Jeopardy Question - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Lindolirian · 04-25-2002, 07:02 PM

Okay, i was just watching Jeopardy and one of the Daily Doubles read like this:

"The would be ruler of Middle Earth"

Now for those of you don't know, in Jeopardy, you are given an answer and you must give the question. Immediatly I said, "the Dark Lord" thinking of Morgoth who nearly had all of Beleriand (the most populous part of Middle Earth) in his grasp. Alas, the contestant answered, "Sauron", but got it wrong. Now here's the part that irked me. Alex Trebek said that the answer was The Lord of the Rings. (the category was "O Lord" which meant that the word "lord" had to be in your answer) Now who do you think was the "would be ruler of middle earth"? [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Joy · 04-25-2002, 09:34 PM

Sounds like the Dark Lord Sauron would have worked too.

Vráin Redmallet · 05-18-2002, 07:28 PM

I'm not quite sure who would be the "would be lord". I think the answer should have been Sauron beacause not only is "The Lord of the Rings" the series' title, it also refers to the current holder of the ring. If THIS was the case, then Frodo would have been the character of choice. What do you think? [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

ElanorGamgee · 05-18-2002, 07:43 PM

That's an awfully vague question if you ask me. There are many in the book who wish to rule Middle-earth, if only for a moment.

Vráin Redmallet · 05-18-2002, 07:58 PM

Like I said earlier, the holder of the Ring would be the one. Of course, all who knew of the Ring would want it, but it still remains that only the one who possessed the Ring would have a chance of becoming the ruler. I still hold with Lindolirian though that Sauron orMorgoth would have both been exceptable answers. The title as the answer produces an extremely vague answer to the Jeopardy question because 6 inhabitants of Middle-earth have possessed it:
Sauron
The king who cut it from his hand
Deagol
Smeagol (Gollum)
Bilbo
And finally Frodo

Lindolirian · 05-18-2002, 08:39 PM

hmmm interesting
Alas... Alex Trebec doesn't know enough of ME to do a question. o well just another thing to discuss. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Hírilamara · 05-26-2002, 11:53 PM

Well the stupid writers just don't know their literature, do they? [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Dior · 05-28-2002, 08:47 AM

What was wrong with the answer? It worked under that category. Whenever people talk about the Lord of the Rings they mean Sauron, and he did rule ME all through the S.A.

Kettle of fish · 05-28-2002, 09:43 AM

Frodo was not a Lord of the Ring, he was just the bearer.

Belin · 05-28-2002, 10:51 AM

Indeed.. remember how Pippin greeted Frodo as the Lord of the Ring and Gandalf stopped him, saying there was only one, Sauron? Of course, this would mean that the correct answer would be "Lord of the Ring" not "Lord of the Rings", wouldn't it? I mean, Sauron doesn't control the Three or the Seven (although of course the Nine he does...)

--Belin Ibaimendi

lathspell · 06-01-2002, 03:02 AM

He is 'Lord of the Ring' for he is It's maker. Also he is 'Lord of the Rings' for if he has the One Ring, he controls all other Rings of Power (also the Three, also the Seven) and the people who were them. He could see their minds and all that, and eventually he would become the ruler of all.

So he was both 'Lord of the Ring' and 'Lord of the Rings'.

greetings,
lathspell

Heen-1 · 06-01-2002, 03:57 PM

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I mean, Sauron doesn't control the Three or the Seven (although of course the Nine he does...)

not the three you're correct, but of the seven four are said to be destroyed and the three that werent destroyed he has.

Luthien_ Tinuviel · 06-10-2002, 07:11 PM

Does anyone know what Sauron did with the three of the seven that he had?

Lothiriel Silmarien · 06-10-2002, 07:30 PM

Uh, he probably did what he did to the 9. Which is......um, something??? Well, what could he do with them? My guess is that he put them safely away. Under his bed beside his slippers..

Oh by the way, I see Luthien, that you've been here since May, but I haven't seen you around. So I just wanted to say welcome to the Downs and hey!!! And I love your name by the way! I woulda thought that somebody would have taken that already!! Well, obviously they didn't. That's one of my favorite tales too, how romantic...sweet...*sigh*. I'm going off topic here, but..ok I said all that I needed to!!

Luthien_ Tinuviel · 06-20-2002, 04:10 PM

<font color="gold"> Thanks for the welcome!

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04-25-2002, 07:02 PM	#1
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Jeopardy Question Okay, i was just watching Jeopardy and one of the Daily Doubles read like this: "The would be ruler of Middle Earth" Now for those of you don't know, in Jeopardy, you are given an answer and you must give the question. Immediatly I said, "the Dark Lord" thinking of Morgoth who nearly had all of Beleriand (the most populous part of Middle Earth) in his grasp. Alas, the contestant answered, "Sauron", but got it wrong. Now here's the part that irked me. Alex Trebek said that the answer was The Lord of the Rings. (the category was "O Lord" which meant that the word "lord" had to be in your answer) Now who do you think was the "would be ruler of middle earth"? [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

04-25-2002, 09:34 PM	#2
Joy Spirit of a Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wandering Posts: 1,012	Sounds like the Dark Lord Sauron would have worked too. __________________ God bless, Joy KingdomWarrior@hotmail.com http://kingdomWarrior.jlym.com As the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after thee, O God. My soul thirsteth for God, for the living God: when shall I come and appear before God?

05-18-2002, 07:43 PM	#4
ElanorGamgee Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 314	That's an awfully vague question if you ask me. There are many in the book who wish to rule Middle-earth, if only for a moment. __________________ Soli Deo Gloria

05-18-2002, 08:39 PM	#6
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	hmmm interesting Alas... Alex Trebec doesn't know enough of ME to do a question. o well just another thing to discuss. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

05-26-2002, 11:53 PM	#7
Hírilamara Pile O'Bones Join Date: May 2002 Location: California Posts: 16	Well the stupid writers just don't know their literature, do they? [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] __________________ The probability of someone seeing you is proportional to the stupidity of your action.

05-18-2002, 07:28 PM	#3
Vráin Redmallet Pile O'Bones Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 12	I'm not quite sure who would be the "would be lord". I think the answer should have been Sauron beacause not only is "The Lord of the Rings" the series' title, it also refers to the current holder of the ring. If THIS was the case, then Frodo would have been the character of choice. What do you think? [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

05-18-2002, 07:58 PM	#5
Vráin Redmallet Pile O'Bones Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 12	Like I said earlier, the holder of the Ring would be the one. Of course, all who knew of the Ring would want it, but it still remains that only the one who possessed the Ring would have a chance of becoming the ruler. I still hold with Lindolirian though that Sauron orMorgoth would have both been exceptable answers. The title as the answer produces an extremely vague answer to the Jeopardy question because 6 inhabitants of Middle-earth have possessed it: Sauron The king who cut it from his hand Deagol Smeagol (Gollum) Bilbo And finally Frodo

05-28-2002, 08:47 AM	#8
Dior Wight Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Doriath Posts: 242	What was wrong with the answer? It worked under that category. Whenever people talk about the Lord of the Rings they mean Sauron, and he did rule ME all through the S.A. __________________ Goodbye everybody, I've got to go... Gotta leave you all behind and face the truth....

05-28-2002, 09:43 AM	#9
Kettle of fish Wight Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 114	Frodo was not a Lord of the Ring, he was just the bearer. __________________ The inimical is often more instructive than the benign. Between screams, try to pay attention.

05-28-2002, 10:51 AM	#10
Belin Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: all the wide unfriendly pathways of the world Posts: 330	Indeed.. remember how Pippin greeted Frodo as the Lord of the Ring and Gandalf stopped him, saying there was only one, Sauron? Of course, this would mean that the correct answer would be "Lord of the Ring" not "Lord of the Rings", wouldn't it? I mean, Sauron doesn't control the Three or the Seven (although of course the Nine he does...) --Belin Ibaimendi __________________ "I hate dignity," cried Scraps, kicking a pebble high in the air and then trying to catch it as it fell. "Half the fools and all the wise folks are dignified, and I'm neither the one nor the other." --L. Frank Baum

06-01-2002, 03:02 AM	#11
lathspell Regenerating Ringkeeper Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 757	He is 'Lord of the Ring' for he is It's maker. Also he is 'Lord of the Rings' for if he has the One Ring, he controls all other Rings of Power (also the Three, also the Seven) and the people who were them. He could see their minds and all that, and eventually he would become the ruler of all. So he was both 'Lord of the Ring' and 'Lord of the Rings'. greetings, lathspell __________________ 'You?' cried Frodo. 'Yes, I, Gandalf the Grey,' said the wizard solemnly. 'There are many powers in the world, for good or for evil. Some are greater than I am. Against some I have not yet been measured. But my time is coming.'

06-10-2002, 07:11 PM	#13
Luthien_ Tinuviel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2002 Location: A very lovely tree-hut in the Chunnel. Posts: 804	Does anyone know what Sauron did with the three of the seven that he had? __________________ I am a nineteen-year-old nomad photographer who owns a lemonade stand. You know what? I love Mip.

06-10-2002, 07:30 PM	#14
Lothiriel Silmarien Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New York Posts: 829	Uh, he probably did what he did to the 9. Which is......um, something??? Well, what could he do with them? My guess is that he put them safely away. Under his bed beside his slippers.. Oh by the way, I see Luthien, that you've been here since May, but I haven't seen you around. So I just wanted to say welcome to the Downs and hey!!! And I love your name by the way! I woulda thought that somebody would have taken that already!! Well, obviously they didn't. That's one of my favorite tales too, how romantic...sweet...sigh. I'm going off topic here, but..ok I said all that I needed to!! __________________ Si vanwa na Romello vanwa Valimar!~~ ~~Now lost, lost to those from the East is Valimar! My LotR page

06-20-2002, 04:10 PM	#15
Luthien_ Tinuviel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2002 Location: A very lovely tree-hut in the Chunnel. Posts: 804	<font color="gold"> Thanks for the welcome! [ June 20, 2002: Message edited by: Luthien_ Tinuviel ] [ June 20, 2002: Message edited by: Luthien_ Tinuviel ] __________________ I am a nineteen-year-old nomad photographer who owns a lemonade stand. You know what? I love Mip.