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Old 04-30-2007, 06:38 AM   #41
Selmo
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Classical Protestantism believes in the doctrine of "sola gratia"-- through grace alone. This is, in fact, one of the great dividing lines theologically between Catholics and Protestants. Catholics hold that Faith AND Works are necessary to get into Heaven. It is not enough just to believe, if you truly believe, you must DO.
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I think that the Protestant belief in "through Grace alone" is a bit of an over-simplification.
I'm a Protestant, of the British Methodist variety, and like most Protestants I can say that "Salvation is through Grace alone - but Works are also needed." (I know it's not logical but Faith and Logic don't always mix well.)

The criteria for membership of the Methodist Church of Great Britain as stated in the 1932 Deed of Union: All those who confess Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour and accept the obligation to serve him in the life of the Church and the world are welcome as members of the Methodist Church. (My emphasis)

At least some protestants believe that Works are more than just desirable.

Thanks for the input from a Catholic viewpoint. I'll now have to re-read Leaf by Niggle with fresh eyes.
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Old 04-30-2007, 08:48 AM   #42
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(I know it's not logical but Faith and Logic don't always mix well.)
You see, here's the problem. Faith and Logic should mix well. They should harmonize. That they don't means that Christians aren't thinking clearly. We really need to stop that.

Just as works were absolutely essential to Niggle, so they are for Niggle's readers. Check out that letter from James sometime.
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