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++ Ar-Pharazon
This show is in some desperate need of some ego trimming.
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I've decided to vote today:
++the Bullroarer Down with golf! The votes so far : Bullroarer - 3 Tar-Miriel - 1 Princess Pam - 3 Alf - 1 Ar-Pharazon - 4 Quote:
 When I decided on a time to start and end the day I thought 2 would be the best time for me, but things keep happening that mess it up. Half the time it's things I never planned on. Sorry that it's keeping you from voting.
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08-14-2006, 09:56 AM
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++Ar-Pharazon
He tried to invade Valinor. That was not only wrong, it was also foolish.
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08-14-2006, 10:02 AM
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Despite Bullroarer's heroics defending the Shire
one can't ignore his role in creating one of the most boring games around (along with soccer and tennis). So: + + Bandobras Took a.k.a. The Bullroarer
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08-14-2006, 10:32 AM
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I am no fan of golf, but I think that people are concentrating rather too much on the by-product of the Bullroarer's achievement, rather than the achievement itself.
This amazing Hobbit succeeded, with what was no doubt not much more than a band of glorified Shirriffs, in routing, yes routing, a Goblin invasion of the Shire and, in so doing, clove Golfimbul's head clean off. That's is quite an achievement for a Hobbit. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that he ranks among the most heroic Hobbits of all time. The invention of the tedious game of golf rather pales into insignificance when one considers these facts. Besides, he has one of the greatest names of all. Ar-Pharazon, on the other hand, has no redeeming features. Vain and ambitious, he brought nothing but ruin to his people. In comparison with a Hobbit who was the saviour of his people, there would seem to me to be no contest. + + AR-PHARAZON
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08-14-2006, 10:34 AM
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I'll just continue and vote the hobbit out.
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08-14-2006, 10:42 AM
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08-14-2006, 10:51 AM
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okay seems we wont be able to get rid of some minor this time so
--Princess Pam ++Ar-Pharazon While Im not impressed with golf, I dont see anything THAT bad at it either... plus the original game has a certain flair - I wouldnt mind a game with orcs. (& I agree with The Saucepan Man that its mean to judge the character just by the game) And Ar-Pharazon is just an idiot, scuse my french.
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08-14-2006, 11:04 AM
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One further question to consider.
Who would you rather have as the leader of your nation? One who sees off a band of cruel invaders and incidentally invents the game of golf, or one whose vain ambitions bring a catastrophic flood upon your land, thereby destroying it? You can ignore golf, but you can't ignore a bloomin' great tidal wave!
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08-14-2006, 11:24 AM
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Wilwa, you ignored either my or Beth´s Manwe vote day before yesterday. Probably mine.
 As for today I´ll be delighted to join the Ar-Pharazon bandwaggon. For what he did to Tar-Miriel, there can be no forgiveness. + + Ar-Pharazon
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08-14-2006, 12:34 PM
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Sorry I'm late.
Votes for today: Bullroarer - 5 Tar-Miriel - 1 Princess Pam - 2 Alf - 1 Ar-Pharazon - 8 Ar-Pharazon stood and started to walk away from the tribal council. After only taking a few steps, the council heard large crashing from the distance. Suddenly a large, robot giraffe (Wayne's idea  ) stomped past the tribal council, and stepped on Ar-Pharazon in the process.Thus ends Day 7! The remaining contestants: From the Lord of the Rings Survivor Merry Gimli Hama Gandalf Arwen From the Silmarillion Survivor Sauron Elbereth Osse Ingwe From the Hobbit Survivor Smaug The Bullroarer Gloin Durin Bofur From the Second Age Survivor Tar-Miriel Celebrian Thorondor Tar-Aldarion From the Minor Works Survivor Chrysophylax Dives Goldberry Alf the Prentice, King of Faerie Perry-the-Winkle Princess Pam *************************************** You may now start voting! Sorry Lalaith if I missed your vote, but Manwe is out now, so I don't see how it really effects the game. But sorry anyway, I'll slow down when I count the votes.
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08-14-2006, 12:45 PM
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We should thin out one of the groups who still have 5. That is minor works, LOTR, and The Hobbit. I suggest we keep Bullroarer as he is fairly interesting, for a hobbit. Merry on the other hand is rather obnoxious, he can't take orders and without Pippin he's kind of like David Spade without Chris Farley--Useless.
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08-14-2006, 12:53 PM
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Mormegil, you're wrong. I was almost ready to have a ceasefire concerning Bullroarer, but obviously I can't do it now.
Merry is useless without Pippin? Tell that to Éowyn, or to the Witch-King. Merry is one of the most sympathic characters Tolkien ever wrote. He's funny, but can be serious. In his own way he's wise, and he's friendly. And of the hobbits I've always preferred his attitude and sense of humour. Let's not vote him. If we want to get rid of one pair of furry feet, let's lynch Bullroarer. Really, he's only a war heroe, there's no other aspect to him (except the golf most people here seem to disapprove). We know nearly nothing of his personality or life. Why to support an unknown nobody, who's only famous for hacking off a goblin's head and inventing one of the most stupid games in the world? Quote:
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08-14-2006, 12:54 PM
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I agree with Mormegil, that we should even the groups.
But as I've said earlier, I would like to start that evening out from the "minor works compartment". ++ Princess Pam Morm (and a couple of others) have been making a lot of the names different characters carry with them. Pam? 
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08-14-2006, 12:56 PM
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I conclude that Morm's favourite is in Silm or 2nd Age. Good to know, good to know...
However, I agree with him on his point about Merry. I mean, come on, even the name itself is annoying, not to mention everything else. ++ Merry |
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08-14-2006, 01:10 PM
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++Bullroarer
Do I need to explain anymore?
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08-14-2006, 01:11 PM
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Here we go again. . .
++ Princess Pam
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08-14-2006, 01:52 PM
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08-14-2006, 03:10 PM
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08-14-2006, 03:36 PM
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And once again...
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08-14-2006, 04:41 PM
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Let me add to my Merry argument. He essentially is neither here nor there. He's, as I said, moderately funny but not enough to keep neither is he serious enough to be kept for his depth. He's not exactly dumb, and we can find some charm in dumb or slow witted characters, but he's not really intelligent either. He's not a blundering nincompoop on the battle field, well at least by the end, but he's no master strategist either and do NOT tell me the Scouring of the Shire plan was a stroke of genius, he simply blew his horn and had the hobbits out number the ruffians. He's neither repugnant morally nor is he scrupulous.
The sum of it is: Merry is just plain and average and nothing he does can change that. There's really only a sense of mediocre blah when it comes to Merry and that my friends is a rating killer plain and simple.
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08-14-2006, 05:02 PM
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Flame of the Ainulindalë
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Just see the scope of the argument we are having with Middle-Earth based chartacters! That's too good to be wasted while characters like Princess Pam still live in the game!
Why are we wishing to do away with them so hastily as we could just calmly kill those minor works types (well, possibly first not including Chrysophylax - it's a dragon anyway, or Goldberry - she's in the LotR anyway). Just do away with those not ME-related figures first and then release the battle of the "real personas"... Sorry to look one-sided, but I can't help myself. I could give seven Pams and thirteen Alfs for one Manwë.
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08-14-2006, 05:03 PM
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Maundering Mage
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Perhaps there are those who like the minor works characters as well.
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08-14-2006, 05:10 PM
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08-14-2006, 05:22 PM
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I´m starting to wonder what Bofur is bringing to the ratings, exactly. I like a dwarf with attitude but this one is just a waste of space.
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08-14-2006, 05:24 PM
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Flame of the Ainulindalë
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Well, we didn't have Bombur to choose for... even though he might have been a bit sympathetic.
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08-14-2006, 05:37 PM
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08-14-2006, 06:15 PM
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++Merry, Merry
(sung to the tune of Neil Diamond’s Cherry, Cherry) Here comes showdown, ain’t gonna be late Gonna be outta sight, yeah Merry’ll run outta town, can’t wait Merry, Merry Go on Merry, Merry Merry, Merry Go on Merry, Merry Whoa, Merry Gonna make your own lightnin’ It won’t be frightnin’ That’s all it takes To get Merry shakin’ Outta sight. Merry, Merry Go on Merry, Merry Merry, Merry Go on Merry, Merry Merry, Merry Okay, well, Neil's lyrics never were his strong point. Sort of like the likeable hobbit fellow.
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08-14-2006, 08:11 PM
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Well, I like Merry, though I do hold somewhat of a grudge re: the fact that he won LotR survivor whereas Pippin didn't even make it in the all star round. Perhaps this is just as well, because I doubt anyone here wants to see Diamond frothing at the mouth trying to orchestrate a Pippin win (no argument would sway me, sorry, that's just how it is when you're a Pippin fangirl). Regardless, clearly Pippin is the more interesting hobbit of the two and if Pippin can't be around then, well, I'm not sure Merry should be either.
On the other hand, there's Princess Pam. As I said before, I'd rather have had Farmer Giles or the Mewlips or Roverandom or lots of other MW characters around before Pam. She was minor in the minor work and her name still drives me crazy. And between Merry and Princess Pam... well, Pippin wouldn't vote Merry off at such a point. WWPD. Those are the initials I live by. + + Princess Pam
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08-14-2006, 08:22 PM
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sticking with ++Alf the Prentice, King of Faerie
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whats wrong with plain average? Merry is not as comical as Pippin but cracks a joke now and then and also reads a book now and then. Who took lead in Fangorn cause he actually used his time in Rivandell well. Who leaded the scouring of the shire? Who organised the whole move in Hobbition? Who was on the right track on the door of Moria (okay, exaggerating a bit here
). What would we do without a character who's just plain enough to do all the little but important tasks which don't fit all that well in some distinct character's code of action.And to hear that Merry is useless without Pippin makes me want to strangle PJ. And Im sorry to see such nice folk as yourselves apparantly feeling the influence of the movie. So Im going ahead with the yet-to-happen slaughter of minor characters + + Princess Pam
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08-15-2006, 08:09 AM
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I agree with Gil-Galad.
++ Alf the Prentice, King of Faerie ...should go. King's ought to have their full names used. Like Alfred...Alfonzo...Alfredo...Alfalfa...
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I think some of you are missing the point. This isn't the "Weakest Link". I think we should be honouring Tolkien's philosophy by wisely considering that even the smallest and weakest might have an important part to play. Thus, we should be booting off the powerful, especially the obnoxious, snivelling powerful ones, and those who we know will land sturdily on their feet in character-afterlife, otherwise known as rerun heaven or Lost or any number of talk show.
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08-15-2006, 10:28 AM
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SpM not voting for a Hobbit?!?! I am shocked!!!
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Yes. It is time to make minor deletions to
minor characters. So: + + Princess Pam
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08-15-2006, 10:56 AM
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Sorry - further proviso for voting for Merry - I will do so once Alf goes.
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08-15-2006, 10:58 AM
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--Bullroarer
++Princess Pam She has a stupid name (like the golf-monster, I know) and I want to keep Merry safe. And to get rid of these "minor nobodies" ...
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