Tol-in-Gaurhoth XIX: Ang Sagang Daga, bow.

[Caranlondien]

I hadn't even thought of that... this gives me hope.

[Naria]

I

think it was just Naria trying to find a loophole.

No loophole? Dang nabbit!! and I thought that there would have been one there

[Naria]

I understand the direction in which you want to take the village Gurthang. What I have a problem with is already having the knowledge that I will definitely be caught in a double lynch next Day. In a way it's disconcerting and in another way it's rather humorous....I have no chance in saving myself. So if everyone agrees to your plan then I guess I will leave it up to the village and not even bother to try and find a wolf. It sounds to me like you want to just keep on double lynching and hope to catch a wolf or two in there....so why should anybody post next Day? We might as well just get right to the double lynch and save ourselves some time, according to you. Please stop being such a ninny, I am no more a wolf than you are

[Caranlondien]

I don't think the vote tomorrow is limited to you and me, Naria. I think the idea is to try to kill the werewolves as soon as possible, based on analysis. But we're choosing two a day, from the unknown list. This doesn't eliminate analysis and reasoning.

[Gurthang]

Originally Posted by Naria

....so why should anybody post next Day? We might as well just get right to the double lynch and save ourselves some time, according to you. Please stop being such a ninny, I am no more a wolf than you are

Let's worry about 'next Day' when it gets here. Right now, I see you refusing to vote with a pattern that will as much assure a village victory as anything else that we have out there. Actually, said pattern will better assure the village's victory than anything else previously stated. You refusing to do this for the village screams wolf to me.

If you have a better plan, say so. If not, then please vote for Valier as I've suggested.

[Naria]

I get the Plan....gahh. My point was that no matter how one slices it, we are still gunna die next Day, according to Gurthang's Plan. Guess we'll see....

I am not outright refusing to go along with your Plan Gurthang! I have a problem voting for someone that I have not suspected and still don't....aargh...I hate this

++Valier

For the 'better good of the village' *sigh*

[Gurthang]

Originally Posted by Naria

For the 'better good of the village'

Thank you.

Valier, you can now vote for yourself (if you feel suicidal) or for Samwise; whichever you please.

[Gurthang]

For everyone's knowledge:

Samwise - 3 (Thin, Form, LMP)
Valier - 2 (Caran, Naria)
LMP - 1 (tar-a)

Left to vote:
Valier
Samwise

Those two should vote for each other.

Cailin
Lalaith
Gurthang

We'll hold our votes to ensure the double.

[Valier]

Wow now I guess it's time for little ol' me to die then.......ok then.......I guess this is goodbye.

OH FAIR PROPHET I BEG OF YOU....PLEASE LET ME DIE A QUICK AND PAINLESS DEATH!!!!!!


++Valier

*Utters the words; "good bye fair world!"*

*Then sighs and faints dramatically*

( Ok, Ok,let me have my moment.. )

[Naria]

I am off to bed now....I hope that Samwise is a wolf because I'm not convinced that Valier is. Night all

[Gurthang]

Thank you Valier.

Samwise - 3 (Thin, Form, LMP)
Valier - 3 (Caran, Naria, Valier)
LMP - 1 (tar-a)

I don't think Samwise is going to vote anytime soon. No matter, I'll be here to offset him. *sits down to have a smoke and wait*

So that there's no cross-posting mix-up, Cailin and Lalaith, please tell me who you are going to vote for before you do. Thank you.

[Formendacil]

Wow!

Interesting day, indeed....

All the same, LMP coming under suspicion, his forced revelation, and the possibility that he may well die tonight (almost certain, unless Wolf X is a complete idiot...), is rather depressing.

Still, I have to say that you probably survived long enough to give us the probability of a village win, LMP. By giving us three Known Innocent names, you've probably ensured a village victory. I don't know about ALL village victories in the past, but any game I've played where the Seer survived to give the village a core to rally around came a LOT closer to victory (or actually got right to it) than otherwise.

As for Gurthang's double-lynching plan... I'm still opposed to double-lynchings. I don't like them and I never have, although it is conceiveable that some day I'll come around to them. However, I have to admit that the plan seems fairly ironclad, and despite my "moral" reservations about it, I see no reason (as yet) not to proceed with it.

[Lalaith]

Good morning everyone, what interesting reading I've had since I got up.

Goodbye brave Seer, well done. *hugs lmp*

Tar-a's whisking -what a shame. Unless of course, she turns out to be a wolf....

My hunches, btw, were Thinlomien and Formendacil. Nothing in particular, I just felt Form wasn't, well, quite playing to form, and what Cailin said about Lommy this morning (that with anyone else she'd have her down as a wolf) was more or less exactly what I'd been thinking too.

So, Gurthang, I shall vote for Samwise. In the next post, to avoid cross posting.

[Lalaith]

Here we go.

++SAMWISE

[Gurthang]

Thank you Lalaith. Cailin, when you arrive, we need you to vote for Valier.

[Cailín]

Wow, a lot has happened! I am a bit panicky right now, as my internet was not working this morning and I had to rush to campus to be here on time...

So I only scanned the posts. LMP - I am very, very sorry. But I first thought you were the Seer indeed and then you lived and lived... it was too weird.

Anyway, who do I need to vote for?

[Cailín]

Ah, I see.

++VALIER

And thanks, littlemanpoet. Your sacrifice will not be in vain.

[SamwiseGamgee]

++ Valier

[Cailín]

Sneak!

[Gurthang]

++SamwiseGamgee

I tried doing this once. It didn't work out for me either.

[SamwiseGamgee]

Your post is at 8.31 AM, Gurthang. Does the prophet hear my case?

[Gurthang]

Originally Posted by SamwiseGamgee

Your post is at 8.31 AM, Gurthang. Does the prophet hear my case?

This is true, and that's completely up to him. But I thought you believed in 'playing to the whistle'. I don't think he'll discount my vote, he hasn't been doing that this game that I know of. Even if he does, you'll be lynched tomorrow for sure.

Oh, and that's 2:31am for me, thank you very much!

[SamwiseGamgee]

I know. Don't think me petulent, I'm just trying to escape the noose!

[Gurthang]

Originally Posted by SamwiseGamgee

I know. Don't think me petulent, I'm just trying to escape the noose!

I can't really blame you for that, and I hope you won't blame me for going to bed! Good night.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

'Who dares to post after me?' said the Mod. 'Who dares to say whether votes count or not? You will vote, mortal, and I will count them. The blood of the banker and the sheep-shearer shall be shed toDAY.'

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Valier and SamwiseGamgee were to be toDAY's sacrifice to the altar of lynching. The two protested their innocence as they were bound and led outside the village.

'But I give reasonable interest rates! I'm not be a loanshark!' said Samwise

'Yes, but you're a Werewolf,' said lmp. 'Be gone with him!'

'But what about my sheep?!' asked Valier sweetly.

'They shall be taken care of,' said Thinlómien.

Suddenly Samwise burst from his bonds as he morphed into his NIGHT form. He grew bigger, fangs grew out of his mouth, brown fur covered his body. He had become a Werewolf.

The events that happened afterwards were immortalised by these staves:

The town banker came down like a wolf on the fold
And his pockets were gleaming with silver and gold.
With a bite from his maw he took Valier away
With a shot from his bow Gurthang killed him that DAY.

'Well,' said littlemanpoet, 'we have only one left to trouble us now.'

SamwolfGamgee replied with his dying breath, 'I'll see you again soon, Seer.'

The scroll of the census was changed:

Nilpaurion Felagund, the Prophet of the Mod God, was lynched by suspicious means on the first NIGHT.
Garin, an Ordinary Villager, was lanced like a boil on the the first DAY.
Anguirel, an Ordinary Villager, was massacred by were-hedgehogs on the second NIGHT.
Eonwe, an Ordinary Villager, was struck by lightning, struck by lightning! on the second DAY.
dancing spawn of ungoliant, a Seer, was taken away on the third NIGHT.
Kath, a Werewolf, was accidentally strangled on the third DAY
Lhunardawen, the Werewolf Beloved, died with his Lover on the third DAY
Farael, the Lover, died defending his Beloved on the third DAY
Eomer of the Rohirrim, an Ordinary Villager, was poked with woodwinds on the fourth NIGHT.
the guy who be short, an Ordinary Villager, was stuffed into a tree-frog on the fourth DAY.
Glirdan, an Ordinary Villager, was consumed by fire from the Mod God on the fourth DAY.
Celuien, an Ordinary Villager, was 'Freud' alive on the fifth NIGHT.
Valier, an Ordinary Villager, was eaten by SamwolfGamgee on the fifth DAY.
SamwiseGamgee, a Werewolf, was shot by Gurthang on the fifth DAY.

Those alive are:

Caranlondien, a lumberjack
tar-ancalime, a witch
Cailín, the town gossip
Naria, a midwife who goes ever so slightly mad with each birth
Lalaith, a rich young widow
Thinlómien, a mushroom-picker
Formendacil, an unemployed person
littlemanpoet, a stone-cutter
Gurthang, an arrowsmith

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Coming home from the lynching that DAY, tar-ancalime saw a message in her voicemail. It was from her associates in the future. They were being systematically hunted, and they need her aid. For tar-ancalime was no ordinary witch, but a Technical Services Sorceress, who aided witches and warlocks who were being pursued by authorities. She packed her portmanteau with extraction kits, and, after taking one last look out her window, zapped herself to the future.

Not far away from her, someone else needed an extrication. littlemanpoet was pacing nervously inside his cabin, waiting for an attack, hoping that it would not come. But come it did.

The door was smashed to pieces by a single blow. In came the last Werewolf of Ened-in-Nowhere.

'Ah, it is you, [name deleted],' said the stone-cutter.

'So, you know me, eh?' said the Werewolf. 'A little dream told you, perhaps?'

lmp nodded curtly, while playing with the heavy hammer in his hand.

'We'll end those dreams now, then.'

Elempí, fearing a cunning trap, rushed at the Werewolf. The Werewolf jumped back out of his house, lifted a boulder, and, using unnatural strength, threw it at him. The Seer was crushed in the path of the huge rock as it smashed into a wall of his house.

'You shall see no more,' said the Werewolf.

'My fellow villagers shall get you,' said littlemanpoet, and then he died.

The scroll of the census was changed:

Nilpaurion Felagund, the Prophet of the Mod God, was lynched by suspicious means on the first NIGHT.
Garin, an Ordinary Villager, was lanced like a boil on the the first DAY.
Anguirel, an Ordinary Villager, was massacred by were-hedgehogs on the second NIGHT.
Eonwe, an Ordinary Villager, was struck by lightning, struck by lightning! on the second DAY.
dancing spawn of ungoliant, a Seer, was taken away on the third NIGHT.
Kath, a Werewolf, was accidentally strangled on the third DAY
Lhunardawen, the Werewolf Beloved, died with his Lover on the third DAY
Farael, the Lover, died defending his Beloved on the third DAY
Eomer of the Rohirrim, an Ordinary Villager, was poked with woodwinds on the fourth NIGHT.
the guy who be short, an Ordinary Villager, was stuffed into a tree-frog on the fourth DAY.
Glirdan, an Ordinary Villager, was consumed by fire from the Mod God on the fourth DAY.
Celuien, an Ordinary Villager, was 'Freud' alive on the fifth NIGHT.
Valier, an Ordinary Villager, was eaten by SamwolfGamgee on the fifth DAY.
SamwiseGamgee, a Werewolf, was shot by Gurthang on the fifth DAY.
tar-ancalime, an Ordinary Villager, went to the future on the sixth NIGHT.
littlemanpoet, a Seer, was crushed by a boulder on the sixth NIGHT.

Those alive are:

Caranlondien, a lumberjack
Cailín, the town gossip
Naria, a midwife who goes ever so slightly mad with each birth
Lalaith, a rich young widow
Thinlómien, a mushroom-picker
Formendacil, an unemployed person
Gurthang, an arrowsmith

[Lalaith]

Good morning, remaining villagers. Bravo, noble arrowsmith, for yet another heroic vigil. Bravo, Valier, for your self-sacrifice. Bravo LMP, who was as we feared taken from us last night.

Now, the wolf is one of these four:

Caranlondien
Naria
Formendacil
Thinlomien

We need to do a double lynch today. The question is who to select.
Here's my plan.

Thinlomien was the mainspring behind yesterday's sudden focus on Samwise. She is therefore unlikely to be a wolf.
I also think Naria should be spared today. Going back to the conclusions I drew from my analysis of Celuien's posts:

If the wolves did think Celuien is the Seer, then LMP, and probably Naria and Gurthang, are innocents. I find little evidence of new wolvish candidates here, however, except possibly Samwise.

Now, it transpired that Gurthang and LMP were indeed innocents and Samwise was indeed a wolf. And look at his response to the Celuien question:

There is, of course, value in going back over what she said, but there's not a huge amount to find, I feel.

Oh but there was, Mr Wolf. So can we also assume that Naria is probably innocent?
The other person who didn't find anything interesting in the Celuien question was Form. Make of that what you will.
Anyway, the upshot of all this is that I suggest that Caranlondien and Formendacil should be our lynchees today.
Cailin has said she will probably not be able to vote.
Gurthang, do you think we can pull this one off on our own? I hope so. And I'm open to other combinations of double lynchees if you don't agree with my thesis...

[Lalaith]

Oh, and as for my Mith comment:
Valier originally quoted Mithalwen, rather than Thinlomien, in her post. After I pointed it out, she went back and edited it....

[Caranlondien]

Originally Posted by Lalaith

Bravo, noble arrowsmith, for yet another heroic vigil. Bravo, Valier, for your self-sacrifice. Bravo LMP, who was as we feared taken from us last night.

Bravo, indeed!

Since our numbers now favor us greatly, I rejoice and am perfectly willing to be sacrificed toDay, if need be. Once others have posted and the known innocents have reached a consensus on who to lynch, I will vote in whichever way is requested of me.

Victory is at hand!

[Gurthang]

Originally Posted by Caranlondien

Since our numbers now favor us greatly, I rejoice and am perfectly willing to be sacrificed toDay, if need be. Once others have posted and the known innocents have reached a consensus on who to lynch, I will vote in whichever way is requested of me.

I'm actually feeling much better about Caranlondien. She seems very willing, and has for the past couple of Days, to sacrafice herself for the village.

I would almost rather do a double of Naria and Formendacil. Originally, yesterday, I had wanted to do a Naria and Caranlondien, but Caran has been extremely helpful, I think. Let me go see if I can scrounge anything up that will help me out. I'll try to hurry, since we need to get things started early rather than late.

Also, I may not be around at the end of the Day, Lalaith, are you willing to hold your vote until the end?

[Lalaith]

Yes, that should be ok. We stay on GMT on the board, don't we? (Because the clocks are moving forward here tonight...)
I hope any innocent who is lynched won't take it personally.

[Naria]

So here we are then....I am an innocent villager and am willing to sacrifice myself toDay, just as poor poor Valier the Day before.*sigh*

I am taking into consideration the goings on from the end of last Day's voting.Formen has been acting weird this game to say the least and his behaviour from the double lynch was not right. I had a problem with it only because I didn't want to vote for Valier, may she rest in peace. He was the only one the blantently disagreed with the double lynch plan. Think about it, he's the only one that isn't willing to sacrifice himself to help the village or go along with it, at any cost. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he voted third for Samwise which is awfully convenient to make himself look innocent by voting for his fellow wolf. Then he comes back on right at the end of the Day just to make the comment that he is opposed to double lychings he doesn't like them. Was this just a last minute attempt to make himself look innocent?

I say we vote for myself and Form toDay. Putting an end to this wolfish rampage. What say you?

[Gurthang]

Originally Posted by Lalaith

Yes, that should be ok. We stay on GMT on the board, don't we? (Because the clocks are moving forward here tonight...)
I hope any innocent who is lynched won't take it personally.

Just to be sure, is this ok meaning you can stay for the deadline, or ok that we lynch Naria and Formendacil? As far as time for the boards is concerned, I don't have any idea. I'd guess they'd stay at GMT.

I really am beginning to think that Formendacil is the other wolf. I can't say that any of the evidence really points to him, but he has been acting strangely. I agree that Thin can be left until tomorrow.

So who should go with Formendawolf, Lalaith: Naria or Caran?

[Formendacil]

Originally Posted by Naria

I am taking into consideration the goings on from the end of last Day's voting.Formen has been acting weird this game to say the least and his behaviour from the double lynch was not right. I had a problem with it only because I didn't want to vote for Valier, may she rest in peace. He was the only one the blantently disagreed with the double lynch plan. Think about it, he's the only one that isn't willing to sacrifice himself to help the village or go along with it, at any cost. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he voted third for Samwise which is awfully convenient to make himself look innocent by voting for his fellow wolf. Then he comes back on right at the end of the Day just to make the comment that he is opposed to double lychings he doesn't like them. Was this just a last minute attempt to make himself look innocent?

Naria, you just made my day...

I'm not a wolf- not that I expect you to believe that- but to say in the same paragraph that I'm "acting weird" and that I'm the one who "blatantly disagreed with the double-lynching plan" is hilarious. Obviously, you've not played enough games with me yet, because I've ALWAYS been opposed to double-lynchings. I either oppose them before the game when the Mod calls for a show of hands, or during the game if he/she lets them in.

That said, I'm well aware that there's no point at all in opposing a double-lynch at this point. With a bevy of Known Innocents directing the operations, we can be almost definitely assured of a village victory. Pretty much the only thing that can mess that up is another whisking away like Tar-Ancalime's.

That said, I STILL don't like double-lynchings, but I appreciate that they are probably the best thing to do at the moment.

Now, naturally, I'm not really all that interested in dying today... I'd prefer to survive to the end of the game (although with the double-lynchings happening, that won't be the case). I've got my stats on the Grimoire to think of, you know.

I'm going to be off in another town for most of toDay, assisting (or just watching...) a theatre production my brother's in. Unless we get snowed in (and it's not an impossibility) I'll be back within the last three hours of the day, to see who the village has decided to lynch, and to throw my vote in, if it's needed.

In the meantime, adieu!

[Lalaith]

Yes I can come in for the end of voting, I mean. As long as voting does actually end at 8.30am, that is, and not too much earlier.
I can get online at about 8am GMT and stay until voting closes.

As for who to lynch with Form, I don't know. What do you think of my reasoning about Naria earlier? Do you have time to do a vote analysis on the four suspects?

[Gurthang]

First off, glancing back through Day 3, I found this:

Originally Posted by Formendacil

Kath, I hate to say it- well, actually, I don't hate to say it, since I'm on your case anyway- but that vote of yours really looks like a Werewolf trying to save their neck rather than the reasoned vote for a Seer-confirmed candidate that you make it out to be.

Take from that what you will. I think we've decided he's gone toDay anyway.

Quick analysis. Looking back over the voting analysis I did yesterDay, I am again rethinking who we should lynch. I'll do up to Day 4, can't really count since it was pretty much organized after a certain point. Prior to that, voting was like this:

Who. . . . Day 1. . .Day 2. . . Day 3. . . Day 4

Caran.. . . Ang. . . Lhuna. . . Lhuna. . . None

Naria. . . . Guy. . . Eonwe. . . Kath. . . . None

Form . . . . Guy. . . Kath. . . . .Kath. . . . Naria

Thin. . . . Glirdan . Naria. . . . Kath. . . . Guy

Okay, Naria voted Kath to tie her with Lhuna. I'm gonna say that she's not a wolf, at least that's what I'll say for now.

Form, well, we already decided he's one for toDay.

Thin we've decided is not going toDay.

Which leaves Caran. Caran's Day 3 vote for Lhuna put the widest gap between them the two wolves. Looks suspiciously like a wolf trying to look good by voting for the lover-wolf and trying to save another at the same time. And you could say second Day vote was a ploy to look good, too.

Okay, Lalaith, I'll go with Caran and Formendacil. Do you want to pick voter's, or do I get that honor.

[Lalaith]

Oh, the honour is yours, sir.

[Caranlondien]

I hope Formendacil is the other werewolf. I'll get an exciting death scene

Once you guys come up with the vote list, I'll cast my vote (so you don't have one more "unknown" voter to worry about).

[Gurthang]

Okay, I'm gonna walk myself through this. I like to talk out loud as I think.

Voters:
Naria
Formendacil
Thinlomien
Caranlondien
Gurthang
Lalaith

Cailin is not voting.

So, we need to see votes go like this:

Voter - - - - - votes for
Formendacil --> Caran
Caranlondien --> Form
Thinlomien --> Caran
Naria --> Form

Those should go first. Lalaith and I will vote after the above have gone.