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Old 06-04-2007, 12:40 PM   #1
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Tolkien How old did Faramir live to be?

I can't find anything in The Tale of Years. Does anybody know Faramir's death date?
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Old 06-04-2007, 12:52 PM   #2
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He died in 3103 ( Fourth Age 82 ) Born in T.A.year 2983.
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He died in 3103 ( Fourth Age 82 ) Born in T.A.year 2983.
And Ewoyn?
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Old 06-05-2007, 06:23 AM   #4
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The date of her death is nowhere recorded.
Though if we speculate that she lived about as long as her brother Eomer, then she probably died somewhere around 60-70 IV.
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Old 06-05-2007, 09:51 AM   #5
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He died in 3103 ( Fourth Age 82 ) Born in T.A.year 2983.
Thanks! All due respect, I know what year he was born in.

Where did you find this? The Tale of Years? Letters? UT?
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Thanks! All due respect, I know what year he was born in.

Where did you find this? The Tale of Years? Letters? UT?
I figured that. I just added his birthdate for anyone else who might be looking and want to know.

And where I got it, I don't own any of those books so I have some web sites that I have to use.

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The date of Faramir's death appears in the "Ruling Stewards of Gondor", HoME XII.
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Old 06-05-2007, 03:39 PM   #8
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I don't doubt I'll get reprimanded for this but, I see that after I assisted MatthewM with his little problem that a most kind person nicely told me (along with a pretty little red squre) to get the books because “most websites are trash” but did not seem willing to state their user name (I wonder why…) although maybe I shouldn’t be to hard, after all perhaps they did not take into consideration that not everyone has the resources to get all the books that they would like… Makes my day to see something when I get this for helping.

Btw, to who ever you are, I know that a lot of Tolkien websites are not great, but there are some that are unbelievably well put together and vast resources. I don't appreciate that you seem to think me so stupid and naive.

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Here’s an interesting essay from another site

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Old 06-05-2007, 05:48 PM   #9
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I don't doubt I'll get reprimanded for this but, I see that after I assisted MatthewM with his little problem that a most kind person nicely told me (along with a pretty little red squre) to get the books because “most websites are trash” but did not seem willing to state their user name (I wonder why…) although maybe I shouldn’t be to hard, after all perhaps they did not take into consideration that not everyone has the resources to get all the books that they would like… Makes my day to see something when I get this for helping.
I hope you didn't take my post in a mean way, because "MatthewM and his little problem" strikes me as a negative throw at me. I didn't mean any offense, at any rate.

And it wasn't a problem, by the way. It's called a question.
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Old 06-05-2007, 06:14 PM   #10
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I hope you didn't take my post in a mean way, because "MatthewM and his little problem" strikes me as a negative throw at me. I didn't mean any offense, at any rate.

And it wasn't a problem, by the way. It's called a question.
No I didn't mean you at all, sorry if It came of that way.

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I can't find anything in The Tale of Years. Does anybody know Faramir's death date?

Yes it's a question, but you don't have the answer and you are looking for assistance becuse you can't find it, so I think you could also say it's a small or little problem.

In retrospect maybe I should have pm'd one of the mods about this, but it's a little late for that now.
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Old 06-06-2007, 10:18 AM   #11
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Yes it's a question, but you don't have the answer and you are looking for assistance becuse you can't find it, so I think you could also say it's a small or little problem.
My friend, it's a question, it isn't a problem. My life would not have been affected if I did or did not learn of Faramir's death date.
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Old 06-07-2007, 09:56 AM   #12
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I think the problem is... Both of you are using a the word problem in a different way. Beleg mean problem as in a math question, which is often if not always called a math problem. MatthewM is thinking of a problem in the more complex/dangerous way.

Of course, I am just jumping to conclusions over what you think, and also I am butting into a conversation, but I didn't want either of you to think badly of eachother, so I felt it my duty to explain, since I thought I might have the answer to the question.
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It seems the Downers have the special and interesting ability of changing any thread, no matter how banal the topic is, into a real discussion...
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Old 06-07-2007, 01:27 PM   #14
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Well, MatthewMs first question was answered, so why not?
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I don't know if this is a good place to ask, but we are on the subject..

Are quick question threads closed once their questions are answered? Will this thread be eventually shut down?
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