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10-11-2003, 11:16 PM | #1 | |
Haunting Spirit
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separation of Shadowfax and Gandalf
Just a little thought... not a very hot topic for debate, but I was pondering the parting of the fellowship. In the "white rider" gandalf states
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10-12-2003, 12:46 AM | #2 | ||
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I believe I can address each of those questions for you. Starting from the last.
- The life of a mearas was in fact as long as that of a human. Each horse tended to accompany its King until its death. Quote:
Did Shadowfax go with Gandalf to the West? It is probable, if that line of Gandalf's was true. As I should think it was; Shadowfax was to be the last of the mearas's line, a thing that would be explained by his passing into the West. Perhaps that's where he belonged. Quote:
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10-12-2003, 08:38 AM | #3 | |
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Therefore, Shadowfax wouldn't have immediately become "immortal" just by living in the Undying Lands.
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10-12-2003, 07:27 PM | #4 | |
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I agree Gwaihir. Although Finwe points out that the undying lands are named for the ones who live there, I believe that it is open for debate since it is not really set in stone. I believe that it was possible for the mearas to remain immortal in Valinor.
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10-12-2003, 08:32 PM | #5 |
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Ah, I see.
So perhaps the Mearas had "cousins" or "kin" living in Aman, who were immortal. But then again, even if they weren't immortal, they still wouldn't die out completely. A species dies out completely if no more births occur, and the Mearas probably breed like regular horses (don't make me get into the graphic details! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img])
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10-12-2003, 10:14 PM | #6 |
Haunting Spirit
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[img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] yes well, i did consider that aspect. However, if gandalf wishes for them to never part again in this world...(although valinor is not part of the rest of middle earth) then that makes me assume that once shadowfax reaches valinor, he will not die. (hence the never parting concept [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] ) Anyway, I am probably starting to stretch the validity of this subject, so i will graciously step down and save you the agony. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
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10-13-2003, 01:58 AM | #7 |
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Ah well, who knows. Its fiction; I think that's about all we can say. =)
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10-13-2003, 03:25 AM | #8 |
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I believe that by this quote, Gandalf means that until they have left 'Middle-Earth' they should not be parted again. It does not mean that they would never be parted. Gandalf is saying (heroically as he does not really know if it will be true) that they will win through and depart ME victorious.
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10-13-2003, 01:14 PM | #9 | |
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