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Old 02-17-2003, 12:40 PM   #281
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hi my name is Lathriel. I made up the name Lathriel for this short story I am writing and I rather took a liking to it so it has become my user name. I am well on my way to reading LOTR once every year and I have also read the Silmarillion though it took a while.Anyway this is a great site. Just what I ma looking for.
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Old 02-17-2003, 01:30 PM   #282
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Hello everybody,

I don't believe I fully introduced myself. The name is Helkahothion, but friends can call me Anuion. I am mostly found on the RPG section and in the Middle-Earth myhem section. This kinda means I like clowning arround and Pio get's crazy of my off topic posts. And I am shure that she is not the only one. I am always open to answer questions so don't be scared to knock on the door. I won't bite. (hard)

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Old 02-18-2003, 08:04 PM   #283
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Hello fellow LotR fanatics! It's nice to find a place where your accepted. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] My name is Haelothiel, I'm usually looking for good fanfiction (which is at times VERY hard to find!) I try to write myself, but I never finish what I sta-
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Old 02-18-2003, 10:35 PM   #284
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Hey, I'm a new guy that just joined after reading good things about the serious nature of this board. I often post at TWC as well, under a local username... I look forward to contributing. (and I needed to check my sig so I am posting here.)
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Old 02-19-2003, 04:01 AM   #285
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Hi, Ive been here for ages but I didnt register, so I decided to....*some text missing*
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Old 02-19-2003, 08:34 AM   #286
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Hello Lathriel, Haelothiel, Adanadhel and Kili. Welcome to the Downs and happy haunting. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Adanadhel, do I detect from your sig that you are a fan of the Kinks? I like the adaptation. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

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Old 02-19-2003, 10:42 AM   #287
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Hey all newcomers! I'm still kinda new here myself, but I've already introduced myself. Anyway, Welcome to the Downs! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
p.s. This is for anybody, pm me sometime. I like meeting new people.

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Old 02-19-2003, 11:17 AM   #288
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Good morning, BDer's! My name is Bloodchannel, and I come from Minas Tirith!
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Old 02-19-2003, 12:16 PM   #289
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Adanedhel and Bloodchannel, your names are both familiar to me. Welcome to the Barrow-Downs and enjoy yourselves!
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Old 02-19-2003, 12:46 PM   #290
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Mithadan,

Make sure you are not confusing me with someone else though - AdanEdhel is taken on most boards, so I have been using AdanAdhel...
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Old 02-19-2003, 01:13 PM   #291
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Actually my sig is the best way to identify me. Yes, it is the kinks song reworked. It started out as a joke, then just expanded. I reowrked the whole song on another board (TWC). It is amazing how well it fits when just a few words are changed!
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Old 02-19-2003, 08:28 PM   #292
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hi. i'm new. what else? that's all, i guess. awesome site!
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Old 02-20-2003, 03:21 PM   #293
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Hey, my name is Mirkiin!(im a girl by the way) [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Im really happy!!!
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Old 02-20-2003, 03:38 PM   #294
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Hey, Mirkiin! I like your avatar!
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Old 02-20-2003, 07:49 PM   #295
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I'm new! [jumps up and down] So far, this site looks complicated, but that's only compared to what I'm used to. I LOVE RPGing...and Merry and Pippin are my main characters, for LOTR role-play. [which, I suppose, is the only category on this board, hmm? ^_^;] Anyway...how are we supposed to get an avatar?...
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Old 02-21-2003, 04:39 PM   #296
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hello, im new, and only have Nuinatariel to help me, but I love LotR. Thanks for seeing this!! Ahhh, and thank you, Nuinatariel!!
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Old 02-21-2003, 05:07 PM   #297
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Greetings! I'm new here, obviously. I'm just checking out the site and what I see so far is great!

I've just started doing a Lord Of The Rings book study with some of my friends and am looking for some questions to ask. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Old 02-21-2003, 10:13 PM   #298
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Ask away, McDLT-
I am a newbie here, but so many of us appear to have read extensively into Tolkien's works that I am certain you will find an erudite response to most of your questions!
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Old 02-21-2003, 10:29 PM   #299
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Hi, I'm new here. I took the Name Generator and my result is Stuttering Istari. Stuttering !! But I think about it again, and agree, I always have difficulties spelling those elves' name, and I'm not an English speaking, so be it .. Stuttering ..
Btw, I'm a mother with three kids, and live in Indonesia (quite far East from Middle Earth, isn't it ?)
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Old 02-21-2003, 10:46 PM   #300
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I'm new to this sight. I've been a Tolkien fan for a little over a year. I've read LotR twice and I'm working on my second reading of the Silmarillion. I chose the name Lśthien because the story of Beren and Lśthien is one of my favorites. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
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Old 02-21-2003, 11:04 PM   #301
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The tale of Beren and Luthien has always been one of my favorites as well- Welcome, Luthien!~
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Old 02-22-2003, 02:16 AM   #302
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The moniker Stuttering Istari is priceless [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] . To Stuttering and all the rest, welcome.
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Old 02-22-2003, 01:30 PM   #303
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I've been here for awhile... I like to read these discussions on this awesome forum, but I myself hardly ever post. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

I've never introduced myself here, so now I am! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Anyways, my name is Betho... and no, I'm not an actual hog (read paragraph below), and I'm *sniff* only 13... I feel so young here! Gahhh...

(If you don't get my user name, Betho is my nickname ((my bro nicknamed me that...)) and HOG stands for House Of God, which is what my real name, Bethany, means.)

I found this site through my friend, who introduced me to the Name Generator, and because I was absolutely fascinated with that, I looked around the site more, found the forum, and decided to register, so... here I am! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] (Wowee, long sentence...)

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Old 02-22-2003, 01:33 PM   #304
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Your not the youngest though! I to am 13 (though i like to think a mature 13 [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] )

Welcome to the downs! Enjoy your stay!
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Old 02-22-2003, 01:34 PM   #305
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Yay! I'm not the only 13 year old! Whee! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
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Old 02-22-2003, 04:27 PM   #306
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I'm 13, too. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Hello, everyone! Hope you all enjoy being dead! I am now going to sit here and smile at all the confused reponses I get from the new people who don't know what that means. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]
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Old 02-22-2003, 08:04 PM   #307
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I have a thing for magical old men. I met Gandalf and Merlin about 30 years ago, but I've known Santa Claus my whole life. I've lurked around as a guest for about a year or so. Finally decided to join and contribute. --Imladrien
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Old 02-22-2003, 08:40 PM   #308
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Hello Newbees [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
Welcome to the Barrow Downs
Here are just a few tips:
Read the FAQ at the top of the Novices and Newcomers section, this will answer many questions including things about avatars, and stuff like that.
Remember to always stay on topic
Remember to always talk about Tolkien related topics

Well those are just a few good things to know
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Old 02-22-2003, 10:38 PM   #309
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My name is Quelledaewen and I am new here. This is such a great web site and I LOVE The Lord of the Rings. I have read it many times, hoping that it would be made into a movie. Peter Jackson has done a great job. I'm looking forward to getting to know everyone on this board.
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Old 02-22-2003, 11:14 PM   #310
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Hello everyone, and welcome to the Downs. Do what Gorwingel says, and you won't be hunted by the mods. Post well.

Btw, I'm thirteen as well. And two months. And...nine days. So don't feel like you're the youngest person here, and no one will mind anyway as long as you post on topic and intelligently. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Lots of love and God bless you all.

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Old 02-23-2003, 01:19 AM   #311
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And yet another new thirteen year old person. Have read all the books about three times (I'm pathetic aren't I..so few times...), and have a certain fondness for Faramir, Eowyn, Elrond, Celeborn, Erestor (don't ask)...actually, I have a fondness for all of Tolkien's characters...Anyways, and I've also read the Silmarillion (twice) and UT (well, most of it *tries to look innocent*)..and I have Lost Tales Volume I right next to me (literally).

I loved both of PJ's films, simply adored the Fellowship, was disappointed at Two Towers because of, what I think of anyways, as Faramir's character assasination.

Well, anyways, this ought to be a very interesting forum..
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Welcome, Morchaint!

I've read the LOTR once. I've read various bits twice - like Book II of FOTR - and some three times - like most of the TT. I've read part of the Silmarillion. Aren't the UT the same as the Silm? I was under the impression they were...and I've read Leaf by Niggle and Smith of Wooton Major. And part of the Return of the Shadow. Although I like all of these, I like an intelligent debate most of all. Especially about something Tolkien-related, which is why I love this forum so much.

And I've seen FOTR countless times, and I dislike PJ's portayal of Faramir in TTT.

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I discovered this site a couple of days ago. It is so great to find a LotR site without having to fight my way through hordes of Nazgirls. I've been a Tolkein fan since a friend loaned me a copy of "The Hobbit" in 1966. I'm embarrassed to say how many times I've read the books, and seen both movies. I have never participated in any chat rooms or discussion boards, so if I make any faux pas, accept my apologies in advance.
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Well, I thought I was "young" because whenever someone mentioned their age, it was usually... uhh, older than me... if you get what I mean. O_O
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Old 02-24-2003, 12:39 AM   #316
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You mean, either about 18 or older? I know, I know...but if you look closely, there are also people who are the same age as you.

Davin, don't be mean.

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Old 02-24-2003, 06:37 PM   #317
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Hi! I've been lurking on here for a few weeks and just started posting. I've been a fan of LotR since my dad read the books to me. (I was six; that was 16 years ago now.) I love PJ's movies, but was so glad to find a place where people are interested in discussing the books themselves as well.

This site is really incredible, and I thus spend way too much time here. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

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Hi! I'm Kate's Frodo, because Kate introduced me to LotR. I'm working on the Silmarillion now. This site is SO COOL; I know a little about computers, so I partially understand all the work that goes into this place. I'm the only person I know who liked Viggo better than than Orlando in the movies. Well, that's me! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]
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No, I have seen other Viggo fans floating around. I like him better that Orlando too, not that that says much...

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P.S. Oh, and welcome both of you! I hope you enjoy the forum. Post well.
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Welcome Quelledaewen, morchaint, Imladrien, Anborn, Lśthien, Stuttering Istari, McDLT, Balrog Skwerl, Master_of_Buckland, Mirkiin, Airelondeiel, Alatįriėl, Carorėiel, and Kates Frodo Temp to the Downs!!

I am also a HUGE Viggo fan, Kates Frodo, and I also thought I was alone.

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And for all of the newbies: PLEASE POST!!! It's really fun to get into the discussions, but it gets really boring if nobody replies. I haven't been on the Downs for even 2 weeks, but I'm almost a Wight!!!
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