Gandalf and Aragorn - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

dunadan_aragorn · 04-04-2003, 09:28 AM

I have to say, although I was very VERY happy with the outcome of both movies, I was a little dissapointed that the relationship between Gandalf and Aragorn was not shown. In the extended dvd Aragorn refers to himself as "a friend of Gandalf's" and when they are leaving Bree it is clear that Strider has told them that he is a friend of Gandalf's, based on Merry's comment, "How do we know this Strider is a friend of Gandalf's?" but hat is pretty much it. The appendices tell a lot about how they were friends, and the council; of Elrond sequence told how Gandalf went to Aragorn for help.

HCIsland · 04-04-2003, 09:32 AM

In the directors commentary PJ talks about how he would have loved to put in Gandalf's and Aragorn's hunt for Gollum, but there simply wasn't the time. I think that's all it comes down to, time.H.C.

Elotareth · 04-04-2003, 09:35 PM

Same reason they had to cut the songs. Dang producers!

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 04-06-2003, 12:40 PM

I agree that its a shame. Just remember that there are so many more examples of parts getting left out. I would still have loved three five-hour films though!

Burzdol · 04-07-2003, 01:07 PM

Why stick at five hours, when we can go longer?~Burzdol~

Arwen Evenstar the Fair · 04-07-2003, 01:14 PM

Whoa, they had songs planned for the movie??!!!!! Awesome! I wish they would have put them in. And yes, I agree they should have showed a little more of the relationship between Aragorn and Gandalf... but like you say, it all comes down to time.

04-07-2003, 01:17 PM

I agree on the length. I would have loved for them to have been 5-6 hours long. I still would go see them as much as possible in theaters. I'm worried about RotK though. If they cut the end of TTT out of the movie, what will they have to cut from RotK to fit in Shelob?

Peri · 04-07-2003, 01:31 PM

Yeah, but even in the books you really don't see too much of the friendship between the two. They really don't have time to sit down and reminise(sp?) either for the fact that they are almost always fighting for their lives. Maybe we will see more of their friendship in the third movie.

Gorwingel · 04-07-2003, 01:34 PM

I happen to think that the relationship between Aragorn and Gandalf was displayed very well in the films. I have to agree that in the book they just did not show very much about their relationship, so it was just something that they didn't have to show much of. (Oh, and Aragorn did sing a little bit in the Extended Edition)

kittiewhirl1677 · 04-07-2003, 06:02 PM

I don't know... You see, it's true that in the book, there's so much more on the relationship between Aragorn and Gandalf. It's just that in the movie(s), They always seem to be seperated. Whenever they meet - OH! NO! We're going to fall if I don't leave now! Sorry, (Aragorn of Gandalf), I need to leave! - So I'm sure that if they had a 5-6 hour movie, they would have shown them spending a lot of their time together and they would have shown the relationship. -Maya

Burzdol · 04-07-2003, 06:46 PM

PJ could have done alot better on that. Especally since it was a major part of the books, I just don't get it.~Burzdol~

HCIsland · 04-07-2003, 08:39 PM

It was?H.C.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 04-08-2003, 06:21 AM

Come on, Eowyn slaying the Witch King was a major part of the book. Gandalf's friendship with Aragorn was a minor part.

Arafangwen · 04-09-2003, 05:34 PM

I think you have a good point, P.J. should have added more of thier relatioship to screen.

sassyfriend · 09-02-2011, 03:38 PM

Wish we did have like a whole year of those movies!!!!!!!!! I am a fan and proud of it!!!!! I still wanted to see their friendship too!!!!!

04-04-2003, 09:28 AM	#1
dunadan_aragorn Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: the bowels of Moria Posts: 105	Gandalf and Aragorn I have to say, although I was very VERY happy with the outcome of both movies, I was a little dissapointed that the relationship between Gandalf and Aragorn was not shown. In the extended dvd Aragorn refers to himself as "a friend of Gandalf's" and when they are leaving Bree it is clear that Strider has told them that he is a friend of Gandalf's, based on Merry's comment, "How do we know this Strider is a friend of Gandalf's?" but hat is pretty much it. The appendices tell a lot about how they were friends, and the council; of Elrond sequence told how Gandalf went to Aragorn for help. __________________ Allia Octa Est, The Die is Cast -Julius Ceaser

04-04-2003, 09:32 AM	#2
HCIsland Zombie Cannibal Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,000	In the directors commentary PJ talks about how he would have loved to put in Gandalf's and Aragorn's hunt for Gollum, but there simply wasn't the time. I think that's all it comes down to, time.<P>H.C. __________________ "Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs." -Denethor

04-04-2003, 09:35 PM	#3
Elotareth Animated Skeleton Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Rivendell Posts: 34	Same reason they had to cut the songs. Dang producers! __________________ "And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age." Matthew 28:20 "Renewed shall be blade that was broken, the crownless again shall be king"

04-06-2003, 12:40 PM	#4
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	I agree that its a shame. Just remember that there are so many more examples of parts getting left out. <P>I would still have loved three five-hour films though! __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

04-07-2003, 01:07 PM	#5
Burzdol Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Fair City of Rivendell Posts: 274	Why stick at five hours, when we can go longer?<P>~Burzdol~ __________________ "Kill them all for all I care. You just keep that bow away from me!"

04-07-2003, 01:14 PM	#6
Arwen Evenstar the Fair Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: Gondor Posts: 235	Whoa, they had songs planned for the movie??!!!!! Awesome! I wish they would have put them in.<BR>And yes, I agree they should have showed a little more of the relationship between Aragorn and Gandalf... but like you say, it all comes down to time. __________________ ~Arwen~

04-07-2003, 01:17 PM	#7
Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged Guest Posts: n/a	I agree on the length. I would have loved for them to have been 5-6 hours long. I still would go see them as much as possible in theaters. I'm worried about RotK though. If they cut the end of TTT out of the movie, what will they have to cut from RotK to fit in Shelob?

04-07-2003, 01:31 PM	#8
Peri Wight Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Rivendell Posts: 124	Yeah, but even in the books you really don't see too much of the friendship between the two. They really don't have time to sit down and reminise(sp?) either for the fact that they are almost always fighting for their lives. Maybe we will see more of their friendship in the third movie. __________________ "Ah, but I'll begowk ye there!" cried the gentleman. "Play me false, and I'll play you cunning."

04-07-2003, 01:34 PM	#9
Gorwingel Beholder of the Mists Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Somewhere in the Northwest... for now Posts: 1,419	I happen to think that the relationship between Aragorn and Gandalf was displayed very well in the films. I have to agree that in the book they just did not show very much about their relationship, so it was just something that they didn't have to show much of. (Oh, and Aragorn did sing a little bit in the Extended Edition) __________________ Wanted - Wonderfully witty quote that consists of pure brilliance

04-07-2003, 06:02 PM	#10
kittiewhirl1677 Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Living Hell Posts: 255	I don't know... You see, it's true that in the book, there's so much more on the relationship between Aragorn and Gandalf. <P>It's just that in the movie(s), They always seem to be seperated. Whenever they meet - OH! NO! We're going to fall if I don't leave now! Sorry, (Aragorn of Gandalf), I need to leave! - So I'm sure that if they had a 5-6 hour movie, they would have shown them spending a lot of their time together and they would have shown the relationship. <P>-Maya __________________ The world was young, the mountains green. No stain yet on the moon was seen. No words were laid on stream or stone, When Durin woke and walked alone...

04-07-2003, 06:46 PM	#11
Burzdol Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Fair City of Rivendell Posts: 274	PJ could have done alot better on that. Especally since it was a major part of the books, I just don't get it.<P>~Burzdol~ __________________ "Kill them all for all I care. You just keep that bow away from me!"

04-07-2003, 08:39 PM	#12
HCIsland Zombie Cannibal Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,000	It was?<P>H.C. __________________ "Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs." -Denethor

04-08-2003, 06:21 AM	#13
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	Come on, Eowyn slaying the Witch King was a major part of the book. Gandalf's friendship with Aragorn was a minor part. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

04-09-2003, 05:34 PM	#14
Arafangwen Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: WtR: 413 miles/Floating happily across the floor in the arms of The Phantom..... Posts: 361	I think you have a good point, P.J. should have added more of thier relatioship to screen. __________________ i indo ye vanya mi amaurëa cálë~LúcëwenElerínaEruiel Soooo..... I'm still doing the wave, anyone else? Anyone? Yeah!! Hmmm... What is that?

09-02-2011, 03:38 PM	#15
sassyfriend Wight Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 165	Wish we did have like a whole year of those movies!!!!!!!!! I am a fan and proud of it!!!!! I still wanted to see their friendship too!!!!!