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01-11-2003, 05:56 PM | #1 | |
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The Entwives are in the Shire
My best friend and I have decided that the Entwives are almost definitely in the Shire (My bet is on the Old Forest; Tom Bombadil talks about it being incredibly ancient, perhaps even comparable to Fangorn). For one, when Treebeard describes the sort of country the Entwives loved (and thus, left Fangorn to seek), Merry and Pippin comment on how much that sounds like the Shire. Also, there's a passage in The Fellowship where Sam is in a bar having a conversation with some other hobbits:
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01-11-2003, 07:39 PM | #2 |
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Could be...what with Old Man Willow and all the Huornlike trees in the Forest....
However, my bet is that the Entwives were in Lindon. In the First Age, the Ents were definetly in Ossiriand, just west of Ered Luin. My guess is that the Ents and Entwives were seperated when Beleriand sunk, and the Entwives returned to the forests at the western base of the Blue Mountains. My second guesses would be, like you, the Shire, or perhaps Eryn Vorn.
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01-11-2003, 09:47 PM | #3 | |
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You have a very good point!
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01-13-2003, 11:20 AM | #4 | |
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They loved gardening and stuff like that, so they could'nt look like a tree. So, the walking elm in the Shire could not have been an Entwife. Personally, I, too, think that the Entwives are in the Shire, but I fear they are dead by the Third Age.
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01-13-2003, 12:06 PM | #5 |
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well, in a letter tolkein wrote, he said that the entwives were NOT living in the shire at the time of the fellowship. he said that he did not mean to have anything to do with entwives and that when hge was writing the chapters in the begging he did not know that he was going to include ents at all.
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01-13-2003, 07:18 PM | #6 |
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I agree with Lore Master, in fact Tolkien didn't conceive of Ents, he said they just sort of appeared in the Two Towers(take that however you like), therefore he could not have been thinking about them while writing the Fellowship. Still, my friend and I thought for a while that the entwives were in the Shire as well...maybe in his subconscious Tolkien was writing about entwives, he just didn't know it... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]
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01-14-2003, 04:47 AM | #7 |
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Yea, in the 'Retrun of the Shadow' , Treebeard is vaguely mentioned, as being the capturer of Gandalf. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]
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