Why didn't Bilbo see everything bluury-like? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Arwen Imladris · 09-05-2002, 02:58 PM

Whenever Frodo put on the ring, everything was blurry, why didn't it have the same effect on Bilbo? Is Bilbo stronger? Does it have something to do with the fact that Sauron was looking for it?

Alaggaeriel · 09-05-2002, 04:40 PM

I was wondering that too. If I put the ring on and it was blurry like that, I would be too scared to put it back on. Of course, they probably chose to portray it like that for dramatic results, otherwise it would be no big deal. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Beren87 · 09-05-2002, 06:06 PM

From reading the books, I had always imagined that those things connected with the Dark Lorn were shown funkily. Such as the riders or the lidless eye. I beleive it was just some hollywood need for special effects that made the "ring vision" that way.

Manwe Sulimo · 09-05-2002, 06:23 PM

Remember, when The Hobbit was written, the Ring was just a "plain old ordinary magic ring", not the One Ruling Ring of Sauron.

If you want to look at it from a plot standpoint, Sauron wasn't at full power, and had not yet been lusting after the Ring in all his spare time. Also, the movie (in that sense) is innacurate: it didn't become "blurry", except near Mordor:

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At once [Sam] was aware that hearing was sharpened while sight was dimmed, but otherwise than in Shelob's lair. All things about him now were not dark but vague; while he himself was there in a grey hazy world, alone, like a small black solid rock, and the Ring, weighing down his hand, was like an orb of hot gold. He did not feel invisible at all, but horribly and uniquely visible; and he knew that somewhere an Eye was searching for him.

In the Prancing Pony, Frodo suffered none of these side effects.

Donisile Of Mirkwood · 09-07-2002, 08:22 AM

I was about to mention this quote aswell.....its does mention about him taking off the ring to see better as well...

Gayametwen · 10-18-2002, 07:41 PM

I belive it was becuase Sauron who made it didn't rely on his vision, but anyway, in the books and the movie and the unknown cartoon, when one wears the ring they see the ringwraiths and other evil things cleqarer...I believe that was all that Sauron needed to see so he did not need the other things so it would be blurry...and when Frodo saw light through it it was a good person ...anyway..yeah *sigh*

mollecon · 10-19-2002, 07:42 AM

As I recall it, in the books it does say that Frodo's vision of the world pales when he puts on the ring - also before he gets to Mordor.

It's true that Bilbo doesn't experience this effect of the ring - we must ascribe it to the growing power of Sauron (as another poster says) between Bilbo's last use of it (at the end of his speech at the birthday party) & the first time Frodo uses it, after he leaves Bagend. Remember, in the books thats some 16 years or so...

avarrogion · 10-19-2002, 07:59 AM

It could be because it simbolize the Darkness of the Ruling Ruling. Maybe ..just maybe that Bilbo did feel the same thing cause what we are viewing is from Frodo`s perspective...someone correct me if i am wrong.
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09-05-2002, 02:58 PM	#1
Arwen Imladris Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a box with a fox Posts: 1,347	Why didn't Bilbo see everything bluury-like? Whenever Frodo put on the ring, everything was blurry, why didn't it have the same effect on Bilbo? Is Bilbo stronger? Does it have something to do with the fact that Sauron was looking for it? __________________ "Wake up! Wake up! Wake up, sleepies, we must go, yes, we must go at once."

09-05-2002, 04:40 PM	#2
Alaggaeriel Animated Skeleton Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Texas, USA Posts: 35	I was wondering that too. If I put the ring on and it was blurry like that, I would be too scared to put it back on. Of course, they probably chose to portray it like that for dramatic results, otherwise it would be no big deal. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] __________________ Speak, Friend, and Enter.

09-07-2002, 08:22 AM	#5
Donisile Of Mirkwood Animated Skeleton Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: UK Posts: 36	I was about to mention this quote aswell.....its does mention about him taking off the ring to see better as well... __________________ Let it not be said and said unto your shame that there was beauty here before you came.

10-18-2002, 07:41 PM	#6
Gayametwen Pile O'Bones Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rivendell sigh or Mirkwood..or..... Posts: 16	I belive it was becuase Sauron who made it didn't rely on his vision, but anyway, in the books and the movie and the unknown cartoon, when one wears the ring they see the ringwraiths and other evil things cleqarer...I believe that was all that Sauron needed to see so he did not need the other things so it would be blurry...and when Frodo saw light through it it was a good person ...anyway..yeah sigh __________________ http://imagemagician.com/images/pbnai/ash.jpg ^^ Muahaha! shudders I'm supposed to be Gandalf living in Rivendell! MSN: cheeziestcheezer@hotmail.com

10-19-2002, 07:59 AM	#8
avarrogion Wight Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Malaysia Posts: 120	It could be because it simbolize the Darkness of the Ruling Ruling. Maybe ..just maybe that Bilbo did feel the same thing cause what we are viewing is from Frodo`s perspective...someone correct me if i am wrong. [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] __________________ I might have been a slasher but I never killed children, only real men!...A mistake cannot make right by another mistake... ~Kenshin Himura~

09-05-2002, 06:06 PM	#3
Beren87 Master of the Secret Fire Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Between fire and ice, death and life Posts: 2,241	From reading the books, I had always imagined that those things connected with the Dark Lorn were shown funkily. Such as the riders or the lidless eye. I beleive it was just some hollywood need for special effects that made the "ring vision" that way.

10-19-2002, 07:42 AM	#7
mollecon Wight Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 188	As I recall it, in the books it does say that Frodo's vision of the world pales when he puts on the ring - also before he gets to Mordor. It's true that Bilbo doesn't experience this effect of the ring - we must ascribe it to the growing power of Sauron (as another poster says) between Bilbo's last use of it (at the end of his speech at the birthday party) & the first time Frodo uses it, after he leaves Bagend. Remember, in the books thats some 16 years or so...