LOTR Survivor

[Mithalwen]

++ Ugluk ...

[Thinlómien]

We should really get rid of ++Pallando.

[Anguirel]

Today is a dark day, my friends. Today we mourn for the loss of one who was a hero and a captain to all the Fair Folk.

I will not say do not weep, for not all tears are an evil. Yet mighty was the lord, meet was his passing. He waits across the sea. And he knows we shall rise and avenge him.

For Celeborn, Lord of the Galadrim, went not idly. Around him as he leant upon his notched blade lay the bodies of dozens of foes; great Lords of Men; Wizards of mickle power and craft; enigmas and halflings. And even the great Orc that undid him fell to his riposte.

Aye, Celeborn made his mark and defended his honour; no little leech he; no vanity-puffed Silvertop. Brave were his blows and sagacious his counsel. He leaves behind him an alliance of united friends; his foes are bitter and divided, squabbling over petty kingships.

Namarie Celeborn, Lord of Lorinand! We will remember you with each stroke of our vote. Namarie Celeborn of the Trees!

Heirs of Celeborn, well-garbed in robes
Alabaster of feature, swift-running fell archers
Together we'll harry the burners of leaves
With our arrows, our spears, and our well-formed speeches.
And thus I entreat you to fall on the yrch
And to massacre ++Ugluk, a girthed piece of brawn
A swiller of filthmead and spoiler of lands
In him let us plant our bright angry steel.

[WaynetheGoblin]

++RADAGAST Im so happy celeborn is gone that I dont care who I vote for now.

[the guy who be short]

++Ugluk. Bah. "I command," who does he think he is?

[Boromir88]

Thank you, old fellow. I may have been unwearying during the fight, but now it's over, I tremble with the exursion. I just about blew up in poor Boromir's face when I recounted myself and found it to be even...I'd thought he cheated us on purpose. Good chap recounted and evened it out for us. Thanks, Boromir.

No problem, if I make a mistake in counting I expect to be told.

++Radagast, kind of funny how the two most unlikely, least known about wizards make it through.

Radagast- 5
Pallando- 3
Thranduil- 2
Ugluk- 2
Lobelia- 1
Elrond- 1
Alatar- 1

Votings done, and it appears bye-bye Radagast. Atleast he had the luxury of the Eagles carrying him back.

Hobbits
Gollum
Lobelia Sackville-Baggins
Merry
Pippin

Men and Rohan Lady
Boromir
Eomer
Eowyn
Faramir
Hama

Wizards
Alatar
Pallando

Dwarves
Gimli
Gloin

Elves
Cirdan
Elrond
Galadriel
Glorfindel
Thranduil

Others
Quickbeam
Treebeard

Badguys
Grishnakh
Ugluk

[Folwren]

By Boromir88:
No problem, if I make a mistake in counting I expect to be told.

Aye, but I didn't have to bite your head off. I feel awful about it.

Poor Radagast. I was sorry to see him go. I say we should target an orc this time. I'll have to decide which later.

-- Folwren

[The Perky Ent]

Nooooo! I was hoping Radagast would make it to th end! Well...if I must...

++Thranduril

He is very grouchy, and is hogging all the wine in his jail cellar!

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by Firefoot

++Thranduil

Since this is LotR Survivor, so what's he got to do with anything anyway?

I think this is a great piece of advice. Plus he unjustly imprisons Dwarves and let's Gollum escape. We don't need this kind of nincompoopery on this camp.

++THRANDUIL

[Glirdan]

++Thranduil

He locked up the Dwarves and let Gollum escape, not that that isn't a good thing as we saw in the end. But as said before, this is LOTR Survivor, not Hobbit Survivor, and the only important thing he did was be the father of Legolas, and that's not exactly something to be proud of.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

++Eowyn

Why you ask.

She is just to popular !

[Firefoot]

++Thranduil

Because the "Thr" at the start of his name doesn't sound Elvish enough to me.

[Alcarillo]

++Thranduil

He is the elf who spawned Captain Obvious! Off with him!

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

++Eowyn

Why you ask.

She is just to popular !

No, I think Eowyn is to be kept until near the end. She is a great asset to the camp. She is rugged yet soft. Strong yet weak...you get the idea.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Originally Posted by mormegil

She is rugged yet soft. Strong yet weak...you get the idea.

quit right you are!

She is terribel to be around, you newer know were you have her.

One big mood swing she is!

[Alcarillo]

One big mood swing!? She is one of the heroes of the War of the Ring. She goes off to battle disguised as a man and you call it a mood swing? She kills the Witch-King and you call it a mood swing? The only mood swing of hers I know of is her switch from loving Aragorn to loving Faramir. She is now the hardest working member of the Men-and-Rohan-Lady Tribe, and they would be lost without her.

[Pallando]

++Gollum
Now, how this little bugger made it this far is beyond me. He's a traitorous, mean thing. Not to mention he's (books) naked. COME ON! He's been around for 500 years or so, there's no way his clothes lasted that long, even as rags.

Aside from the nakedness, he annoys the heck out of all the other contestants. They have enough problems as it is, without him going on about "his precious" and fish. And the arguments he has with himself is just plain creepy...

[Formendacil]

++Thranduil

Let's throw HIM into a dark, lonely dungeon, and see how HE likes it!

[Gil-Galad]

++ Elrond

[Anguirel]

What have people got against the royal houses of the Sindar?

I support exiling the toerag Gollum; and all those who wish to save the last Elvenking on Middle-earth should vote with me...

++ILL-FAVOURED GANGREL CREATURE

[the guy who be short]

++GollumWhat is with people and destroying Elves?

[Koneko]

Elf envy. Personally, my favourite is Glorfindel.

++Thranduil ... I'm too fond of poor tortured Gollum.

[The Saucepan Man]

I'm glad to see that the Elven tribe has been thinned out in my absence. But there are still far too many of the self-centered, pointy-eared xenophobes running around on the island for my liking. So I will go with the popular choice today:

++ THRANDUIL

His exclusive parties are still causing a problem for morale. If you ask me, he is at the centre of this Elf-superiority thing which has been so divisive on the island. Without him, perhaps the remaining Elves will integrate better (and therefore give us less reason to be rid of them).

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Originally Posted by Alcarillo

She goes off to battle disguised as a man and you call it a mood swing?

No i call that fraud ! ! !

We can not have Eowyn on this island when she comids Impersonation fraud and steal other peoples identitys. This will undermine the whole structure of our little society, not to mention the voting system ! ! !

How would you like it if you woke up one morning and your identity was stolen ?

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man

I'm glad to see that the Elven tribe has been thinned out in my absence. But there are still far too many of the self-centered, pointy-eared xenophobes running around on the island

Xenophobes? So the answer to alleged Xenophobia is Ethnic Cleansing?


++Gollum

[Celuien]

Finally, we can work on getting rid of

++ GOLLUM.

I only hope that enough of you will realize that Thranduil is more of an asset to our community than...

some new terror abroad, a ghost that drank blood. It climbed trees to find nests; it crept into holes to find the young; it slipped through windows to find cradles.

...as the Woodmen described old Stinker.

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

No i call that fraud ! ! !

We can not have Eowyn on this island when she comids Impersonation fraud and steal other peoples identitys. This will undermine the whole structure of our little society, not to mention the voting system ! ! !

How would you like it if you woke up one morning and your identity was stolen ?

This only has a basis if there was a real Dernhelm. And as for your last comment - you can get very efficient shredders very cheaply these days....

[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

Xenophobes? So the answer to alleged Xenophobia is Ethnic Cleansing?

Hey! It's only a game show.

Like Hairdressers in Big Brother, the Elves seem to think that they have an Eru-given right to be on the island, so they need a reality check every so often. I don't want to get rid of all the Elves. I just want to make sure that things are kept even. Unlike the self-styled "Elf Alliance", which wants to purify the island of all but Elves ...

Once the Elvish numbers are checked, I am quite happy to move on to the next strongest tribe. The arguments against Eowyn are persuasive, but I really dislike the "goody-two-shoes" types, so Faramir looks a safe bet for my next vote.

[Lalaith]

Yes, Faramir is also on my "to do" list.


However, be warned that any attempt to evict Eowyn from this island will bring upon you a fell wrath that will make Anguirel's fury over Celeborn look like a toddler's tiff.
Ditto Lobelia or Galadriel. I shall defend the triple aspect of femininity - Maiden, Mother and Crone - to the death.
But for now, I will happily see the amphibious back of
++GOLLUM

[Kath]

++THRANDUIL

Whoever said he was an asset, what planet are you living on? I know, I know, you said more of one than Gollum - sorry, more important than the creature that rid Middle Earth of the Ring? Sure! The guy did nothing more than spawn (love that phrase) Legolas! Please don't let him create the like again! And he doesn't seem like a great father for all that either, I mean think about it, the others get introduced like so:

Aragorn son of Arathorn
Gimli son of Gloin

Then Leggy - Legolas of the woodland realm - no mention of a father.

[Celuien]

Originally Posted by Kath

++THRANDUIL

Whoever said he was an asset, what planet are you living on? I know, I know, you said more of one than Gollum - sorry, more important than the creature that rid Middle Earth of the Ring? Sure! The guy did nothing more than spawn (love that phrase) Legolas!

Uh-hum. So there was no leadership involved in keeping at least some part of Mirkwood clear of Sauron's creatures when he was in residence at Dol Guldur.

And it's not as if Gollum meant to save Middle-earth by accidentally falling into Mount Doom with the Ring.

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by Celuien

Uh-hum. So there was no leadership involved in keeping at least some part of Mirkwood clear of Sauron's creatures when he was in residence at Dol Guldur.

And it's not as if Gollum meant to save Middle-earth by accidentally falling into Mount Doom with the Ring.

All the elves did when he entered Mirkwood was retreat from that part that he occupied. So yes I guess it was because of his leadership that they they kept some part of Mirkwood. Sauron didn't intend to capture Mirkwood entirely at that time.

[Pallando]

Originally Posted by Kath

Aragorn son of Arathorn
Gimli son of Gloin
Then Leggy - Legolas of the woodland realm - no mention of a father.

How many elves have "Name son/daughter of Name"? They go by "Name of Place or by attach a title to their name.
Men and Dwarves require this because they are mortal, they die eventually. Elves live forever, so there's not much of a chance that there will be fifty thousand other elves that share their name.

[Anguirel]

...disseminating a wee bit of propaganda. Those of you who plan to vote or have voted for Thranduil, take a minute to peruse this well-written and readable essay-

http://henneth-annun.net/stories/cha...56&SPOrdinal=1

By voting for Thranduil, you are following a stereotype trod by thousands of Legolas fangirls, demonising the "evil father"; and neglecting the evidence in the Hobbit and the LOTR appendices, which definitely settles on Thranduil being a good, even great king. Remember also that he was the last Elvenking on Middle-earth; truly the last whose realm was free, if not "fair and free", of ancient Sindarin race and great practical abilities.

You are also rejecting the closest Tolkien's Elves come to a truly beautiful and chilling piece of our folklore; the fay wood-dwellers, the Hunters of the forests, in a word, the elfin-court, as celebrated in its marvellous, terrifying brilliance in ballads like Tam Lin:

"I used to go out hunting
But I fell from my horse one day.
The Queen of Fairies captured me
And in their land I must stay.


"The faerie land is a pleasant place
But there's a darker side as well.
At the end of every seven years
They make a sacrifice to hell.

Later on:

The faerie horses came riding by
In the middle of the night
And some were black and some were brown
But Tam Lin's was milk-white.


She pulled him down from off his horse
With her arms around his shape.
The faerie court gave an angry yell
"Tam Lin is trying to escape!"

And:

At last he was himself again
So she wrapped him in her cloak.
She was rejoicing in her victory
When the Queen of Faeries spoke.


"If I had know, Tam Lin," she says
"that you were up to no good
I'd have taken out your green eyes
and put in eyes of wood."


"If I had known, Tam Lin," she says
"you would have always been alone!
For I'd have taken out your mortal heart
And put in a heart of stone."

Incredible, heartrending, poetic tradition; represented by Thranduil the Elvenking. I entreat you all, if you are swayed, change your votes to Gollum.

[Formendacil]

Originally Posted by Anguirel

By voting for Thranduil, you are following a stereotype trod by thousands of Legolas fangirls, demonising the "evil father"; and neglecting the evidence in the Hobbit and the LOTR appendices, which definitely settles on Thranduil being a good, even great king. Remember also that he was the last Elvenking on Middle-earth; truly the last whose realm was free, if not "fair and free", of ancient Sindarin race and great practical abilities.

Is that any less a reason to ly... er... ship him off the island? What need do they have of a loving father now that they have killed... er shipped off his progeny? For that matter, what need to they have of fair and free Elvenkings?

Furthermore, as the evidence of Tolkien's work will show, Thranduil has clearly been spreading anti-Dwarven xenophobia. The Elves and the Dwarves are both small, non-human tribes as of now, and really ought to be working together against that insidious menace which is everyone else...

Originally Posted by Anguirel

You are also rejecting the closest Tolkien's Elves come to a truly beautiful and chilling piece of our folklore; the fay wood-dwellers, the Hunters of the forests, in a word, the elfin-court, as celebrated in its marvellous, terrifying brilliance in ballads like Tam Lin:

Beautiful and chilling? Fay wood-dwellers? Marvelous, terrifying brilliance?

Allow me to remind me you of the true meanings of "chilling", "fay", and "terrifying". Basically, you are saying that you want to save a cold, crazy, and scary Elflord? At least Gollum's down-to-earth...

[Anguirel]

If you insist on cheapening this, then I would argue that a "cold, scary, crazy Elf-Lord" "makes better TV" than some inarticulate product of the grimy Hobbit underclass.

Besides, with poor Celeborn gone, there's every chance of illicit romance with Galadriel...what gets better viewing than that?

[Glirdan]

WOW!!! People are really starting to get on each others last nerves!! I think we should have a BD Survivor!! Oh!! Right. We have that already..... I never knew that what me and Folwren started would bring this much fun and rivlary and so much competitiveness!!! Awsome!!!

What has Eowyn done? She never did any harm! She helped us be rid of that stupid evil Witch-King!! Now if that isn't an accomplishment in life, than I don't know what is.

[The Perky Ent]

...I just voted for him because he's hogging the wine...

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

--Eowyn++Gollum

[Folwren]

I don't know where Boromir is, but you all may be interested in knowing that the voting is over for today, and the one who say goodbye is...Thranduil. Wow. Didn't expect that. It was a vote of seven to nine. Gollum was almost as bad as an orc...I would have been alright with that.

Farewell, Thranduil.

I'll leave the rest to Boromir to fix up.

-- Folwren