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06-29-2006, 11:24 PM | #1 |
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My Essay: "A Defense of Character: Boromir"
Hello everybody, if you have some free time I would appreciate it if you read my essay entitled "A Defense of Character: Boromir". It is located at my site http://www.swordofboromir.com. Please let me know what you think if you do read it.
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06-30-2006, 01:18 PM | #2 | |||||||
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Impressive, very impressive. There are a few things I want to touch on, but very well done.
First, I'd like to note that I don't think Tolkien was so anti-Boromir as it seems. Sure, he compares him to Saruman and Denethor, but it's in the sense that there is no black and white, good and evil. There is a bunch of gray areas, it's not "all these guys are good and they're going to fight all these evil guys," as some critics said. There are people who struggle between good and evil, they have a flawed reasoning so to say. But, he doesn't compare them in the sense of being a "bad person." Which I think is what you are trying to argue, I agree, and I think Tolkien would agree. Boromir has his flaws, his struggles, but he is not an "evil/bad person." What I mean, by he was comparing them to their outlook on Good and Evil to... In Saruman's case, he wasn't allied with Sauron. He lets us into his mind and he plans to betray Sauron: Quote:
With Denethor you're just opening up one complicated case of worms. He is an effective Steward that cared deeply for Gondor, but he became obsessed with power. He needed to be in control and no one else... Quote:
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With Boromir he wants more than anything Sauron's downfall and Gondor's victory. But, he doesn't agree with the Council's decision. He feels its folly to send the Ring into Mordor in the hands of a hobbit. It should be used as a weapon against Sauron, seeing only the short-term solution and not what will come aftewards. The letter you point out where Tolkien compares Boromir to Denethor and Saruman I think are more in these regards. The good vs. evil battle is not black and white it's filled with gray areas. There are characters in the story that are against Sauron (evil) but their way of defeating him are either entirely bad and evil itself (Saruman) or see their way as being the best. I don't think Tolkien ever thought Boromir was a "bad person", though. He does give Boromir justice. As we see Boromir indeed was saved and redeemed for his actions. Boromir's death most closely mimics the Anglo-Saxon Laws of Compensation. Where a sin/crime is committed, in order to be saved you must not only feel sorry for what you did, but "compensate" - either with gold or your life- and then a holy man must declare you saved. 1) Commite the crime- Boromir trying to take the ring from Frodo. 2) Forgiveness- "I tried to take the ring from Frodo. I am sorry. I have paid."~The Departure of Boromir 3) Compensate- I doubt Boromir had the money for his compensation, but he does the other thing and he sacrifices his life to attempt a good deed by helping save Merry and Pippin. 4) Holy man, both Aragorn and Gandalf who could be considered "holy figures" in the story declare Boromir was saved as you pointed out in the essay. So, I doubt if Tolkien thought that Boromir was a "bad/evil person" he would have given Boromir this kind of redemption. Tolkien probably would have stuck with his earliest draft thoughts on Boromir, if he felt like he was an "evil person." Quote:
Boromir no doubt is a flawed individual and suffers from excess pride, something Tolkien shows distaste for quite a bit. Pride can be a good trait, but it's the excess prid, or ofer-mod as Tolkien terms, that can get people into trouble. There is no doubt that Boromir is full of pride, but I don't think this condemns him as a 'bad person,' it's what causes his pull and downfall towards the Ring. I like how you mention the deeds that Boromir does along the way, because without his strength the Fellowship wouldn't have gotten far. But, you may also want to add a bit more about him resisting the Ring. Boromir ultimately falls to the Ring's corruption, but it's not like he has some big grand conspiracy from the start of the quest to take the Ring from Frodo. He is resistant to it's temptation up to the very point where he falls to it. As you mention Galadriel awoke something in Boromir and after Lorien his temptation to the Ring dramatically increases and becomes more apparent. Also, I like how you point out the Ring got control over Boromir. Boromir was not in control of his own actions: Quote:
In fact I think this event changed Boromir even more and made him grow to be a better person than he was before. An interesting point is after the attempt to take the Ring, he goes back. Though he doesn't admit to it here, he does something Boromir usally doesn't do, WILLINGLY TAKE ORDERS! Quote:
So, I don't necessarily agree with the fact that Tolkien thought Boromir was a 'bad person.' He was flawed, and like Saruman and Denethor the "good vs. evil" idea wasn't so clear-cut. He didn't agree with the Council and he wanted to use the Ring against Sauron, but I don't know if Tolkien ever said that Boromir was evil as a person. Overall though, a very well done essay and a cogently argued defense of Boromir.
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06-30-2006, 02:41 PM | #3 | ||
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Great points and a nice essay.
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06-30-2006, 04:50 PM | #4 | ||
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Its perhaps true that many of the characters 'writhe' in the same way - Denethor, Saruman - in fact most of the characters have that experience. But the point is they all remain themselves, even at the most extreme point. So there is a moral choice to be made & there is an individual who makes a free choice - even though they may be under the most extreme distress. Boromir chooses 'Evil' & as such he is required to pay his 'weregild'. The difference between Boromir & Frodo is that Boromir dies forgiven, & knows that he has paid his debt. Frodo perhaps, deep down, never does feel he has paid the debt for his 'betrayal'. He still longs for the Ring's existence even after its destruction. I suspect this is the difference between them. Boromir desired the Ring to defeat Sauron. One feels that once that had happened he would no longer have any desire for it. Frodo desired the Ring even after Sauron's fall. Its as if his identification with the Ring had become so intense that he saw no clear dividing line between himself & it, whereas for Boromir the Ring was merely the means to an end. Frodo could not destroy the Ring finally because it was effectively himself - its 'will' was his own, its being his own being. Boromir never went that far. Which is not to say that, if he had taken it & achieved victory over Sauron he wouldn't have ended up in the same position. However that didn't happen. Frodo identified himself with the Ring, became one with it. Boromir never did, so his 'sin' was less. However his 'test' was less. I suspect Boromir, unlike Frodo, was able to forgive himself & therefore accept Aragorn's 'forgiveness', & so die at peace. Frodo, however, was not able to forgive himself, & so could not go on living, but must needs pass from the world. Boromir's was not a 'mortal' sin, so he could die in peace. Frodo's was, so he could not, but had to continue living - why else did he not die, as he should have done, in achieving the Quest. He expected to die at the end. His 'punishment' for his 'sin' was in not being permitted to die. His life after the Ring's destruction was his punishment for his sin. Of course, the only way he could have achieved the Quest was to hurl himself into the Fire along with the Ring - the idea he could have thrown the Ring in & walked away is ridiculous, as by that time he had ceased to distinguish between it & himself. The task he had taken on himself was his own destruction along with that of the Ring - whether he realised that or not at the time he accepted the Quest is not important. His role was to be the Blood Sacrifice for the Sins of Middle-earth, but he refused at the end to go through with it. He rejected his sacrificial role & was punished accordingly, because Eru demanded his death, not just the destruction of the One. One of Tolkien's best friends, GB Smith wrote two elegies for Rob Gilson who had just been killed on the Somme: John Garth writes (Tolkien & the Great War) Quote:
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06-30-2006, 11:21 PM | #5 | ||||||
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Boromir88, I am a little confused with what you're telling me, because some of the things you critiqued I have already done in my essay.
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Fans that have no previous knowledge of his character and the internal struggles with concerns to the Ring and of Gondor may even deem him evil. This is one of the many misconceptions about Boromir that urged me to write this essay. I said that fans with no previous knowledge may deem him evil, not Tolkien. Quote:
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Here Tolkien speaks of Boromir’s issue within the story as a sort of limbo between Good and Evil. As Tolkien stated “there are treacheries and strife even among the Orcs”, he is most likely talking about strife amongst Men, or strife amongst friendship and promise. He can also be talking of (which is more likely) the inner struggle of Boromir through out the story and how it ultimately plays out in the end. Although trying to steal the Ring was in fact an evil deed, Boromir never fights for the side of the enemy, nor is he ever debating which side is right. Gondor was weakened at the time of the War of the Ring, and such a burden as bringing this Ring of Power back to the halls of Gondor was laid upon him. Tolkien compared the Men of Gondor to the Elves, in the sense of a withering people, perhaps making stressed and hasty decisions. Stressed and hasty decisions indeed, however as you will read, Boromir at least was not viewed as “withering” to most that knew him. Thanks for reading my work. |
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07-01-2006, 01:51 AM | #6 | ||
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Actually I wasn't disagreeing with you on a whole lot. I thought it was a good, indepth, essay on Boromir's character. Most of the stuff from my post I was giving you other things that you might want to add in and strengthen it even more. For example, his redemption to Anglo-Saxon Laws of Compensation, and the fact that he ended up taking orders from Aragorn. Just some other things that you might want to add, if you so wish.
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07-02-2006, 11:31 PM | #7 |
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I understand what you're saying, I may edit that a bit, for it wasn't my intention to make the reader think that Tolkien didn't like Boromir that much. Although, I do think that the "bossy brother" quote is in a negative light. As Tolkien obviously prefered Faramir much more, some of the qualities Boromir didn't have are present in Faramir, and as Tolkien was talking about Faramir in Letter #244:
"He was motherless and sisterless...and had a 'bossy' brother. He had been accustomed to giving way and not giving his own opinions air..." Tolkien goes on to praise Faramir even more. So in that respect, I see the "bossy brother" comment as a definite negative on Boromir. |
07-03-2006, 06:15 AM | #8 | |
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Anglo-Saxon compensatory system?
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For what it's worth, the Roman Catholic Tolkien would in my opinion be more likely to favour the Church process, whereby sin is realised and repented, confessed and then absolved (by an ordained priest, not just any holy man) after the performance of a suitable act of penance. In Boromir's case, he realises instantly that he has sinned, demonstrates immediate penitence and expiates his transgression by sacrificing his life for his friends. Aragorn as Boromir's rightful (although not yet official) lord and Gandalf as the spiritual emissary of the Valar, offer temporal and spiritual absolution respectively. The spiritual perspective on this sacrifice is neatly summed up by John 15:13: "Greater love than this no man hath, that a man lay down his life for his friends" (Vulgate "maiorem hac dilectionem nemo habet ut animam suam quis ponat pro amicis suis"). Logically, since no direct monetary payment is made to Denethor as ruler of Gondor or Aragorn as the heir apparent to the Gondorian throne, weregild has clearly not been payed, and the crime is not one that calls for death under the Anglo-Saxon law codes. Furthermore Gondor has no such system, and I think that Tolkien would have required more internal consistency of his story as well as preferring the approach to forgiveness taken in his own denomination and faith. Anglo-Saxon codes are logical and sensible, but like any compensatory system they take little account of repentance.
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07-15-2006, 12:30 AM | #9 |
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It was my mistake for typing Anglo-Saxon, I don't know what exactly I was thinking at the time. I meant it was an Anglo-Norman concept, for one to be truly 'forgiven' and redeemed, they would not only have to ask for forgiveness, but have some form of compensation for their crime. Which, I read from the Haskin's Society at Cornell University.
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