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10-29-2005, 10:35 AM | #321 |
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Great! One vote more to Androg!
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10-29-2005, 10:55 AM | #322 |
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++Androg
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10-29-2005, 02:31 PM | #325 |
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I am all for a double eviction, and hopefully winning this challenge in any way possible.
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10-30-2005, 03:52 AM | #326 |
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Tilion-5
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RESULTS OF DAY EIGHT (M-e)
One evening, the Gaurwaith were on one of their usual killing sprees. In the darkness something short and dark hurtled past them, and Androg drew back the string of his longbow, preparing to shoot it... Meanwhile, in the sky, Tilion could restrain his longing for Arien no longer! As she set, he charged after her; but his craft span out of control, and he hurtled ever downwards... And crashed to earth right on top of the Gaurwaith, killing all of them except Turin, who with his usual good luck was standing about a yard out of harm's way. The Moon was shattered into pieces, and Tilion cast, disgraced, into the deeps of the Void, where Manwe awaited him... As for Androg, he was caught at the very centre, and his body was pulverised. RESULTS OF THE CHALLENGE Khim, thanking Mahal for his narrow escape, ran to his father's side. Ibun was also present. The three plotted to fall on the last bandit who had escaped, the man with the black sword, and steal all his gold. So they crept up behind him, clubs and nets at the ready. A strange new feeling was coming over them. With the moonlight gone, repressed emotions rose to the surface as they advanced. For Petty-Dwarves, it would become apparent, were in fact fast-breeding hermaphrodites when given the right conditions. So it was that by the time they reached Turin, they were an army three hundred strong. Unfortunately, armies three hundred strong were exactly what Turin specialied in mincing. He whirled round to face his stalkers, and exterminated them all except Mim, whom he interrogated, and forced to lead him to the Petty-Dwarven dwelling... It's Day Nine in Middle-earth...the contestants... Tribes VALAR Elbereth Ulmo Mandos, Doom of NOLDOR Maedhros Maglor Celegorm Celebrimbor Ereinion Idril Maeglin Orodreth Finduilas Gwindor TELERI/SINDAR Olwe Celeborn Galadriel Mablung MAIA Melian Uinen Arien (with Sun) DWARVES Telchar of Nogrod (incidentally, probably by now a different character. But with the same name. Like Durin the Deathless...) Mim the Petty-dwarf MEN Dior Hurin Tuor Morwen Turin Nienor Brandir FORCES OF EVIL Morgoth Sauron Glaurung Ancalagon (adolescent...) Morgoth, Curse of Challenge the ninth-LOVE TETRAHEDRONS. Anticipating Turin's arrival in Nargothrond, make the romantic situation caused by him as convoluted as possible. Voting will close at 7:30am GMT tomorrow.
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10-30-2005, 09:42 AM | #328 |
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A difficult challenge.
Gwindor has to stay to keep the Turin-Finduilas-Gwindor portion of the situation going. An obvious choice would be to vote off Orodreth to make Finduilas Queen of Nargothrond. As queen, she's bound to draw more suitors. Voting of the Curse of Morgoth is another obvious choice since that option takes some of the gloominess off Turin.
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10-30-2005, 10:26 AM | #329 |
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Curufin went already - wouldn't it be time for Celegorm to go? They're quite equal idiots... (says a noldo-fan... Well, I'm a bit crazy...)
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Celuien has two sugestions of who to vote for as for Orodreth: Are you sure that it will be Finduilas who is made queen? Maybe it will be Galadriel. I think it would be interesting if we were to vote of "the curse of Morgoth" |
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10-30-2005, 11:08 AM | #332 |
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Well, we could vote off Arien, thereby plunging Beleriand into darkness, because moonlight is so much more romantic. But then, a bunch of nitwits went and voted off Tilion (and therefore the Moon) ...
Still, the stars would remain. And candlelight is pretty romantic. Surely such conditions would be bound to make all the ladies swoon for a chap like Turin ...
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10-30-2005, 11:38 AM | #333 | |
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I'm not sure that I want to plunge Middle-earth into darkness again by voting off the Sun. At least, I don't want to do that while the baddies are still here. I'm leaning somewhat toward the Curse of Morgoth. Having a curse hanging over his head is a major dampener on Turin's life right now. Who knows what he'll do as the dashing, handsome hero without having to mope about complaining about being the son of ill-fate?
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10-30-2005, 11:40 AM | #334 | |
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But wouldn't ME be a gloomy place without both the sun and the moon? As always, there's plenty of ways to deal with this problem. If we're going to make Turin's lovelife more convoluted, we can either make more women fall for him, make more men fall for Finduilas, make Finduilas fall fall for more men and so on. I've always thought the "romantic situation" was tricky and tragic enough without any more twistes. I wonder how a removal of the curse of Morgoth would help in this situation? By removing this heavy burden, do you think Turin will attract more women? Or be more willing to give his heart to someone? And if we removed Orodreth and if Finduilas was to be queen and thereby drawing more suitors to her, would that make things much worse? What I would like to do is to add a second girl, someone to love Gwindor but be loved by Turin. That would be the ultimate situation, but could that be done? Maybe not but I'll think about it and see if I can come up with a solution...
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10-30-2005, 12:26 PM | #335 |
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Dare I suggest that Galadriel might be a little more relaxed and open to joining in without a certain Sinda...?
Though it cuts at the heart to bring it up...
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10-30-2005, 12:40 PM | #336 |
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Are you suggesting Celeborn, Ang? Cuz I thought of him, but thought that if that's going to work, we'll need a little help from the mod in the upcoming write-up
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10-30-2005, 12:48 PM | #337 |
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That was indeed my point. And I do try my best to be vaguely impartial. In this case, I don't see Galadriel sitting demurely at home after something happens to her husband...even if I like him.
Another option-vote off Morwen, emancipate Nienor and throw her into the mix. Incidentally, I see I've been mispelling her as Nienna...must go back and correct...
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10-30-2005, 01:11 PM | #338 |
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Ah, you read my mind Ang! But would Turin fall in love with Nienor? Remember this is before Glaurung put his spell on Turin. He might realize who she is.
In the light of my previous post and a mod who might have the same thoughts, I vote ++Celeborn Not only will it (maybe) push a mourning and lonely Galadriel in the arms of Turin (go visit her brother is logic after such a loss), but we'll also get rid of that stuck-up pretending-to-be-king-while-the-queen-rules Celeborn. Let's just hope Celebrian is already born.
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Point of information: it's really Olwe who's pretending to be King while the Queen rules...
However, our thoughts are essentially the same. Sorry, Celeborn... ++CELEBORN
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besides, i think that if celeborn went, galadriel would become sad, lonely and withdrawn. her heart would be closed to all new loves. she would lack her will to rule, and would possibly be allowed to return to valinor (what good is a lackluster leader), which having lost all love of life, she would doubtlessly accept. besides, there would be drastic implications for the fellowship, and aragorn/gondor/the fourth age (or whatever is the age of men). no celebrindal, no arwen. no arwen, rejoining of the branches of the half-eleven. no celeborn, no driven, willful galadriel ruling lorien. no lorien, no succor for the fellowship. and we all no what that means. domination of evil. orodreth seems like a good pick to me. morwen also. for reasons stated in other people's posts.
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10-30-2005, 01:27 PM | #341 |
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++Arien.
The reasons others have said are good enough for me.
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10-30-2005, 03:10 PM | #342 | |
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And Eonwe: to start with, how do you know there wouldn't be a Arwen? Celebrian might already be born and she needs a strong father-figure when Celeborn is gone. That will force Galadriel to go looking for a suitable man. And even if she's not looking for it, the visit in Nargothrond will make her meet Turin. Either he falls in love with her or she falls in love with him, it's written in the stars Second: what do we care about the age of men, Aragorn, the fellowship or anything else far in the future? This is Silmarillion Survivor and we're not supposed to take the future in account. Look to the task and you'll see this is the best solution. The outcome is unpredictable, but just by throwing in an other female in the equation the possibility for disaster will be so much greater.
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and getting rid of celeborn would produce one possible addetive. getting rid of orodreth would produce many, many suitors for findulias' hand. oo, oo, i just though of this too! when findulias sees that galadriel and turin have something going, she will turn back to Gwindor (both turin and findulias didn't really want to fall in love with eachother), thereby rendering the situation: defused. hopefully these reasons will give teh celeborn bandwagon a few flat tires. if not ill try again...
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Getting more suitors for Finduilas will increase the chaos, but it's not a lack of Finduilas-admirers we suffer from. Gwindor loves Finduilas, Finduilas loves Turin and Turin loves nobody at this time. That's the empy space which needs to be filled, someone for Turin to love or someone to love Gwindor. Or even better: both. To maximize the anguish for loving and loved, that's the best solution. But if it failes, Galadriel can still fall in love with Turin. And let's face it, one famous elven queen or hundreds of nameless, faceless elf's loving Finduilas, what's most interesting?
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if findulias assends the throne of nargrathond, maybe turin will fall in love with her. or at least the power she represents. that would add a great deal of angstyness into our concoction: fake love vs. true love vs no love vs rabid findulias fans. turnin's love, as you said, is the missing piece of our love tetrahedron...
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10-30-2005, 04:28 PM | #346 |
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But if Turin loves Finduilas (or her title, doesn't matter) and she loves him, wouldn't that make them happy? Alas(always loved that word) , poor Gwindor will go alone and unhappy, but one out of three? No, that's just not good enough. We'll make everybody unhappy and suffering
Either way, I'm going to bed now. I hope my arguments so far won't be overrun during my night, I expect voting for Celeborn to increase like an avalanche
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10-30-2005, 05:38 PM | #347 |
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I'm not sold on the arguments for either Celeborn or Orodreth.
So, for want of a better candidate, and for the reasons earlier stated, I shall vote: ++ARIEN
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10-30-2005, 05:56 PM | #348 |
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what's that, ariel 2, Celeborn 2?
lets make it ariel 2, cleborn 2, and orodreth 1. ++Orodreth
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10-30-2005, 06:55 PM | #349 |
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No mather who becomes queen of Nargothrond it is going to be interesting i and I realy have to see if it has an impact on Turins influence. (I hope so)
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10-30-2005, 07:43 PM | #350 |
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Vote for Celeborn!?! I think not.
++ORODRETH
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10-30-2005, 08:15 PM | #351 |
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I agree with Sauce, the starlight will make an extremely romantic atmosphere
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10-30-2005, 08:33 PM | #352 |
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Without the sun, imagine how many orcs will be crawling everywhere. Turin would obviously have no place to put romance in his busy orc-killing schedule.
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Celeborn-2
Arien-3 Orodreth-4 Orodreth is dethroned! Results on their way.
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RESULTS OF DAY NINE (M-e)
Orodreth was patrolling the Guarded Plain one day when he stumbled on a cunningly constructed Orc trap laid by one of his scouts. Poisoned barbs ended his fairly lacklustre career as King of Nargothrond. Finduilas claimed the throne, persuaded by her friends at court, but the nobles of Nargothrond were uncertain. One law dictated that the King's eldest child should succeed him; another that the oldest line should rule, which was in favour of Galadriel, as Finrod Felagund's sister. A third law, upheld in times of crisis, barred females from the throne, in which case Ereinion was the clear heir, but he was away in the west, and besides still young. Celebrimbor was proposed instead, an Elf of the most royal blood and and great skill. Maedhros, as High King of the Noldor, was called in to decide. Maglor advised him to choose Celebrimbor, whose good character and ability he valued, and Maedhros too was about to judge Celebrimbor worthy; but Celegorm, who despised his nephew and yearned to avenge his brother Curufin, had another plan. He made a deal with Galadriel, power-hungry as ever; if she were given the crown, she would use her influence to persuade Olwe to ally with Celegorm and attack Dior. She agreed; and so Maedhros was persuaded to crown Galadriel Queen of Nargothrond, much to Finduilas's anger... RESULTS OF THE CHALLENGE Embittered by the utter destruction of his race, Mim betrayed Turin to the Orcs of Morgoth, but the human was too much for his captors, slaying several with his bare hands before he reclaimed his sword, killed half-a-dozen enemies in a stroke, and made his escape. It was then that he met the wretched Gwindor, who had also eluded Morgoth, and they made their way to Nargothrond. Finduilas, angry with the establishment for rejecting her claim, soon fell for the stormy, dangerous human outlaw, abandoning Gwindor; but Turin had eyes only for the Queen, Galadriel, whom he served fanatically. Celeborn was still at Olwe's side...and Galadriel was tempted, but did not yet succumb... Contestants and challenge coming up later.
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It's Day Ten in Middle-earth. The contestants:
Tribes VALAR Elbereth Ulmo Mandos, Doom of NOLDOR Maedhros Maglor Celegorm Celebrimbor Ereinion Galadriel Idril Maeglin Finduilas Gwindor TELERI/SINDAR Olwe Celeborn Mablung MAIA Melian Uinen Arien (with Sun) DWARVES Telchar of Nogrod (incidentally, probably by now a different character. But with the same name. Like Durin the Deathless...) Mim the Petty-dwarf MEN Dior Hurin Tuor Morwen Turin Nienor Brandir FORCES OF EVIL Morgoth Sauron Glaurung Ancalagon (adolescent...) Morgoth, Curse of Challenge the tenth: PLANNING PERMISSION. Without evicting Turin, try to stop the building of the bridge over the Narog. Sorry this is so late. Chaotic morning.
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10-31-2005, 08:31 AM | #356 |
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hmm, the moderator gives us an interesting challenge, if these were men instead of elves I would suggest Arien again, but as elves love the starlight it may only slow them down a little, but everything will still be built. We need to keep GWindor, and maybe find a way to get him more clout in the royal court, hmm, maybe if we remove Celeborn, Gwindor and the Queen will be nutually turned to eachother, that could remove the bridge building, but at the same point, it could backfire on us, if Turin and Galadriel turn to eachother.
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Who runs Nargothrond if Finduilas is removed?
Without her backing would the bridge be built and/or The Black Sword stay in Nargothrond?
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Could be time to evict Morwen, so that Turin heads north out of concern for his sister. That would certainly lessen his impact on startegy and planning decisions within Nargothrond.
(Sorry Lalaith. )
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10-31-2005, 11:06 AM | #359 |
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Sound reasoning by SpM:
So: + + Morwen
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10-31-2005, 11:13 AM | #360 |
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If we evict Galadriel, would Turin leave Nargothrond? Maybe ha can't stand being around the place his loved lived when she's not around anymore? Whatever we do, to get Turin out of the place is a good idea... If he's gone, people will listen to Gwindor and the warnings of Gelmir and Arminas. Wait, that warning came to late after the bridge was built... Would a destruction of the bridge complete the task?
Anyway, how we're going to get Turin from Nargothrond with his big crush on the ruler there is a mystery to me. Therefore I nominate Galadriel as one alternative.
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