Question bout FotR - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Barodir · 01-05-2003, 11:48 AM

In FotR, at the Mirror of Galadriel, Frodo looks at it and sees the images of Legolas, Merry and Pippin, Sam, and then the Shire being destroyed. But why is Legolas in there?! He's not a Hobbit, nor does he live near the Shire! Can anyone answer this for me?

LePetitChoux · 01-05-2003, 11:54 AM

Ah, but he sees members of the fellowship turning away. This is supposed to say "You're on your own, nobody is absolutely faithful. I think.

Barodir · 01-05-2003, 11:56 AM

If that's the reason, why weren't Aragorn, Gimli and Boromir shown?

FarathrimMaiden · 01-05-2003, 04:26 PM

Well, understand more is said of what Frodo sees in the book, have you read fotr yet? If you havnt i reccomnend you do, you will get a nice little surprise involving Galadriel's mirror.

Barodir · 01-05-2003, 04:35 PM

I have read FotR, thanks you. My question was on the movie, not the book. Can you answer it?

Nurumaiel · 01-05-2003, 04:43 PM

Have you seen the extended version of FOTR? Sam, Merry, Pippin, and Legolas in the mirror are scenes from the extended version.

mollecon · 01-05-2003, 04:45 PM

Huh? But Frodo doesn't only see one image, he sees several - not necessarily linked geographically & in time...

Barodir · 01-05-2003, 04:59 PM

Look, the question is simple: Why is Legolas there? He's the only non-Hobbit shown in the mirror. Why?

maikafanawen · 01-05-2003, 06:19 PM

what kind of answer are you looking for?Maybe he's supposed to represent the elves in the fact that he is completely alone in this and not even the [elves] can't help him. (since now that Gandalf's gone elves are most powerful) ??? I'm just throughing that out there ???

Barodir · 01-05-2003, 08:44 PM

That could be it, but why werent dwarves and men represented then? I'm completely confused now.

Faye Took · 01-05-2003, 10:23 PM

Hehe I agree with FarathrimMaiden. If you read the FotR, you'll see.

01-06-2003, 11:50 PM

It would have taken a bit more time to show each and every person. Legolas was just one of the people. There were images that Frodo saw that we did not see. He didn't see just nothing when the camera showed him or Galadriel. If they had shown everyone BUT Legolas you'd probably be asking why they didn't show him insted of vice versa. He symbolized all of them in a sense.

Pookabunny · 01-07-2003, 12:58 AM

Maybe they...uh...messed up?

doug*platypus · 01-15-2003, 07:14 AM

As was said above, look at the extended version. It will then make sense. But you probably still won't like it. I don't. And why wasn't Sam allowed to look, as well? Great scene, but it could have been a little better. What ever happened to foreshadowing?

01-05-2003, 11:48 AM	#1
Barodir Animated Skeleton Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Minas Tirith (err...New Jersey) Posts: 46	Question bout FotR In FotR, at the Mirror of Galadriel, Frodo looks at it and sees the images of Legolas, Merry and Pippin, Sam, and then the Shire being destroyed. <P>But why is Legolas in there?! He's not a Hobbit, nor does he live near the Shire! Can anyone answer this for me? __________________ " If you don't let me in Frodo, I shall blow your door right down your hole and out through the hill." -Gandalf

01-05-2003, 11:54 AM	#2
LePetitChoux Vegetable of Doom Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: London Posts: 720	Ah, but he sees <I>members of the fellowship turning away</I>. This is supposed to say "You're on your own, nobody is absolutely faithful.<BR>I think. __________________ je suis une bonne odeur

01-05-2003, 11:56 AM	#3
Barodir Animated Skeleton Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Minas Tirith (err...New Jersey) Posts: 46	If that's the reason, why weren't Aragorn, Gimli and Boromir shown? __________________ " If you don't let me in Frodo, I shall blow your door right down your hole and out through the hill." -Gandalf

01-05-2003, 04:26 PM	#4
FarathrimMaiden Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wandering the Shores of Middle-earth Posts: 21	Well, understand more is said of what Frodo sees in the book, have you read fotr yet? If you havnt i reccomnend you do, you will get a nice little surprise involving Galadriel's mirror. __________________ Not All Those Who Wander Are Lost. Frodo most certainly does live. "Will you look into my mirror?" "What will I see?"

01-05-2003, 04:35 PM	#5
Barodir Animated Skeleton Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Minas Tirith (err...New Jersey) Posts: 46	I have read FotR, thanks you. My question was on the <I>movie</I>, not the book. Can you answer it? __________________ " If you don't let me in Frodo, I shall blow your door right down your hole and out through the hill." -Gandalf

01-05-2003, 04:43 PM	#6
Nurumaiel Vice of Twilight Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: on a mountain Posts: 1,121	Have you seen the extended version of FOTR? Sam, Merry, Pippin, and Legolas in the mirror are scenes from the extended version. __________________ In the fury of the moment I can see the Master's hand in every leaf that trembles, in every grain of sand.

01-05-2003, 04:45 PM	#7
mollecon Wight Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 188	Huh? But Frodo doesn't only see one image, he sees several - not necessarily linked geographically & in time...

01-05-2003, 04:59 PM	#8
Barodir Animated Skeleton Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Minas Tirith (err...New Jersey) Posts: 46	Look, the question is simple: Why is Legolas there? He's the only non-Hobbit shown in the mirror. Why? __________________ " If you don't let me in Frodo, I shall blow your door right down your hole and out through the hill." -Gandalf

01-05-2003, 06:19 PM	#9
maikafanawen Tears of Simbelmynë Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Beast's Castle Posts: 705	what kind of answer are you looking for?<P>Maybe he's supposed to represent the elves in the fact that he is completely alone in this and not even the [elves] can't help him. (since now that Gandalf's gone elves are most powerful) <P>??? I'm just throughing that out there ??? __________________ "They call this war a cloud over the land. But they made the weather and then they stand in the rain and say, 'Sht, it's raining!'" -- Ruby, Cold Mountain*

01-05-2003, 08:44 PM	#10
Barodir Animated Skeleton Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Minas Tirith (err...New Jersey) Posts: 46	That could be it, but why werent dwarves and men represented then? I'm completely confused now. __________________ " If you don't let me in Frodo, I shall blow your door right down your hole and out through the hill." -Gandalf

01-05-2003, 10:23 PM	#11
Faye Took Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 343	Hehe I agree with FarathrimMaiden. If you read the FotR, you'll see. __________________ Dream-of the ones who came before. They are calling from across a distant shore. My Blog

01-06-2003, 11:50 PM	#12
Arwen the Evenstar Guest Posts: n/a	It would have taken a bit more time to show each and every person. Legolas was just one of the people. There were images that Frodo saw that we did not see. He didn't see just nothing when the camera showed him or Galadriel. If they had shown everyone BUT Legolas you'd probably be asking why they didn't show him insted of vice versa. He symbolized all of them in a sense.

01-07-2003, 12:58 AM	#13
Pookabunny Wight Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The only place that matters! Posts: 181	Maybe they...uh...messed up? __________________ "I love you more than I did the week before, I discovered alcohol" - Bare Naked Ladies

01-15-2003, 07:14 AM	#14
doug*platypus Delver in the Deep Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Aotearoa Posts: 960	As was said above, <B>look at the extended version</B>. It will then make sense. But you probably still won't like it. I don't. And why wasn't Sam allowed to look, as well? Great scene, but it could have been a little better. What ever happened to foreshadowing? __________________ But Gwindor answered: 'The doom lies in yourself, not in your name'.

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