What type of Elvish do they use? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Namarie · 12-23-2002, 01:44 PM

What type of Elvish do they use in the movies? Does anybody know?

Krumtakh the Obtuse · 12-23-2002, 03:23 PM

This might not be right, but when I was watching the FOTR extended edition VHS with closed captioning on, during the scene on Caradhras (sp?) when Saruman is sending the snow or whatever, says something like this:Saruman: [Chanting in Quenya] and Gandalf: [Chants in Sindarin]

Namarie · 12-23-2002, 04:39 PM

O! So I guess they use both...? lol well I was wondering more along the lines of what Aragorn spoke to Legolas and Arwen.So I guess my REAL question would be which "tribe" of elves are the grey elves? Are the mirkwood elves the grey elves? noo...I thought they were the Green elves..cause legolas GREENleaf .I'm SO confused.

The Fifth · 12-24-2002, 01:05 PM

Aragorn was speaking Sindarin.The 'tribe' of Elves that are the Grey Elves are the Sindarin. Mirkwood elves are Silvan, or green. Legolas' name has nothing to do with this.

PippinSqueak · 12-24-2002, 05:57 PM

I think Legolas speaks Quenya. That's all i know.

Nieninque · 12-24-2002, 06:27 PM

Quenya is 'high-Elven speech' and Sindarin is the more common, day-to-day speech. I'd assume most elves know both.

Namarie · 12-24-2002, 07:55 PM

Yeah so Im guessing Aragorn speaks to Legolas in Sindarin and to arwen in sindarin but when arwen speaks to galadriel or her father for example she would use Quenya.

doug*platypus · 12-26-2002, 07:36 AM

Elvish. Hmmm... one of my many 'bugbears' about the movie is the flippant way that characters move in and out of languages, and the inconsistencies in providing subtitles. I realise that multilingual people often use more than one language in a conversation, but in the movies this gets pretty distracting. Why would Arwen and Elrond not talk to each other in Elvish the WHOLE TIME? And why do we get subtitles in some cases (Aragorn/Arwen) but not in others (Gandalf spouting Rohirric at King Theoden)?? It just bugs me...

12-23-2002, 01:44 PM	#1
Namarie Pile O'Bones Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: USA Posts: 18	What type of Elvish do they use? What type of Elvish do they use in the movies? Does anybody know? __________________ "Yes, we've had one breakfast, but what aobut second breakfast?"

12-23-2002, 03:23 PM	#2
Krumtakh the Obtuse Pile O'Bones Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 23	This might not be right, but when I was watching the FOTR extended edition VHS with closed captioning on, during the scene on Caradhras (sp?) when Saruman is sending the snow or whatever, says something like this:<P>Saruman: [Chanting in Quenya]<BR> and<BR>Gandalf: [Chants in Sindarin]

12-23-2002, 04:39 PM	#3
Namarie Pile O'Bones Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: USA Posts: 18	O! So I guess they use both...? lol well I was wondering more along the lines of what Aragorn spoke to Legolas and Arwen.<P>So I guess my REAL question would be which "tribe" of elves are the grey elves? Are the mirkwood elves the grey elves? noo...I thought they were the Green elves..cause legolas GREENleaf .I'm SO confused. __________________ "Yes, we've had one breakfast, but what aobut second breakfast?"

12-24-2002, 01:05 PM	#4
The Fifth Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2002 Location: Mordor Posts: 427	Aragorn was speaking Sindarin.<P>The 'tribe' of Elves that are the Grey Elves are the Sindarin. Mirkwood elves are Silvan, or green. Legolas' name has nothing to do with this. __________________ - Ringwraith #5, Servant of the Eye

12-24-2002, 05:57 PM	#5
PippinSqueak Pile O'Bones Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Edoras Posts: 25	I think Legolas speaks Quenya. That's all i know. __________________ "What are tatters?" "Po-ta-to"

12-24-2002, 06:27 PM	#6
Nieninque Haunting Spirit Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: East Bight Posts: 67	Quenya is 'high-Elven speech' and Sindarin is the more common, day-to-day speech. I'd assume most elves know both. __________________ ----- Legolas: A red sun rises in the East. Blood has been spilt this night. Aragorn: Goddamn elf's talking to himself again! I'm surrounded by weirdos...

12-24-2002, 07:55 PM	#7
Namarie Pile O'Bones Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: USA Posts: 18	Yeah so Im guessing Aragorn speaks to Legolas in Sindarin and to arwen in sindarin but when arwen speaks to galadriel or her father for example she would use Quenya. __________________ "Yes, we've had one breakfast, but what aobut second breakfast?"

12-26-2002, 07:36 AM	#8
doug*platypus Delver in the Deep Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Aotearoa Posts: 960	Elvish. Hmmm... one of my many 'bugbears' about the movie is the flippant way that characters move in and out of languages, and the inconsistencies in providing subtitles. I realise that multilingual people often use more than one language in a conversation, but in the movies this gets pretty distracting. Why would Arwen and Elrond not talk to each other in Elvish the WHOLE TIME? And why do we get subtitles in some cases (Aragorn/Arwen) but not in others (Gandalf spouting Rohirric at King Theoden)?? It just bugs me... __________________ But Gwindor answered: 'The doom lies in yourself, not in your name'.

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