North, east, south, what? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

dancing spawn of ungoliant · 09-01-2003, 10:16 AM

I got very confused in that scene where Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli meet Éomer. When Éomer leaves with his men he says "Look for your friends, but do not trust the hope. It has forsaken these lands We ride north!!" .The Fellowship broke near of the falls of Rauros.A,L and G headed to the Fangorn forest after the Uruk-hai so they travelled to north-west (I'm looking at my M-E map now). They met Éomer somewhere near of Fangorn. In the movie A,L and G run across a hill and hide behind a rock. Rohirrim appear behind that hill (well, you know that scene) so they are riding south-east.When they leave they don't head to north like Éomer said but something like to east or north-east. Am I a)wrong b)nit-picking or c)have I messed up with the point of the compass ? But that really confuses/annoys me.I have noticed that the 'easterlings coming from south' thing have upset some of the Downers but I'm not participating in that conversation. But feel free to do so here.ps.Legolas trips twice (or so it seems)[ September 02, 2003: Message edited by: dancing spawn of ungoliant ]

HCIsland · 09-01-2003, 10:42 AM

I honestly can't see how you can tell which direction Eomer rides off in considering they circle Aragorn and company. How can you keep track of which direction is what?Editted to add: Oh wait, I see what you mean. Considering they are approaching the south-east corner of Fangorn, I think describing the general course of the journey into The Wold as north would be about right even though it may be north-by-north-east. I guess next time Eomer should give a compass bearing. And has been noted in another thread, Easterlings coming from the south is not wrong if they took the Harad road. I think the only honest screw up with direction is when Legalas says, "they are heading north-east to Isengard." Oops.H.C.[ September 01, 2003: Message edited by: HCIsland ]

Elentári · 09-01-2003, 11:03 AM

Ok, I'm really bad at directions...so should they have been heading north-west to Isengard then? And I'm doing geography gcse!!! Oh well... About that scene, they shouldn't have been riding north anyhow. In the book they came from the north! And they were riding back south or something...

mollecon · 09-01-2003, 01:47 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>...so should they have been heading north-west to Isengard then?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Yes. <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>About that scene, they shouldn't have been riding north anyhow. In the book they came from the north! And they were riding back south or something.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Huh? Yes, the Eorlings came from north - but that was some 500 years ago. Eomér & his men are only trying to get away from the bannish they got. Riding back south? How do you figure?

Sauron 666 · 09-02-2003, 10:55 AM

I guess PJ and cew aren't very adept in basic geography, now I know who NOT to go on a camping trip with

Elentári · 09-02-2003, 12:00 PM

Well I 'figured' (hehehe, what a funny word!!!) it from the fact that Aragorn hailed Éomer and said 'What news from the North?' From that I took it that the Riders had just ridden from the North. And they were continuing south. But I could be wrong.[ September 02, 2003: Message edited by: Elentári ]

Finnguala · 09-02-2003, 12:36 PM

Whoa! You people are VERY confusing... But what I wanted to say is this:"Riders of Rohan! What news from the Mark?!" (is what Aragorn said)So, it hasn't anything to do with North or South or whatever... (no offense!!!!!! )

09-01-2003, 10:16 AM	#1
dancing spawn of ungoliant Mischievous Candle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: So near to Russia, so far from Japan, quite a long way from Cairo, lots of miles from Vietnam. Posts: 1,234	North, east, south, what? I got very confused in that scene where Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli meet Éomer. When Éomer leaves with his men he says "Look for your friends, but do not trust the hope. It has forsaken these lands <I>We ride north!!" </I>.<P>The Fellowship broke near of the falls of Rauros.A,L and G headed to the Fangorn forest after the Uruk-hai so they travelled to north-west (I'm looking at my M-E map now). They met Éomer somewhere near of Fangorn. In the movie A,L and G run across a hill and hide behind a rock. Rohirrim appear behind that hill (well, you know that scene) so they are riding south-east.<P>When they leave they don't head to north like Éomer said but something like to east or north-east. Am I a)wrong b)nit-picking or c)have I messed up with the point of the compass ? But that really confuses/annoys me.<P>I have noticed that the 'easterlings coming from south' thing have upset some of the Downers but I'm not participating in that conversation. But feel free to do so here.<P>ps.Legolas trips twice (or so it seems)<p>[ September 02, 2003: Message edited by: dancing spawn of ungoliant ] __________________ Fenris Wolf

09-01-2003, 10:42 AM	#2
HCIsland Zombie Cannibal Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,000	I honestly can't see how you can tell which direction Eomer rides off in considering they circle Aragorn and company. How can you keep track of which direction is what?<P>Editted to add: Oh wait, I see what you mean. Considering they are approaching the south-east corner of Fangorn, I think describing the general course of the journey into The Wold as north would be about right even though it may be north-by-north-east. I guess next time Eomer should give a compass bearing. <P>And has been noted in another thread, Easterlings coming from the south is not wrong if they took the Harad road. I think the only honest screw up with direction is when Legalas says, "they are heading north-east to Isengard." Oops.<P>H.C.<p>[ September 01, 2003: Message edited by: HCIsland ] __________________ "Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs." -Denethor

09-01-2003, 11:03 AM	#3
Elentári Wight Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Up a tree somewhere in Caras Galadhon... Posts: 113	Ok, I'm really bad at directions...so should they have been heading north-west to Isengard then? And I'm doing geography gcse!!! Oh well... <BR>About that scene, they shouldn't have been riding north anyhow. In the book they came from the north! And they were riding back south or something... __________________ Dotard! What is the house of Eorl but a thatched barn where brigands drink in the reek, and their brats roll on the floor among the dogs? Spread the word! The 1st annual Golden Ring Marathon! October 20th 2005! Tell Everyone! Frodo Lives!

09-01-2003, 01:47 PM	#4
mollecon Wight Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 188	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>...so should they have been heading north-west to Isengard then?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Yes.<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>About that scene, they shouldn't have been riding north anyhow. In the book they came from the north! And they were riding back south or something.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Huh? Yes, the Eorlings came from north - but that was some 500 years ago. Eomér & his men are only trying to get away from the bannish they got. Riding back south? How do you figure?

09-02-2003, 10:55 AM	#5
Sauron 666 Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 59	I guess PJ and cew aren't very adept in basic geography, now I know who NOT to go on a camping trip with __________________ Ash Nazg Durbatuluk Ash Nazg Gimbatul Ash Nazg Thrakatuluk Arg Burzum-Ishi Krimpatul

09-02-2003, 12:00 PM	#6
Elentári Wight Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Up a tree somewhere in Caras Galadhon... Posts: 113	Well I 'figured' (hehehe, what a funny word!!!) it from the fact that Aragorn hailed Éomer and said 'What news from the North?' From that I took it that the Riders had just ridden from the North. And they were continuing south. But I could be wrong.<p>[ September 02, 2003: Message edited by: Elentári ] __________________ Dotard! What is the house of Eorl but a thatched barn where brigands drink in the reek, and their brats roll on the floor among the dogs? Spread the word! The 1st annual Golden Ring Marathon! October 20th 2005! Tell Everyone! Frodo Lives!

09-02-2003, 12:36 PM	#7
Finnguala Wight Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Lothlorien Posts: 124	Whoa! You people are VERY confusing... <P>But what I wanted to say is this:<P>"Riders of Rohan! What news from the <B>Mark</B>?!" (is what Aragorn said)<P>So, it hasn't anything to do with North or South or whatever... (no offense!!!!!! ) __________________ ~'Autha Lun Tana Voima Te Vereni Vahve Maksi'~