What would have happened..........Moria - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Adamathamariel · 03-11-2003, 08:36 AM

I was reading the book a few days ago, and I came to the conclusion that Gandalf the White was more powerful than Gandalf the Grey, which got me thinking. If the Fellowship didn't go through Moria, and took the Gap of Rohan instead or so, what would the rest of the story be like?

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Inderjit Sanghera · 03-11-2003, 08:47 AM

It would've been a very different book, that's for sure. I doubt whether they would've succeded. Shouldn't 'What if' questions be in Novices and Newcomers?

[ March 11, 2003: Message edited by: Inderjit Sanghera ]

Estelyn Telcontar · 03-11-2003, 09:26 AM

Yes, as a rule, opinion topics are placed on the Novices and Newcomers forum. Please continue this discussion there.

hobbit punk · 03-11-2003, 09:45 AM

One of the most interesting aspects of LOTR is Gandalf's intuition. I don't know if you have finished reading the books yet but if you have then you know what I am talking about. This then makes you wonder if Gandalf knew in some sense that he would fall in Moria and then be reborn more powerful then before. This power of course giving him the edge over Sauruman. It is a very interesting thing to ponder.

**The Saucepan Man** · 03-11-2003, 12:46 PM

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This then makes you wonder if Gandalf knew in some sense that he would fall in Moria and then be reborn more powerful then before. This power of course giving him the edge over Sauruman.

Well, he was pretty determined not to go through Moria if he could possibly avoid it. And there is a suggestion that he had some sense that he would meet a great challenge there. But I'm not sure that he had any idea that, if he did fall, he might be allowed to come back, let alone come back with increased power. No, I'm pretty sure that, had there been any option to by-pass Moria, Gandalf would have taken it. But then, the outcome might have been very different indeed ... [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]

Sleeping Beauty · 03-11-2003, 01:43 PM

Could you imagine either way? If they had not taken the way through Moria, and had made for the Gap of Rohan, Frodo would have ended up around more and more men, so either by Boromir's hand or someone else's the ring would have been tried to been taken. And the consequences of that would be devastating.
If Gandalf had already been Gandalf the white, *shudder* then there would have been hardly an adventure at all. Gandalf would have simply led Frodo to Mount Doom, and that would have been the end of it. No Gollum really, because Gollum didn't really begin to appear till it was close to Gandalf's fall. But it all would be a new interesting story indeed. [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]

Lathriel · 03-11-2003, 10:10 PM

What if the fellowship was caught by a company of Saruman's orks. They could easily be caught in the gap of Rohan because the land is very flat.

03-11-2003, 08:36 AM	#1
Adamathamariel Pile O'Bones Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 11	What would have happened..........Moria I was reading the book a few days ago, and I came to the conclusion that Gandalf the White was more powerful than Gandalf the Grey, which got me thinking. If the Fellowship didn't go through Moria, and took the Gap of Rohan instead or so, what would the rest of the story be like? -------------------------------------------- "Help me Master, I'm drownded," ~ Samwise

03-11-2003, 08:47 AM	#2
Inderjit Sanghera Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Wolverhampton, England Posts: 716	It would've been a very different book, that's for sure. I doubt whether they would've succeded. Shouldn't 'What if' questions be in Novices and Newcomers? [ March 11, 2003: Message edited by: Inderjit Sanghera ] __________________ “If I’m more of an influence on your son as a rapper then you are as a father then you've got to look at yourself as a parent” ~>Ice Cube. "Life is so beautiful"->Don Vito Corleone

03-11-2003, 09:26 AM	#3
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Yes, as a rule, opinion topics are placed on the Novices and Newcomers forum. Please continue this discussion there. __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

03-11-2003, 09:45 AM	#4
hobbit punk Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 86	One of the most interesting aspects of LOTR is Gandalf's intuition. I don't know if you have finished reading the books yet but if you have then you know what I am talking about. This then makes you wonder if Gandalf knew in some sense that he would fall in Moria and then be reborn more powerful then before. This power of course giving him the edge over Sauruman. It is a very interesting thing to ponder. __________________ "The alphabet does not go "A B C D What? When? How? but it does go "V W X Why? Z." -Douglas Adams

03-11-2003, 01:43 PM	#6
Sleeping Beauty Wight Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Somewhere between the back of the chair and the monitor Posts: 115	Could you imagine either way? If they had not taken the way through Moria, and had made for the Gap of Rohan, Frodo would have ended up around more and more men, so either by Boromir's hand or someone else's the ring would have been tried to been taken. And the consequences of that would be devastating. If Gandalf had already been Gandalf the white, shudder then there would have been hardly an adventure at all. Gandalf would have simply led Frodo to Mount Doom, and that would have been the end of it. No Gollum really, because Gollum didn't really begin to appear till it was close to Gandalf's fall. But it all would be a new interesting story indeed. [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] __________________ "If I knew all of the answers, I'd run for God." ~ Klinger: MAS*H

03-11-2003, 10:10 PM	#7
Lathriel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wandering through Middle-Earth (Sadly in Alberta and not ME) Posts: 612	What if the fellowship was caught by a company of Saruman's orks. They could easily be caught in the gap of Rohan because the land is very flat. __________________ Back again