ROHAN DISCUSSION

[Gilthalion]

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How about a Rohan vs. Isengard adventure in the days when they were first fighting the orcs and half orcs of Saruman before the War of the Ring?

That seems like it would suit the largest number of people.

<center> <u>PEOPLE</u></center>

HOBBITS: Possibly employees of Lotho Sackville-Baggins, making a special delivery of pipeweed to the gates of Isengard?

ORCS/HALF ORCS: A new generation, bred in the service of Sharkey, trained to obey and do the bidding of the wizard.

ELVES: Perhaps scouts from Lothlorien. They would not wish to be in contact with anyone, but might be sent to observe and report.

DUNLENDINGS: These half wild folk have been lured into Saruman's service. They are afraid that Rohan will attack at any moment and think only Saruman and his orcs can save them.

RIDERS OF ROHAN: They serve Theoden King, who sits on the throne in Meduseld. He is grown old and weary.

EASTERLINGS: Mustered to serve the Nazgul at Dol Goldur...


<center> <u>PLACES</u></center>

MORIA: Don't go there!

LOTHLORIEN: Don't go there!

ISENGARD: Don't go there!

...hmmmmmm....looks kind of adventurous!

MEDUSELD: I hope you have a good reason...

HELM'S DEEP: Needs work. Are you here to work?

FANGORN FOREST: Don't go there!


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If you have an ezboard alias that does not fit this scenario, and don't want to create a new alias for the game, just do as we've done in Bree and Mordor.

Certain important characters, such as Theoden, Eomer, Eowyn, Grima, Saruman, Galadriel, Celeborn, etc. should not be used without permission!

Let's try not to break with what is known in the books, though we can bend things a mite. Read the BREE and MORDOR threads and the RULES to get an idea of how we RPG here at the Downs!

Combat rules are the &quot;literary&quot; rules, rather than the &quot;gaming&quot; rules. (Readers of the RPG threads will understand!)

In short, what we do for a major combat is what we did in BREE for the fight between the Beorning and the Wight. On the Barrow Downs chat, we called a series of coin tosses, best 4 out of 7, the winner gets to write, or make the loser write the post. The coin tosses determine the blow by blow account, the writer elaborates.

Please feel free to ask questions and sign in here as you create a character for a ROHAN RPG, coming soon...

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Re: ROHAN DISCUSSION

Yipee!!! A Rohan RPG, just what I always wanted!
Name: Taradan
Height: 6' 1''
Weight: 190lbs.
Hair Color: Black
Belongings: horse Nimroch, Bow and Arrows, A daggar that belonged to his father!
Description: Originally from Gondor, ended up in Rohan at a young age, belonging in Theodred's eored, one of his personal friends, more you'll find out later!


Let me lie here--to keep the Fords till Eomer comes! </p>

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Re: ROHAN DISCUSSION

Can I control Theodred too?
At first I didn't want him because he would get killed, but can I use him foor a secondary background character?

Let me lie here--to keep the Fords till Eomer comes! </p>

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Re: ROHAN DISCUSSION

Name : Samwise Brandybuck
Steed : Swiftfoot the Pony
Affiliation : A friend of Bilbo's
Weapon : A small, daggerlike sword
Gear : Grey cloak and small bag
Surprises : Lots <img src=laugh.gif ALT=":lol">

"I will, Lord." said Tuor.</p>

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Re: ROHAN DISCUSSION

Can I play?
I will be one of the Riders. I'll have to work a bit on my background etc. but I already have my steed, Telefax, who at present is just getting fat and out of condition in the stables of the Chat Room &quot;Prancing Pony&quot;.

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Re: ROHAN DISCUSSION

Of course you can play? I mean, why not?

"I will, Lord." said Tuor.</p>

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Re: ROHAN DISCUSSION

I think I'll pop in shortly after the start, when I see the moment as apt (as I did in Bree).
And I doubt that there will then already be too many of the folk of my character <img src=wink.gif ALT="">

</p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile&u=00000003>Sharku</A> at: 7/26/01 7:07:04 pm

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Re: ROHAN DISCUSSION

I would like to be in. Not a large part or anything, I'll be a Rider of Rohan. I'll post my name and details when I've thought of them...

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Re: ROHAN DISCUSSION

I would like to play, too, if I am allowed to be in two RPG's. Not a big part, though! Maybe I could be another messenger from Gondor :lol

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[The X Phial]

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Re: ROHAN DISCUSSION

Can I be an ent??

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[Gilthalion]

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Re: ROHAN DISCUSSION

Such audacity!

Hoooom. Hooo.

Let's not be hasty! Hmmmmm. Roomty tum hum hooom.

I'm working up a scenario that doesn't go in that direction, off the bat. But you tempt me!

A wandering Ent, perhaps searching for the Entwives, might chance upon the party (or vice versa) from Rohan. Like Sharkey's surprise choice, choosing something like an Ent means waiting for the right moment, which could take a little while.

But, having said that, I'm sure you'll do a fine job! (Having done so well in Bree!)

So, if you are not hasty, then you are welcome to play an Ent!

(Of course, you're also welcome to jump in with any standard character you want, but now you've got my thirst up for some Entdraft!)

</p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile&u=00000006>Gilthali on</A> at: 7/30/01 5:11:03 pm

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Re: ROHAN DISCUSSION

This totally unfair the time my phone-line goes down is the time you decide to start a new RPG! Typical!But i still want to be in i'll try to join in august if that is alright and if it fits the story line of course.

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Re: ROHAN DISCUSSION

Now is a good time to remind folk to read the RULES!

Your posts are held until they can be edited (if necessary) and released.

Try not to do much of another player's playing for them.

Have fun!

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Re: ROHAN DISCUSSION

I just read a certain post, and unfortunately, I had to delete it.

The writer did a very good job of playing another player's character, but that's his job! Please come up with your own character!

Folks, please make sure you are familiar with the rules, or you may waste quite a lot of inspiration and time!

Come up with a character and insert him at an appropriate time. If you want to play a Rider, now would be a good time. There are at least two unnamed Riders who have been mentioned so far, perhaps a couple more nearby, and relief riders on the way.

If you want to waylay Riders, greet Riders, meet Riders, then wait for them, do NOT write for another player in any major way. Each player must be able to make his or her own choices.

We can do a little bit of writing in which, in some minor way, another player's character takes part, but we cannot make major decisions for them.

Oh! And please do not use names used by actual major characters from LOTR. There is a world of other names that can be used!




</p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile&u=00000006>Gilthali on</A> at: 8/2/01 7:37:39 pm

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Re: ROHAN DISCUSSION

Hi Gilthalion, this is Kate from chat in case you didn't know.

I would like to participate when the right time arises, if I may. I'm not sure if I have to put my character's stats, etc., here, but I will to be certain.

Name: Lathwine
Age: Old enough to think she knows everything (and to be offended at requests for the number), yet young enough to look foolish doing so.
Looks: Hideously, piteously ugly.
Attitude: Poses as a wise woman, demanding respect from younger people in a crochety manner. Unbeknownst to her, she's snickered at by all the townspeople.

I gtg now, but I'll jump in if I see an oppurtune time, and if there are any further developments, I'll be sure and let you know.

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[Gilthalion]

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Re: ROHAN DISCUSSION

I see how this could be fun. There may be an opportunity before too long....



</p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile&u=00000006>Gilthali on</A> at: 8/2/01 2:26:11 pm

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This sounds intriguing -- I'm in, if you can accept me as one of the people in the group following Grima. How's this for a back story?

Thenamir is a man, as close to 6 feet even as makes no difference, short hair, beard, and moustache all sandy brown, which made him as different amongst the golden-haired Rohan natives as a Beorning in a group of hobbits. He is stocky but sturdily-built, a layer of fat covering a warrior’s body. He carries a family heirloom sword, Aranbold, and a bow, both wielded with passable skill, along with the normal accoutrements of a Rider of Rohan.

Born to a captain and raised in Minas Tirith, a lot was expected of Thenamir as a youth, and he earned his father’s trust and respect thru sheer will and hard practice and work more than inherited talent. He served under Boromir as a sub-captain (sergeant? Whtever the term is) over 20 good men. He fell in love with and married a fair and charming woman whom he had met in one of the outlying villages northeastward.

One year he was assigned to take his men for a rotating 3-month patrol in the outlying areas, and since it was near the wife’s family, he sent her ahead, planning to meet her there. They were expecting their first child in a few months, and this might be the last opportunity to visit her family for some time.

In the early dawn, just before Thenamir’s company arrived in that village, it was attacked by a band of strange-looking dark men, seeming looters but well organized, who overwhelmed the town’s small defenses and the men Thenamir was to relieve. Seeing the confusion from a distance, the enraged Thenamir rushed his men into the fray, charging the city. The dark men, thinking a larger force had arrived, began to panic and flee. Thenamir charged headlong into the throng, heedlessly hacking left and right, desperately trying to gain the place where he knew his beloved would have been staying.

Berganden was a proud bachelor, subcaptain of the men already in Lossarnach. When he saw the attack coming he ordered his small force as best he could at the gates, and ran to warn Linwen, wife of his friend Thenamir, and her family. Berganden was too late – the city wall had been breached and another band had reached them before he -- soon he too was slain, but not without taking over a dozen Easterlings with him.

One especially unfortunate invader picked up Berganden’s cloak and helm thinking them much nicer than what he was already wearing. Unfortunately for both Thenamir and himself, Thenamir came racing around the corner at that moment, slaying every moving thing, in a blind rage after finding his wife dead, not expecting to see the silver-and-sable cloak and helm that his sword had now cleaved one from the other. Thenamir stopped, looking at where the helm and cloak had fallen – near to the already fallen body of his comrade Berganden. In the confusion and heat of the moment, it appeared to Thenamir that he had slain not only a fellow soldier, but one of his best friends. Shamed! Disgraced by the indiscretion of a blind rage!

Heart pounding a grim tempo, Thenamir began to race back to where his men were driving out the last of the fleeing enemies. But there was almost nothing left. Thenamir slumped to his knees and now gave full vent to the sobbing which had been shoved aside in the fighting. His wife was gone, his friend slain by his own hand, as it seemed. For him, there was nothing left. To admit his crime would have meant death – to hide it would mean shame eating away at him for the rest of his life. But there must be a reckoning. He would repay this foul breed, and whoever their master was. And to do that, he must live.

Thenamir picked himself up off the ground and ran, ran for his mount. Sharply seizing the reins he wheeled the horse around, and to the astonishment of his men, galloped away, heedless of their cries. Yes, he would pay – he would win back his lost honor. But he would do it in his own time.

He made his way to Rohan, but only after ceremonially burning his signs of rank and office. The helm he kept, after removing the wings, so that it was unadorned and black as the Dark Lord’s fell heart. He dressed himself as a mercenary, approaching the sentries of Rohan at their border and asking to join their ranks. The sentries were suspicious, but allowed him to speak to their captain.

Thenamir’s well-rehearsed story – that of a mercenary tired of fighting alone and looking for a cause and comrades with whom to defend it -- persuaded the eored chief, but being a leader of men he could in Thenamir’s eyes that there was something left unsaid, something both sad and angry. Still, his instincts told him Thenamir was trustworthy, and he proved himself well in both archery and swordsmanship against some of his men in a mock battle. He allowed Thenamir to join their troop on a temporary basis until Theodred or Erkenbrand could judge him more thoroughly, and determine a more permament placement.

Thus it was that Thenamir came into the ranks of the Rohirrim, and came to be in this place, shadowing these followers of Grima Wormtongue, these dark strange-looking men…


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You may want to edit your backstory so that other players are unaware of it. This is some years before Eomer is old enought to be in charge of anything. Erkenbrand is old enough to be a leader of men in these days.

Because Taradan is a dark haired fellow, of like descent, there must be a bit of a rewrite to my last post to accomodate you.
~Gilthalion

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Done -- Thenamir is now brown-haired, enough to be different from the Riders, but not to be confused with 'Blackie'.

</p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile&u=00000209>Thenamir </A> at: 8/7/01 10:54:24 am

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Sorry everyone

I'm sorry I got so upset about this, everyone. It just really bothered me that my post was deleted. Maybe in the future, Gith, you could send it back with the suggestions about changing it. I hope I didn't dampen the experience for anyone else. And Gith, I'm sorry for being so touchy about it. I'm a very sensitive person, and tend to take everything to heart. I will try not to irritate you anymore.

Samwise Brandybuck (who is not part of this RPG and is not mentioned in the LOTR)
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Brandy Hall, Buckland

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Re: Sorry everyone

Not a problem. I've deleted the pertaining posts. Forgiven, forgotten.

I've thought about your suggestion to send back posts with an editorial critique. Unfortunately, when a game like this picks up steam, there's no time for that, since several folk may post in a single day.

If I can, I will simply edit the post and release it. If you want to save your writing, please make and save a copy before you post it. Then, if there are changes, you can consult your draft and see what was done.

Sometimes it's very little. Sometimes it's a lot. Sometimes it's unusable. I've taken the time to completely rewrite such posts and have then had to take still more time to deal with the individual. Our system works well, edit/delete &amp; release.

I make changes for grammar mistakes that mar the reader's understanding. I don't pick up on all of them, sometimes I'm editing very swiftly.

I make changes if a player abuses or misuses another player's character.

I make changes for the sake of continuity, both within the story and with the greater Tolkein Legendarium.

If there is a good cause, I can revisit a decision, in which case, you'll want to have your saved draft ready.



</p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile&u=00000006>Gilthali on</A> at: 8/2/01 7:52:17 pm

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Re: Sorry everyone

Gil, am I up now, or are you going to provide the scenario?
The guys by the fire could be allies or enemies, and I'm not sure what they should be!

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The Game in Progress

I'm afraid you have to make your own decisions!

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Re: The Game in Progress

Iulbahar, I want you to post here with your idea of how your first post ties into the story. Particularly the ending. I want to work with it, but I need to see where you're going.

No one sees a post until I release it, even in the discussion thread, so don't be afraid of giving something away.

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Re: The Game in Progress; (storyline)

KALOHERN is obviously destined to become a hero at some point but not yet. (He needs to train his horse and he is hoping to be admitted to the ranks of the Riders) He is partly based on Beaumains from the Arthurian legend, except that he works in the stable, not the kitchen. Like his horse, his parentage may turn out to be more exalted than he believes. (more shades of Arthur) When Rohan is very hard pressed they may have need of a good rider so he can bide his time until a good opportunity presents itself.
TELEFAX (inspired by Alexander's Bucephalos, hence his derisory nickname) will improve with training until he realises his true potential; again he is being kept in readiness until Rohan's need is great. He can be identified by any knowledgeable horseman as being of the noble line of Meordas because he bears the Ermine mark; a small white spot on his right fetlock. (This is a real phenomenum in some modern thoroughbreds)
My idea for these two is for them to develop in the background, at the same time witnessing the main events of the story until the time comes for them to be &quot;revealed&quot;.
GUTHRIN: I introduced him as a kind of &quot;dastardly rotter&quot; to cause problems for Kalohern and others due to his arrogance and snobbishness. He has no scruples and is secretly a coward and a cheat. He is obviously destined to meet a particularly nasty end after he has wreaked enough havoc. I have no objection to another player &quot;adopting&quot; him if anyone wants to. (Gee, thanks!)
DERNWINE has arrived at the camp bearing fell tidings; he is not my character so I don't know exactly what this is. (I only know that he left the others to return to the camp.) Maybe it's just the news of the &quot;aliens&quot;, maybe he has learned something else in the meantime. (to be decided in accordance with other players' wishes)
The next move my characters make will depend on what the news is and how Theoden and Co. react to it!

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Re: The Game in Progress; (storyline)

OK. That's about what I thought! I didn't see anything there that needed to be kept secret, so I've released it.

I may, however, make some minor changes, since at this point, there is NOT major news to report to Theoden, who is away from the camp near the Isen at this time. Dernwine will report to Erkenbrand instead.

Save the imagery of the played out steed for another more perilous moment!

Also, I have trimmed the ages of your young rider and horse back a year. It's time for both of them to have a good growth spurt! Neither will come into their full growth before the end of this adventure.

I propose that they secretly follow the next day to the concealment at the Fords. I'll take care that Dernwine have a reason not to send them away...

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I don't want the story to go into too many directions at once. Right now, we have a team that is off to spy upon the strange men. We also have a storyline that is centered around the camp. That's enough for now.

Try to stick together, with one story or the other. I'll try to merge them at some point.

</p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile&u=00000006>Gilthali on</A> at: 8/5/01 9:14:40 am

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Re: The Game in Progress; (storyline)

I notice you keep referring to young Theoden, does the story take place when Theoden is young, or do you mean Theodred?

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Re: The Game in Progress; (storyline)

I do mean THEODRED! A very young man, and unproven in battle (as are many in these last days before the storms).

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Re: The Game in Progress; (storyline)

Oh, sorry, I just got confused, because in the beginning, it was Theodred, but then later on it became Theoden, so I was just wondering!

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Re: The Game in Progress; (storyline)

Theodred21, I've released and trimmed your latest post. I tried to keep the flavor and the intent of it, but just wanted to tidy it up a little. Try to keep the NPC's in character (let's not let the Riders look too ridiculous after falling for a practical joke) and try not to do too much with an actual Player Character (other than your own). Otherwise, a fine post and I can't wait to see your plan.

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[Gilthalion]

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Re: The Game in Progress; (storyline)

I deleted the last post, Theodred21, so that you can repost if you like. Our Riders, even the NPCs, are no cowards! There's no reason for you to hate Thenamir, unless that's the kind of guy Taradan is! (If so, go ahead...)

Good point about what the rest may do when they discover someone missing. Who knows what they'd do? Y'all talk it out and think it through!

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[Thenamir]

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The Plan

Theodred21, I hope I did not steal your thunder for the plan you were going to propose. I wrote the post before I saw your intimation of a plan and modified it slightly when I saw it, leaving it to Gil to determine whether to toss it or not.

Looking forward to hearing your plan as well!

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[Theodred21]

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Re: The Plan

I don't hate him, I think he is a bvery good writer, that's just the way Taradan is, very hard to befriend and suspicious.
My last post wasn't so great, probably because I had to write it in 5 minutes, because I have to go to bed!

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[Gilthalion]

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Re: The Plan

Give it another try!

Basically, if you have anything to add too, or something better than Thenamir's plan, or if you can find a problem in the Riders idea, then those would be good to address right now.

I'll pull it back and rein it in if your rhetoric goes over the top! While you might look with suspicion upon Thenamir, or even give him a dirty look, hastily written posts before bedtime can come out a lot stronger!

But your instincts are good! Keep playing with the idea you have about your ongoing relationship with the other outlander.

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[Theodred21]

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The Two Riders?

Hey Gilthalion, I have a suggestion!
I don't think the two other riders with Taradan and Thenamir are going to be personified by anyone. Why don't you give them names and make them secondary characters. It would be better to say a name than &quot;the taller rider&quot; or &quot;the shorter rider&quot; all the time. If anyone later on wants to personify them they can, it's just that they will already have a name. Maybe some people haven't created a character yet, because they can't think of a good Rohirric name. That is why you should name the two blond riders! This is just a suggestion, so you don't have to listen to this, but I just want to bring it up so I don't have to say shorter rider all the time!

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[Gilthalion]

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Re: The Two Riders?

Good ideer. I've held off long enough.

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[Sharkû]

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Re: The Two Riders?

OK, I'd take Storwolos (from stór, probably Swedish or Lappian, meaning 'great' and wolos, the Slavonic Russian god of harvest), the Dúnlending captured by the riders. Any other information I'd work into the first posts, or along the way. Just give me a chance to response before you drag me away


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[Iulbahar]

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Re: Last post

I hope you received the post I just sent.

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[Gilthalion]

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Re: Last post

Sam, check your mail! You may post as the captured Dunlender, when you are roughly awakened!

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[Thenamir]

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Our captured Dunlander

Uh, I hate to be a party crasher, but, a blindfolded Dunlending can't look around at us...the reason we blindfolded him was so that he would not recognize us as being from Rohan...but interesting plot twist, nonetheless...

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[Gilthalion]

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Re: Our captured Dunlander

I see it's fixed already!

Don't be hesitant! We can catch anything that doesn't work!

</p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile&u=00000006>Gilthali on</A> at: 8/17/01 12:33:49 pm

[Gilthalion]

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Re: Our captured Dunlander

Sam, once you come up with a good answer to Thenamir, how about setting up that you will tell them what Grima said to your chief.

Then I'll write a post that will send this thing off....

READERS, I KNOW THIS HAS GOTTEN A SLOW START, BUT WE'VE MADE STEADY PROGRESS AND NOW WE HAVE REACHED THE END OF THE BEGINNING! WE HAVE MORE PLAYERS SLATED TO APPEAR SHORTLY! (In probable order: Sharku, Iulbahar, Kate, &amp; X-Phial)

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