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06-08-2000, 12:15 PM | #1 |
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Where are the Ents from?
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Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> I haven't found sth. about that neither in the Silmarillion nor somewhere else? Did the just suddenly appeared as if they always existed as the dwarves or where do the come from? And, have they ever found the wifes again? And, do they appear in the film, who knows? </p> |
06-08-2000, 12:24 PM | #2 |
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Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Where are the Ents from? Greetings, young Breakwind <img src=smile.gif ALT=""> In the Silmarillion (Of Aule and Yavanna) it is written that when Yavanna realized that the coming children of Illuvatar would harm much of the rooted beings on earth, she was granted by Eru that her thought of watchers and care-takers for the rooted beings would come to life. These guardians were to be the Ents. It is not known whether they found their wives, but I assume they were slain in the time the Dark Lord came to their lands and turned them into the Brown Lands. I bet they will appear in the film, because it would not make much sense otherwise-Merry and Pippin would have been lost, and Isengard could not have been attacked, and before, Hornburg (Helm“s Deep) would have been lost. </p> |
06-08-2000, 11:26 PM | #3 |
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Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Ents in Silmarillion The ents appear in the Silmarillion:the dwarveswho killed king Thingol from Doriath are slained by Tree Shepherds (I'm traducing directly from Spanish-> Pastor de Įrboles) before they arrive they home town (Nogrod or Belegost I can't remember). These Tree Shepherds are ents, or at least I think so. </p> |
08-22-2000, 04:28 AM | #4 |
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Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Where are the Ents from? More importantly where did the Entwives go? "They come slowly forth and glare"</p> |
08-22-2000, 11:03 AM | #5 |
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<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Pile o' Bones
Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Where are the Ents from? what about the old forest? didnt't merry talk about the trees there moving and attacking the hedge? maybe these were the old entwives or their hourns protecting the forest. treebeard says that the entwives went away long ago so they (the entwives ) could have settled in the old forest way before any hobbit kind were around. </p> |
08-22-2000, 09:28 PM | #6 |
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Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Old Forest The trees attacking the hedge weren't Entwives; more huorn-type trees. The Old Forest and Fangorn were once both part of a huge forest that covered most of Eriador, so it is not surpriseing that much about them is the same. Sam said his cousin saw a 'walking tree, a giant' up away beyond The Water. Optomistically, I have always thought that this was one of the lost Entwives. </p> |
08-24-2000, 11:04 AM | #7 |
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Posts: 0</TD><TD><img src=http://indigo.ie/~owenc/starwars/images/fett.gif WIDTH=60 HEIGHT=60></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/onering.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Old Forest The Entwives could have become Huorns for some reason, just a suggestion. "I find your lack of faith disturbing."- Lord Vader</br> Administrator @ <a href=http://pub6.ezboard.com/bthegrandadmiralsforums>The Grand Admirals Forums</a>, <a href=http://pub9.ezboard.com/bechostation12>Echo Station 12</a>, <a href=http://pub10.ezboard.com/bb5techforums>The Grey Council Forums</a>. </br> Moderator@<a href=http://pub10.ezboard.com/bwattowattasjediorder>Wattowatt's Jedi Order</a>(Misc.& In Depth Discussions), <a href=http://pub14.ezboard.com/bthegrandmoffsforums>The Grand Moff's Forums</a>, <a href=http://pub17.ezboard.com/bexgalsociety>ExGalSociety</a>, <a href=http://pub22.ezboard.com/bpoliticalpoints75696>Political Points</a>(Opinions, Issues,Candidates forums) </p> |
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Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/onering.jpg" align=absmiddle> Entwives they could have become hourons -but all o them? I find it unlikely that they would have returned to living in a forest-they loved fields and gardens. Since they had already left fangorn forest-and they all had relations there I find the complete destruction idea unfortunately , more plausible.<img src=frown.gif ALT=""> </p>
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08-24-2000, 09:37 PM | #9 |
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Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/onering.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Destruction Perhaps they could have hid out in the White Mountains? Or one of the vales in there at least, as this region was mostly unexplored. I partly agree with lindil; the complete destruction theory does seem to fit best. But would the Valar -- Yavanna in particular -- have allowed it? Or Illuvitar? It was he and Yavanna that appionted the Ents to guard the trees. Even though it fits best, I don't think that that theory is true. Some of the Men from nearby said the the Ents that they had seen the Entwives walking off in one direction or another. I don't know where they went, but I believe that they were not destroyed. </p> |
08-25-2000, 03:16 AM | #10 |
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Posts: 0</TD><TD><img src=http://www.earlyng.homestead.com/files/laiva.jpg WIDTH=60 HEIGHT=60></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/nenya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Destruction What if they headed to the wilderness of Beleriand? <HR>"Mind Bilbo doesn't eat all the cakes! He is too fat to get through key-holes yet!" <A HREF=http://pub22.ezboard.com/belvenhome>Elvenhome</A> </p> |
08-25-2000, 11:07 AM | #11 |
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Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/nenya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Wasn't The belierland destroyed at the last war against melkor? </p> |
08-25-2000, 12:09 PM | #12 |
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Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/nenya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Wasn't You mean entwives can't swim? What's a burrahobbit got to do with my pocket, anyways?</p>
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08-25-2000, 12:14 PM | #13 |
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Posts: 0</TD><TD><img src=http://www.earlyng.homestead.com/files/laiva.jpg WIDTH=60 HEIGHT=60></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/nenya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Wasn't <img src=laugh.gif ALT=":lol"> Yes. But I recall that there were some untouched areas in the southern parts. Ossiriand, for instance. <HR>"Mind Bilbo doesn't eat all the cakes! He is too fat to get through key-holes yet!" <A HREF=http://pub22.ezboard.com/belvenhome>Elvenhome</A> </p>Edited by <A HREF=http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile&u=00000136>noldo</A> <IMG SRC=http://www.earlyng.homestead.com/files/222.gif BORDER=0 WIDTH=10 HEIGHT=10> at: 8/25/00 2:16:05 pm |
08-26-2000, 08:43 AM | #14 |
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Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Old Forest Just thinking about the old forest still, what about the withywindle valley, "the queerest part of the whole wood- the centre from which all the queerness comes from" according to Merry.Could this be entwive territory? </p>Edited by <A HREF=http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile&u=00000039>dogtrot</A> at: 8/26/00 10:44:16 am |
08-26-2000, 03:00 PM | #15 |
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Posts: 0</TD><TD><img src=http://hem.passagen.se/wizard_of_illusion/Buttoms/ez/wotsfimage.jpg WIDTH=60 HEIGHT=60></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Old Forest Well, I have gone there for a walk now and I could see nothing that reminded me of Entwives. <img src=smile.gif ALT=""> I think that it is only Huorn-like trees and no Entwives in the Old Forest, the Old Forest is not their style.. <HR> <font size="2" face="Arial">"You cannot pass. I am a servant of the Secret Fire, wielder of the flame of Anor." Usually guarding http://www.theoldforest.cjb.netThe Old Forest website</a>. Walk into the mystical Forest and find everything you need about J. R. R. Tolkien. Also information the new Lord of the Rings movies. Images, news, rumors, art, essays etc. Feel welcome to the ezBoard of the Old Forest, http://pub9.ezboard.com/btheoldforest29887The Bonfire Glade</a>. A place for discussions with other Tolkien fans about almost everything.</p></p> |
09-03-2000, 08:50 PM | #16 |
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Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Where are the Ents from? I am not sure where the Ents came from, personnaly I would love to meet one, even though they might find me a little racy..... In the LOTR Fangorn the well spoken while talking to Merry and Pippin tells them a lot about it, that they were cured of dumbness by the elves of the old times. For the rest, well maybe the silmarillion says more, I cannot remember. </p> |
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*bumps thread up from page 59*
Weren't the Ents just one of the things that, like ole Tom, were just [img]null[/img] there?
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