!)
Tenacity spanning
(Stay alive!)
Decades of denial
(I repeat!)
Is simply why we'll
(My heart'll still beat!)
Be winners unchallenged
(Aaaaaaah...)
Brinn's (and Sally's) death avenged
(...aaaaaaah...)
And seen for the wonder we are
(...aaaaaaah!)
Yes, my teeth and ambitions are bared
(Oo-oo-oo-oo-oo-oo-oo)
Be prepared!

Yes, our teeth and ambitions are bared
Be prepared!

[Macalaure]

The formality first:

++Sally

It sucks we couldn't get another dream out of Lommy. I agree with Legate, it's quite possible that she was already protected last night.

Originally Posted by Aganzir

I hate being suspicious of Mac all the time, especially as he's a known innocent now (unless he's the cobbler, of which I would not be very surprised, to be honest), but I don't like his lists yesterday. It isn't of much help if you list what people have done earlier and judge them by that. For example he didn't say a word about Greenie's yesterday behaviour but found her innocent only based on her interaction with the wolves on previous days, before the RB was turned.

I did judge them by what they said yesterDay, too, but I don't find Lily's behaviour yesterDay suspicious. I did concentrate on the original wraith, because I think it was too early yesterDay to really find out Frodo. Since toDay it is easy to get away with little posting (we should look after those who try to), it might be that only toMorrow we will have actual clues. I hope the ranger will do a better job on me...

I have four people left to look at toDay, and I will use the same approach.

Originally Posted by Sally

It's clear from your suggestions for night kills
The lights are not all on upstairs

I know I probably shouldn't even talk about her toDay, but this seems to imply that Ferny only gave them the names of ordos, if not of the wraiths themselves yet. Not that we can deduce anything from that, but it's good to know s/he's useless (at least in that aspect). Of course, Sally could just be joking...

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Sally

I am the Walrus. (goo goo g'joob)

I almost posted that yesterday.

For that, you die!

++Sally

Now, I have something useful I want to do toDay (make a certain chart of everybody still living and what they did in various situations), but first I want to attend to grad school business, so it'll be a while.

Something I want to say about the old ball and chain... ahem... better half, I mean:

if he is Ferny, the wraiths almost certainly know it (remember his "send own name on night 2" business?) and won't kill him. If he isn't dead soon, (soon enough that we avoid the risk of an evil vote from him ruining everything for the village) he needs to go.

*searches Ebay for a stylish black dress*



More about everybody else later.

[Aganzir]

I can't help being bothered by this comment in Lari's first post:

As for my sign I am a Sagittarius which actually does say a lot more about me than it should.

Shasta had just said the baddies are under the influence of Fire and Sagittarius is a Fire sign. It looks awfully much like a hint, either to Ferny or the wraiths.

She suggested Frodo should reveal soonish so we could lynch xem. I still don't understand why Frodo should have been lynched if xe had revealed. It would have been a waste of both a lynch & a known innocent.
She also seemed to assume, though, that the ranger can protect the same person every night. Well yes if she had said it later than on day 1, it'd make her look more innocent, but I don't know how likely it is that the wolves discuss the ranger's qualities already on night 1, before the game has even started, so I'd assume it's an honest mistake regardless of her role.

She concluded Ferny is not a threat at all, just an annoying player, as xe doesn't know the roles of the people xe passes on. I disagree. If the seer dreamt of Ferny, she saw xem as an innocent, which means xe'd be more or less trusted as long as xe is alive. And if alive for long enough, Ferny can be of considerable help to the wolves.

On day 1 Lari considered voting me ("she will never trust me again"), Fea ("who doesn't like a good Fea vote on day 1?"), Dury (the fact that her character was a ranger made Lari think it'd be interesting if Kit had made her a wolf), or Lommy ("for reasons stated before"). Okay it was day 1 but still those reasons look a bit strange, especially the last two. It just doesn't make much sense that she considered voting Dury because of that.
As for Lommy, the reasons stated before were apparently stated by others as I don't think Lari herself talked about Lommy. Shasta voted Lom because of her voting me, Mira voted her because her flip-flopping bothered her, Dury because she found her sneaky. But that's pretty much all. So what reasons were you talking about, Lari?

On the other hand, she did forget Brinn from her list. This would point towards her being innocent at least then. Or then it's a bluff, but somehow it doesn't look like so. Although I guess it's possible, though very unlikely, that a wolf would forget to include her fellow...
She had sally listed as a No Idea, but she specifically mentioned she was watching her (but nothing had happened yet). Out of the six people on the list, she elaborated only on her and Gollum. I think it looks a bit like a wraith-on-wraith comment.

She wanted to prevent a double lynch (despite not being sure if they're even possible) and voted Dur. Mac had 4 votes, Brinn & Lommy 3, Gollum 2, she and me 1. She could have voted Lommy or me, who she had said she could consider, as it was almost an hour till deadline and several people were still to vote/retract.
Hmm a bit later she said her vote was pretty much random, and by preventing a double lynch she meant not voting Lommy.

**

Then day 2.

Lari agreed with Mira that the end of day 1 was suspicious. She could understand Mac but found some others suspicious. So, what was actually suspicious about it? Mac wanted to save himself and others didn't want to kill him either. Also, by voting someone who already had votes she could have contributed to the outcome of the lynch.
Later she talked more about the voting, vaguely accusing Mac also of suspecting only three people, and Nerwen because of her vote. What was suspicious about her vote then?

She also thought Nog's criticism towards day 1 votes was weird. I can agree because I found it strange as well.

Okay another list. Nothing had caught her eye about sally, who seemed genuinely innocent. Brinn seemed innocent enough, too - nothing jumped out. I can't accuse her of finding Brinn innocent because I did, too.
However her summary includes quite many "could be or could be not" people.
She was suspicious of Rikae (didn't like her seer/Frodo bantering), me (playing it rather interestingly. What did you mean with that?), Nerwen (didn't like her vote), and Mac (not entirely innocent because of trying to save himself).

She didn't have anything on Durelin, apart from thinking Kit could have made her a wolf & not liking her first post. In her next post she suggested Dury could be Frodo trying to join the wraith team by impersonating the ranger.
She wondered why so many seemingly wanted to lynch Fea and added that she wasn't defending her. If Fea had turned out to be a baddie, it wouldn't look very good on her, but now I guess it's just that she really didn't understand it.
In the end she voted Durelin since she thought Kit would have made her a wolf because of her character. She didn't mention anything about accusations of Dury's ranger show, which I think was the major reason she was suspected in the first place. I don't really like her vote. Especially as we don't know how Kit picked the roles.

**

Day 3.

She asked if Nog's death could be an attempt to frame Fea, and added that of course we should look at Fea nonetheless. Well yes Fea was framed. It's possible she's an innocent speculating or a wraith giving off something from their nightly plotting.

Also, Lari suggested me & Lommy's quarrel could be a way to cover our wolfishness. It wasn't, it's just us playing together (luckily our brawls never affect our RL relationship - we are friends again once we log out).

She said she's fine with lynching Fea, but would maybe want to lynch Mac (been saved twice) or Rikae (something in her posts makes her wonder) even more. Well Mac is not a wolf and I'm feeling pretty good about Rikae as well (I don't think she's looked wolfish even after the RB was turned). Also, if the wolves thought Fea was the cobbler, they might have wanted to lynch someone else. It's impossible to say if they did think so, though, as they have information about the cobbler that we other's don't.
Greenie accused Lari of trying to save Fea with her Dur vote but it doesn't really matter because Fea was innocent.

Then Lari asked if the wolves get a new kill if their original target is protected. I admit this is a fairly innocent-looking question.
She also noted that if the seer dreamt of Ferny, the result was an ordo.

When Mac noted how Lari went from defending Fea to being neutral towards her to being okay with lynching her quite quickly, she responded by saying she doesn't want to die. According to her, there was a high chance it'd be between her and Fea. I don't see it quite like that. Fea was so suspected that it was practically impossible someone else had been lynched, while wolves tend to overestimate suspicions against them.

Okay then she's suspicious of Mac and Rune (who was intentionally a part of the Dury bandwagon & wanted to save Fea). Originally she was suspicious of Mac for being saved from lynching. I do agree that Mac is suspicious but he can't be anything worse than the cobbler, and those seem to be rather weak reasons for such constant suspicion, anyway.

Okay then there's some confusion about Ferny, which also makes Lari look more innocent because the cobbler is certainly a thing the wolves have been talking about even if they didn't discuss the ranger.

Originally Posted by Lari

And what if Fea turns out to be innocent? How does that look for me? Who then looks bad? Rune for defending her? Mac and Rikae for pointing out quickly that she could be Ferny?

Somehow this comment looks quite fishy to me. Like, she's in a way making herself look better and swaying suspicion towards others she's suspicious of. Can't explain it better.

In #563 she listed who she could vote for - Fea, Rune, and Mac. She was the least confident about Fea but everyone else thought her guilty. Voted Mac, who made lists which showed only a few people guilty. I don't really see what's suspicious in that.

**

Day 4, after the RB turning into a wraith & the seer reveals.

Lari has 37 posts, only three of which she has written yesterday or today.

She claimed she didn't know what to think of the seer reveals as both Lomz & Brinn listed two known dead innocents and each other. Mac was on Lommy's list too.
This is rather interesting because Mac had been one of her main suspects and now she accidentally calls him a known innocent.

Originally Posted by Lari

While she did leave the comment in her post about rings, would it be so impossible for the wolves/wraiths to turn Frodo and then throw Frodo to us in a way to save themselves?

What did you mean with this?

She voted sally, saying she seemed like a safe bet, although by then the general consensus seemed to be that Brinn was a better target as her death would remove all confusion about the seer.

**

And today when she just voted sally.

**

I don't know what to make of her earlier posts. She seemed rather suspicious at times and very innocent at others and it's really impossible for me to say anything.

However I think she could be Frodo. Well she started posting much less once Frodo was turned, but that could also be because of some RL hurries. However that Mac slip doesn't look innocent. If she wasn't sure who to trust, why did she call Mac a known innocent?
She being Frodo might also explain that weird Sagittarius comment on day 1. She might have wanted to leave a hint for the wolves, although that isn't very straightforward.

**

Sorry this is so long, I don't know what has happened to me.

[Aganzir]

sally that's simply awesome!

Originally Posted by Macalaure

I did concentrate on the original wraith, because I think it was too early yesterDay to really find out Frodo.

Why? When you posted those lists, everyone alive had already posted. Okay it's true there might not have been enough information to incriminate anyone, but still. Was it too early to even try?

Originally Posted by Mac

Not that we can deduce anything from that, but it's good to know s/he's useless (at least in that aspect).

This comment really made me laugh.

Originally Posted by Rikae

if he is Ferny, the wraiths almost certainly know it (remember his "send own name on night 2" business?) and won't kill him. If he isn't dead soon, (soon enough that we avoid the risk of an evil vote from him ruining everything for the village) he needs to go.

I thought about that too yesterday, but found it better not to mention it as I thought the wraiths could force us to lynch a known innocent by just leaving him alive even if he is not the cobbler.

I realised I forgot to check Lari's interaction with sally & Brinn when making my analysis. Off to do it now.

[Aganzir]

Just at the beginning of day 1 sally said that clearly our top suspects are Lari & Gollum as she found the body and he is a weapons expert.
On day 1 Lari was one of Brinn's several voting options. Sally, on the other hand said she wouldn't vote Lari. Nothing she had said had looked suspicious and especially as I had said that my vote was random, she hoped no one would go along with it. I'd imagine she wanted to keep a bit more distance if Lari was her fellow but I don't know.

On day 2 Brinn made some wishy-washy statements about Lari, saying her vote was throwaway but it actually isn't that suspicious, and nothing about Lari jumps at her but she's wary because she played a brilliant wolf last game. She was listed as a No Clue.

On day 3 Brinn said that Lari's defences seem shoddy. Especially she seemed to find it weird that Lari was concerned about being voted. She was listed as suspicious, along with Fea and sally. Somehow I doubt Brinn would have suspected both her fellows like that, given that Lommy was already suspicious of her and sally. Why bring the last wolf under the spotlight?

Okay and then it's day 4 and it's impossible to say anything anymore as Lommy had already come out when Brinn & sally started posting.
On her last list Brinn listed Lari as Not sure, but I rather doubt we can make anything of that list.

I find it quite unlikely now that Lari is a normal wraith. It just doesn't make sense that Brinn would have labeled both her and sally guilty, especially as her own survival was still uncertain, what with Lommy breathing on her neck.

I don't know why the wraiths would have gone after Lari, either, as I think she started to be suspected to some extent. Unless they had a strong reason to assume she was Frodo and wanted to turn her before she got to reveal. I didn't see anything that could have indicated that, though, besides maybe the Sagittarius comment.

Now I'm off to do something else.

[Macalaure]

A (sobering) thought about Frodo before I start looking closely at Mirandir and Rune (and continue cleaning up the mess the kids made in the kitchen): his wraithification couldn't have happened at a better time. It is just too obvious what Frodo had to do yesterDay and toDay. Unless he was foolish, he did not question Lommy's claim and went with Brinn or Sally instantly (could have actually voted later, of course). ToDay, it's voting Sally and looking decently helpful (or having an excuse not to be). ToMorrow, two days will have passed since his switch, and with everything that will have happened in between, you can pretty much innocentish-lookingly justify any change in opinion. A change in behaviour is really all we can look for, unless Frodo made a mistake, but changes in behaviour are difficult to detect and it's easy to accidentally lynch an innocent for it.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Not much have happened today I see. . .

I am feeling much better now, but is still sleeping alot of the time...I don't think I have the energy to read through the posts of last day, so I will focuse my energy on what happens today.

obviously it is not chritical that I contribute a great deal to day, but I think I have to contribute a bit in order not to loose touch with the game.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

A (sobering) thought about Frodo before I start looking closely at Mirandir and Rune (and continue cleaning up the mess the kids made in the kitchen): his wraithification couldn't have happened at a better time.

Originally Posted by Macalaure

It is just too obvious what Frodo had to do yesterDay and toDay. Unless he was foolish, he did not question Lommy's claim and went with Brinn or Sally instantly (could have actually voted later, of course). ToDay, it's voting Sally and looking decently helpful (or having an excuse not to be). ToMorrow, two days will have passed since his switch, and with everything that will have happened in between, you can pretty much innocentish-lookingly justify any change in opinion. A change in behaviour is really all we can look for, unless Frodo made a mistake, but changes in behaviour are difficult to detect and it's easy to accidentally lynch an innocent for it.

You used British spellings. As we all know, anyone who's not American doesn't have his head screwed on properly.

...What? I'm going to die anyway, may as well die for as many different reasons as possible!


EDIT: yes, this post is Emily too. Just for clarification's sake.

[satansaloser2005]

Seriously, don't read it. It is intended to deliberately waste your time, flood the thread, and otherwise make your life more difficult. If you dislike this, well, maybe you shouldn't have all retracted your votes yesterday.

I am letting you know this to give you sufficient warning when this and subsequent madness ensues.

*foams at the mouth*

Oh, and I am not sally. Hmm... maybe I should write a memoir and call it that... then rerelease it years later with the title "I am sally"... and then "I am not not sally"

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Just a few random thoghts:

Legate and Aganzir seems very innocent, in the way that I agree with most of what they say and that they in genneral do not seem to fabricate cases.

Menel plays like he always do, he does not leave much for you to analyse on and is very hard judge. I guess I get a mostly innocent feel from him, but that is often the case with the more silent players. (unless it is people who normally talk alot)

[satansaloser2005]

It's really quite simple, O Breelanders. Allow me to explain my logic.

Frodo was stabbed in the night. By the morning he became a wraith. Now, with all other things remaining constant, if this were book!Frodo there would have been enough of a fight for him not to be stabbed in the heart, no? And if so we would have about thirteen days before he was actually turned. But we know narration-wise that this is NOT, I repeat, NOT the case, and that it happened in about 12 hours or so instead. Moreover no cries of "A Elbereth Gilthoniel!" were heard in the night, only strange "Aaaaaack" sort of noises.

Therefore I posit that our Ringbearer is NOT book!Frodo, but his Jacksonian counterpart, who was even more wussy than normal and thus didn't hold out long enough for Arwen: Warrior Princess to get some extra screentime.

So: which among you has luminous blue eyes that make everyone else want to get lost in your Impending Victimhood?

[A Little Green]

Here at last. I thought I'd have nothing special to do today but apparently I had since now is the first time I got anywhere near a computer (that was not occupied by a certain Lomzy).

First of all,

++Sally

Then to other business. I had some ideas at the end of yesterDay but I've probably forgotten them by now. List coming up.

Is there anyone around? I'd like a chat with someone.


EDIT: x-ed with Sally

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by A Little Green

Is there anyone around? I'd like a chat with someone.

OOH! OOH! PICK ME! PICK ME!

[A Little Green]

Sally - wraith.
Lari - I'm flip-flopping about her a lot. One minute I suspect her, the other I find her innocent.
Mira - No idea.
Leggy - Seems very innocent this far.
Rikae - Seems innocent, but could also be a bold and brilliant wolf. I'd love to have a look at her but I'm afraid that's too big a task for me tonight.
Aganzir - Seems innocent.
Gondie - Nothing alarming.
Nerwen - No idea.
Rune - Seems innocent.
Mac - Innocent / Ferny. I find it more likely that he's innocent.
Menel - No read whatsoever. I could look at him tonight, since checking through his posting won't be as huge a task as checking Rikae...

*Off to read*

[satansaloser2005]

This is the post that goes into the gamethread.
This is the gamethread, so this is where it goes,
Has nothing to do with the gameplay, so I'll say--
Hey, hey, hey-hey hey hey hey hey!

I used to make a post that went into the gamethread
That went with the gameplay, but this is not that post.
Has nothing to do with the gameplay, so I'll say--
Hey, hey, hey-hey hey hey hey hey!

Wouldn't it be nice if this post, within the gamethread
Had something to do with the game that you are in?
But that's not the case, so for now I'll have to say--
Hey, hey, hey-hey hey hey hey hey!

There ought to be a rule that the posts within a gamethread
Remotely pertain to the game's basic plot!
That rule has not been made*, so for now I'll have to say--
Hey, hey, hey-hey hey hey hey hey!


















DISCLAIMER:
Actually, it has, at least outside of the game. Please don't Skwerl me, Esty. *wibble*

[satansaloser2005]

The next post will be an experimental one, pertaining to the basic state of the Human Condition and the Journey* of Mankind.


*pronounced "Jeeeeeeeeeeeuuuuuurney"

[satansaloser2005]

_

[Macalaure]

Mirandir

In #92 she's one of the few to defend me after my supposed Ferny slip. The only others to do so was Rikae (explicably) and the next day wraith Brinn. This could either mean nothing, or that she's a wraith who thought I'm Ferny, or that she's Ferny thinking she got a hint from the wraiths.

Not to further the idea that Lari and I are aligned, but I have a tendency to play devil's advocate.

This could be interpreted as a cobbler hint. If so, then maybe she thought Lari was a wraith. She voted Lommy in the end, which, as Aganzir said, points against her being a wraith.

On Day2, she gives a shady opinion on Brinniel. In the same post she encourages discussion about the ranger. This is something that could have happened to a newbie ordo, but it looks suspicious nevertheless. She also says that Fea can confuse people and later willingly lets herself be confused. What if the cobbler had the idea that Fea was a wraith at this point? S/he would act like Mirandir did.

Later she goes after Rune and votes for him.

Her response to Agan's case looks innocentish. #678, however, could be interpreted as a slip. She votes for Brinn.


What she's been doing could easily point toward a newbie ordo. However, a lot would fit in with cobblerdom just too neatly. Her guilt would make Rune look good.

[A Little Green]

(Analysis on Menel, my comments in italics.)

DAY 1

- In-character jokes, jesting about his tendency to get lynched early, Frodo should reveal but not on Day 1 or 2, Ferny = someone gathering information but not letting us in on it

- Aganzir not suspicious, agrees with her that Frodo should not be our primary concern, Mac ”a major puzzle”

- Not voting Nog, Agan or Brinn because they make sense, votes Mac with this:

Originally Posted by Menel

Macalaure may be stumbling over the fact that he's a wraith and can't twist the villagers' words into anything suspicious, as his last list gives mostly "innocent" and "no clue".

You'll see later why I posted the quote.

DAY 2

- Still suspecting Mac because of his ongoing suspicion of Gollum. Says that the seer should not be openly discussed because it endangers him/her even though it also might help to protect him/her.

- Says that if Fea was suggesting lynching Mac he'd be in for it.

- Clarifies his suspicion of Mac, saying that he was suspicious of him because Mac suspected Gollum throughout Day1 and not only in the end.
Wait... He said earlier he suspected Mac because of Gollum's lynch, but if Mac had indeed suspected him for the whole Day it shouldn't be surprising he wants him lynched.

- Has been checking out Aganzir because wants to focus on others than Mac, says she appears innocent but doesn't have much ideas on what to do and concentrates a lot on Nog. Says that a lack of suggestions should not define one as a wraith since he has no idea what to look for. Speculates that either Rikae or Mac might be a wraith since they are confusing the village. Votes Mac.
This post is one of the most eyebrow-raising ones I found. First of all, if (at least on Day 1) Agan was one of the three people he didn't suspect then why did he choose to check her and not someone else? That thing about lack of suggestions not being a sign of wraithism is also weird since he voted Mac on Day one for exactly that...

- Answers to why he keeps suspecting Mac:

Actually, it's not about revenge, craziness, being a wraith, or anything else, Mac. It's just that I really have no idea what to do, found a few odd things in your posts, and can't figure out anything else.

I'm sorry, really.

DAY 3

- Says Fea is hovering between helpful and mysterious, was strange on Day 1 because she said she'd look at Sally but looked at Brinn instead and suspected her with no reason. Says Fea's role in the Dury bandwagon was suspicious because it came out of nowhere and led to an innocent dying. Says he is wary of Fea.

- A sort of list. Not suspicious: Agan, Brinn and Legate, Suspicious: Mac (Ferny comment, Gollum's lynch) and Fea (reasons that are obvious for everyone), Rikae to a lesser extent (seer things), can't decide between Mac and Fea.
I am bothered by how easy his suspicions and also his non-suspicions are.

- Rolls the dice to decide between Mac and Fea, votes Mac.
Note: he votes Mac for the third time in a row.

DAY 4

- Reaction to Lommy and Brinn's reveals:

Originally Posted by Menel

A sneaky one you are, Lommy. And Brinn, I always figured you were on our side.
Well, Sally is evil, we can all agree on that. And by tomorrow we'll know another person's role. I'd suggest looking at Mac during the next Night phase, but that's just me.

Lists everyone except Brinn, Lommy, Sally and himself as possible wraiths. Votes Sally.
First of all, maybe it's because Brinn was a wolf but I don't like how he believes Brinn and not Lommy. I'd understand it if he said "I don't know who to believe, I'm more inclined to believe Brinn" or something like that, but it looks like he's dead certain Brinn tells the truth.

Originally Posted by Menel

One thing I'm wondering about: If Brinn is a wraith, which I definitely consider possible, why does she also mention Sally as a wraith? And why would a Lommywraith point the finger at her fellow wraith Sally if she wants to sow confusion?

This whole thing just seems wrong.

And now he considers it possible that Brinn is a wraith, when in the post before this he is so certain of Brinn being the real seer?

- After the general consensus, so to speak, had all but decided that Brinn would be a better lynch candidate than Sally:

I'll let my Sally vote stand for now, as I can be reasonably sure she's a wraith. This seer business should clear itself up soon enough when we see who the wolves try to kill.

Says that the only one who really has to worry about the seer's identity at this point is the ranger.
His insistence of voting Sally instead of Brinn is weird. It could be a wolf trying to save the one of his fellows who might still stand a chance of survival.

DAY 5

Says he'll be busy today. Votes Sally.


CONCLUSIONS?

Menel has done some eyebrow-rising stuff (eg. his suspecting Mac so persistently with the reasons changing along the way, and also his reactions to the seer reveals, the way he keeps talking only about a small number of people, and flying under the general radar (of which we others may be to blame more than he is)). I'm glad I checked him. He seems somewhat suspicious on the basis of what I have read, and I'll be having a much tighter eye on him from now on. He's easy to let slip by unnoticed since he mostly posts relatively short posts every now and then, but I at least won't be doing than anymore.

[satansaloser2005]

NEW MEMBER:
Good Morning.
SALLY:
Good Morning, sir. Welcome to the Barrow-Downs.
NEW MEMBER:
Ah, thank you my good lass.
SALLY:
What can I do for you, sir?
NEW MEMBER:
Well, I was, uh, sitting in the public library on New Row just now, skimming through “The Shibboleth of Feanor” by our dear Professor, and I suddenly came over all cutthroat.
SALLY:
Cutthroat, sir?
NEW MEMBER:
Belligerent.
SALLY:
Eh?
NEW MEMBER:
(In a broad Yorkshire accent) Eee I were all bloodthirsty, like.
SALLY:
Ah, bloodthirsty.
NEW MEMBER:
In a nutshell. And I thought to myself, 'a little strategic game will do the trick'. So I curtailed my Tolkienian activites, sallied forth, and infiltrated your place of recreation to negotiate the lynching of some hapless denizen.
SALLY:
Come again?
NEW MEMBER:
I want to play Werewolf.
SALLY:
Oh, I thought you were complaining about the duck in the corner there.
NEW MEMBER:
Oh, heaven forbid. I am one who delights in all manifestations of the Anatid Family.
SALLY:
Sorry?
NEW MEMBER:
(In a broad Yorkshire accent) Ooo, I like a nice duckie.
SALLY:
So she can go on quacking, can she?
NEW MEMBER:
Most certainly. Now then, some candidates please, my good man.
SALLY:
Certainly, sir. Whom would you like to vote for?
NEW MEMBER:
Well, eh, how about a little Thinlomien?
SALLY:
I'm afraid we're fresh out of Lommy, sir.
NEW MEMBER:
Oh never mind, how are you on Fea?
SALLY:
I'm afraid we never have her at the end of the week, sir. We lynch her fresh on Monday.
NEW MEMBER:
Tish tish. No matter. Well, stout yeoman, one vote for mormegil, if you please.
SALLY:
Ah. He's been on order, sir, for two weeks. I was expecting him this morning.
NEW MEMBER:
It's not my lucky day, is it? Er, Cailin?
SALLY:
Sorry, sir.
NEW MEMBER:
Eomer?
SALLY:
Normally, sir, yes. Today the van broke down.
NEW MEMBER:
Ah. Mithalwen?
SALLY:
Sorry.
NEW MEMBER:
Rikae? Macalaure?
SALLY:
No.
NEW MEMBER:
Any Finnish Noggie, per chance?
SALLY:
No.
NEW MEMBER:
Thenamir?
SALLY:
No.
NEW MEMBER:
Holbytlass?
SALLY:
No.
NEW MEMBER:
Fordim Hedgethistle?
SALLY:
No.
NEW MEMBER:
Danish Rune?
SALLY:
No.
NEW MEMBER:
littlemanpoet?
SALLY:
..... No.
NEW MEMBER:
the guy who be short?
SALLY:
No.
NEW MEMBER:
The Saucepan Man?
SALLY:
No.
NEW MEMBER:
alatar, Legate, Morthoron, William Cloud Hickli(n), Sauron the White, wilwarin, davem, Lalwende, Hookbill?
SALLY:
No.
NEW MEMBER:
The Barrow Wight, perhaps?
SALLY:
Ah! We have The Barrow Wight, yes sir.
NEW MEMBER:
You do! Excellent.
SALLY:
Yes, sir. He’s, ah ..... he's a bit invisible.
NEW MEMBER:
Oh, I like them invisible.
SALLY:
Well, he's very invisible, actually, sir.
NEW MEMBER:
No matter. Fetch hither le mod of this great site! M-mmm!
SALLY:
I think he's a bit more invisible than you'll like, sir.
NEW MEMBER:
I don't care how invisible he is. Hand him over with all speed.
SALLY:
Oh .....
NEW MEMBER:
What now?
SALLY:
The duck's eaten him.
NEW MEMBER:
Has he?
SALLY:
She, sir.

(pause)
NEW MEMBER:
Diamond18?
SALLY:
No.
NEW MEMBER:
Roa_Aoife?
SALLY:
No.
NEW MEMBER:
Durelin?
SALLY:
No.
NEW MEMBER:
piosenniel?
SALLY:
No.
NEW MEMBER:
Nilpaurion Felagund?
SALLY:
No, sir.
NEW MEMBER:
You do have some villagers, do you?
SALLY:
Of course, sir. It's a discussion forum, sir. We've got .....
NEW MEMBER:
No, no, don't tell me. I'm keen to guess.
SALLY:
Fair enough.
NEW MEMBER:
Er, sally?
SALLY:
Yes?
NEW MEMBER:
Ah, well, I'll cast a vote for her.
SALLY:
Oh, I thought you were talking to me, sir. Miss sally, that's my name.

(pause)
NEW MEMBER:
lindil?
SALLY:
Ah, not as such.
NEW MEMBER:
Er, Bethberry?
SALLY:
No.
NEW MEMBER:
Sharku?
SALLY:
No.
NEW MEMBER:
Squatter of Amon Rudh?
SALLY:
No.
NEW MEMBER:
burrahobbit?
SALLY:
No.
NEW MEMBER:
Folwren?
SALLY:
No.
NEW MEMBER:
Ibrinidhilpathanazel?
SALLY:
No.
NEW MEMBER:
legolasluvvver_13_andahalf?.
SALLY:
Not today, sir, no.

(pause)
NEW MEMBER:
Ah, how about phantom?
SALLY:
Well, we don't get much call for him around here, sir.
NEW MEMBER:
Not much ca- He's the single most popular member in the world!
SALLY:
Not round here, sir.
NEW MEMBER:
And who is the most popular member round here?
SALLY:
Alien, sir.
NEW MEMBER:
Is he.
SALLY:
Oh yes, sir. He’s staggeringly popular in this manor, squire.
NEW MEMBER:
Is he.
SALLY:
He's our number-one top rep-ee, sir.
NEW MEMBER:
I see. Ah, Alien, eh?
SALLY:
Right, sir.
NEW MEMBER:
All right. Okay. Have you got him, he asked, expecting the answer no?
SALLY:
I'll have a look, sir ..... nnnnnnooooooooo.
NEW MEMBER:
It's not much of a Werewolf game, is it?
SALLY:
Finest in the district, sir.
NEW MEMBER:
Explain the logic underlying that conclusion, please.
SALLY:
Well, it's so clean, sir.
NEW MEMBER:
It's certainly uncontaminated by villagers.
SALLY:
You haven't asked me about Boromir88, sir.
NEW MEMBER:
Is it worth it?
SALLY:
Could be.
NEW MEMBER:
Have you- SHUT THAT BLOODY DUCK UP!
SALLY:
(To Emily) Told you so.
NEW MEMBER:
Have you got Boromir88?
SALLY:
No.
NEW MEMBER:
That figures. Predictable really, I suppose. It was an act of purest optimism to have posed the question in the first place. Tell me:
SALLY:
Yes, sir?
NEW MEMBER:
Have you in fact got any villagers here at all?
SALLY:
Yes, sir.
NEW MEMBER:
Really?

(pause)
SALLY:
No. Not really, sir.
NEW MEMBER:
You haven't.
SALLY:
No, sir, not a scrap. I was deliberately wasting your time, sir.
NEW MEMBER:
Well, I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to shoot you.
SALLY:
Right-O, sir.
NEW MEMBER:
(Shoots her) What a senseless waste of human life.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Rikae

if he is Ferny, the wraiths almost certainly know it (remember his "send own name on night 2" business?) and won't kill him. If he isn't dead soon, (soon enough that we avoid the risk of an evil vote from him ruining everything for the village) he needs to go.

Originally Posted by Aganzir

I thought about that too yesterday, but found it better not to mention it as I thought the wraiths could force us to lynch a known innocent by just leaving him alive even if he is not the cobbler.

Eexactly. I was thinking just the same. Okay, but let me say it aloud when it's been said already. I would have said more, but of course one cannot say it now, because if something happened later it might be influenced by that and what... okay, forget it. What I want to say now: in my opinion, sometimes it looks like Mr. Mac is a Cobbler, but then, it may be that he is not and I cannot really say one or the other. In either case, even if it came to that, I suggest we leave any lynching him or such only for very late, as much late as possible, or not at all - because he (or now we can speak in any Cobbler in general) still counts as an Ordo, and unless he knows more than we do, he should not be that great threat until really very late. The fact is just that we have one Cobbler here, and should count on it when voting. Thus, voting with as much care as we can.

But at least for a few days, I think... Mac will likely be targeted and possibly killed. I think we can guess about Cobblers everywhere, but a given innocent is a given innocent, he narrows our choices on who the Wolves might be.

Originally Posted by Macalaure

It is just too obvious what Frodo had to do yesterDay and toDay. Unless he was foolish, he did not question Lommy's claim and went with Brinn or Sally instantly (could have actually voted later, of course). ToDay, it's voting Sally and looking decently helpful (or having an excuse not to be). ToMorrow, two days will have passed since his switch, and with everything that will have happened in between, you can pretty much innocentish-lookingly justify any change in opinion. A change in behaviour is really all we can look for, unless Frodo made a mistake, but changes in behaviour are difficult to detect and it's easy to accidentally lynch an innocent for it.

Yes, exactly. However, let us bear in mind that even switching your role can kind of change your mentality, even subconsciously. You start to behave differently. You have to react to people. What better, you have to interact in a certain way with your fellow Wolf (like, writing if you find him suspicious or not or whatever). For this reason, I strongly suggest that everybody states his opinion on all people, publicly, so that we may guess something from it. It's easier to catch a Frodo with unsincere behavior in his posts about people.

And he won't have to be unsincere just about his companion, but about all of us, of course - as he will know that we all are innocent, but an ordo of course would not be sure.

[Mirandir]

Looks like toDay's lynch won't be of much debate...Oh well. I do highly enjoy having sally around for entertainment's sake (the Be Prepared parody pretty much made my day), but alas it is time for the wraith to go.

++sally

EDIT: Oh my. I just realized how suspicious being sad about lynching wraith looks. Keep in mind that it's not because she's a wraith, but rather a source of entertainment (after all, were else would we get such scintillating literary wonders as "10001 ways to kill Sally, part the first" and the like?) Consider it amusement for a very bored and very tired library employee with no motivation to do actual work.

[Mirandir]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

And he won't have to be unsincere just about his companion, but about all of us, of course - as he will know that we all are innocent, but an ordo of course would not be sure.

Huh? I was with you up until this point. That could just be because I'm ridiculously tired at the moment, but could you explain please? Sorry to be a pain.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Alright I have decided to do one of those popular lists, hopefully it will h


Legate of Amon Lanc: I have very hard time picturing Legate as a wraith
Rikae : What pussles me about Rikae is her case against Fea, it would be very daring of a wraith to go so determently after a singly person, but Rikae is a very bold woman who can twist many situations to her advantage.
Aganzir: As I said before she seems very reasonable and innocent. . . last time I played with her I found her very annoying and slightly suspicous and she turned out innocent. hmmm. . . I am hoping that it is because her style changes from game to game.
Beregond : Beregond is one of those people that I just don't notice, I cannot remember one single post he has made. . .Obviously this is not his fault, it is probably me who should focus more broadly.
Nerwen : I always feel a bit uneasy about her, she always seems sneaky. . .but I have nothing on her right now.
Macalaure: The only person I really had a case against and felt was most likely a wraith. Just my luck that he should turn out to be innocent, I could see him as the cobbler though. . .but the cobbler is not a person we should hunt, lets hobe the wraiths take care of their helper by mistake.
Meneltarmacil: As i said just before, he is playing more or less like I remember him playing in earlier games, but I have to admit that Little Green do have a few points in her accusations against him.
A Little Green: I am constantly flip floping between finding her posts very innocent looking and finding them slightly wraithish, I really can't tell.
Lariren Shadow - The same as little green
Mirandir - The same as Little Green

So the conclusion must be that Legate, Mac and Aganzir are not people I consider lynch candidates at the moment.

EDIT: Cross posted with Legate and Mirandir

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

I know I have promised to look deeper at some other posts, but alas, I was distracted by other matters, so I cannot give you any lengthy analyses, as I hoped. But for now, at least when it comes to people:

The list didn't change much since yesterDay (not that there was much to go with):

I trust:
A Little Green - her posting seems really sincere, I can't say much more to that.

I tend to trust:
Aganzir - more or less, she is not doing anything suspicious. I know, I know. She is always looking innocent.

Macalaure - is a known innocent. Enough for us. He is not a Wraith.

Rikae - is behaving so innocently, and sometimes so much anti-Macalaure and such... that it makes me wonder a bit... though for now... I hope that further days will clear things up (or not)

I tend to have no idea:

Nerwen - I was just wondering if she cannot be a sneaky Wolf, a bit flying (Wolf? FLYING? No, wait - that's a wraith. What? Wraith? FLYING? THE NAZGUL HAVE CROSSED THE RIVER!
RIDE, RIDE! WAIT NOT FOR THE DAWN! LET NOT THE SWIFT WAIT FOR THE SLOW! RIDE!!!) under the radar, but heck, she seems genuine, her posting seems genuine... err, whatever. In fact, I tend to trust her more than let's say Rikae... Rikae I trust more on the rational basis, for what she does (although lately...), that she says sensible things... Nerwen... oh well.

I have no idea:

Lariren Shadow
Mirandir

I wonder about:

Beregond - he seems like an innocent newbie. But like I said, sometimes it looks like it could be a Wolf newbie. Well, as with everybody else - and here with double importance - I want to see what is his posting going to be like toMorrow and further.

Rune Son of Bjarne - sometimes he looks okay, sometimes with a question mark of wolfishness - I would like to see what it is going to be like in the future.

Meneltarmacil - after reading Greenie's analysis I need to look at him in particular once again myself, but my general impression of him was rather innocent. True, I should perhaps reevaluate. From Greenie's post, though, it occured to me - isn't it rather possible for him being the Cobbler?

EDIT: x-ed since first Mira and with Rune

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Mirandir

EDIT: Oh my. I just realized how suspicious being sad about lynching wraith looks. Keep in mind that it's not because she's a wraith, but rather a source of entertainment (after all, were else would we get such scintillating literary wonders as "10001 ways to kill Sally, part the first" and the like?) Consider it amusement for a very bored and very tired library employee with no motivation to do actual work.

YES! MY Plan IS SUCCEEDING!

*realizes village is still going to lynch her*

...What? How dare you question the cunningness of my cunning plan???

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

I thought about that too yesterday, but found it better not to mention it as I thought the wraiths could force us to lynch a known innocent by just leaving him alive even if he is not the cobbler.

In my research, I just came across something that makes me more sure we needn't worry about that:

“Now while Mac was trying to save himself, upon looking it over again I think it was more of an innocent Mac trying to save himself while the wraiths took advantage of it.” - Sally, Day 2 (after voting Mac on Day 1)

She goes on defending him after that.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Mirandir

Looks like toDay's lynch won't be of much debate...Oh well. I do highly enjoy having sally around for entertainment's sake (the Be Prepared parody pretty much made my day), but alas it is time for the wraith to go.

++sally

EDIT: Oh my. I just realized how suspicious being sad about lynching wraith looks. Keep in mind that it's not because she's a wraith, but rather a source of entertainment (after all, were else would we get such scintillating literary wonders as "10001 ways to kill Sally, part the first" and the like?) Consider it amusement for a very bored and very tired library employee with no motivation to do actual work.

I am quoting the whole post, as in this context the "edit" part looks quite innocentish. Even a newbie wraith (or recently turned Mr. Baggins), I believe, won't be as careless to say something like that?

Originally Posted by Mirandir

Huh? I was with you up until this point. That could just be because I'm ridiculously tired at the moment, but could you explain please? Sorry to be a pain.

Well, it's simple. The Wraith is pretending to be an innocent. But he differs from the innocents in two aspects: a) he knows who the Wraiths are, so when writing about a Wraith, he does not have the innocent's point of view: he knows he is writing about a Wraith. And likewise, b) he knows who the Innocents are, too: so even when writing about an Innocent, he does not have a true Innocent's point of view. This is what can be noticed on his posts. Understood now?

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

Alright I have decided to do one of those popular lists, hopefully it will h

Yea, hopefully it will.

Rikae : What pussles me about Rikae is her case against Fea, it would be very daring of a wraith to go so determently after a singly person, but Rikae is a very bold woman who can twist many situations to her advantage.

Now that you mention it... I wonder if it is possible that Rikae-wolf would have picked a "right horse" in seeing the general meaning likely to be aroused against Fea (or even Mac, for that matter, there was something similar going on)... in the sense, you know, that it was not just her who was going after her, there was also me who had said something like that even as early as Day 1 (that she could be a Cobbler or something), then Rikae sort of supported that... perhaps she as a Wolf could have hoped that I (I am saying that with all modesty) could be influential enough to make people follow my meaning (supported by hers) and make more people join the cause? Of course, it was not just me, but also others... but in general: if she could have picked upon these people, and lead the lynching mob against an Innocent, so to say? I really wonder... That is some food for thought, at least.

(EDIT: x-ed with Rikae)

...or perhaps I am just getting paranoid