Someone help me get un-confused.... - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Lily Tussle · 02-19-2002, 06:16 PM

Ok, I am confused about the Maia.
Who are they? What do they do? What's the point of them being in Middle-Earth?
I just hope some of you can clear up my confusion....

Elven-Maiden · 02-19-2002, 07:53 PM

I'm not exactly sure.... I saw the Maiar as the handmaids and manservants, basically of the Valar. They came into being after the Valar, but I'm not sure why. Maybe just to keep them company. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

I'm sorry I couldn't help more.

Kuruharan · 02-19-2002, 08:26 PM

The Valar and Maiar are both Ainur (angels more or less). They both sprung from the thought of Iluvatar at the beginning.
Basically as Elven-Maiden said, the Maiar are lesser Ainur and they are the servants of the Valar.
Melian (wife of Thingol) and Olorin (Gandalf) were both Maia.
Saruman and Radagast were also Maia, but I can't remember what their real names were off the top of my head.
Those are the only ones I can remember right at the moment.
Hope this helps. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Bruce MacCulloch · 02-19-2002, 10:34 PM

Saruman's and Radagast's names were Curumo and Aiwendil, respectively.

Niphredil Baggins · 02-20-2002, 07:45 AM

Actually, Saruman was Curunir.

Bruce MacCulloch · 02-20-2002, 10:49 AM

Curunír is the Sindarin form of the Quenya name Curumo. Curumo is given as being Saruman's name in Valinor, as Aiwendil was Radagast's there.

Kuruharan · 02-20-2002, 12:05 PM

...oh, and I was forgetting Sauron.

02-19-2002, 06:16 PM	#1
Lily Tussle Pile O'Bones Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Pincup, The Shire, Eriador, Middle Earth Posts: 14	Someone help me get un-confused.... Ok, I am confused about the Maia. Who are they? What do they do? What's the point of them being in Middle-Earth? I just hope some of you can clear up my confusion.... __________________ "Reading? I didn't know you could read."

02-19-2002, 07:53 PM	#2
Elven-Maiden Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 297	I'm not exactly sure.... I saw the Maiar as the handmaids and manservants, basically of the Valar. They came into being after the Valar, but I'm not sure why. Maybe just to keep them company. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] I'm sorry I couldn't help more. __________________ Tout ce qui est or ne brille pas, Tous ceux qui errent ne sont pas perdus. Mobilis in Mobile

02-19-2002, 08:26 PM	#3
Kuruharan Regal Dwarven Shade Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: A Remote Dwarven Hold Posts: 3,593	The Valar and Maiar are both Ainur (angels more or less). They both sprung from the thought of Iluvatar at the beginning. Basically as Elven-Maiden said, the Maiar are lesser Ainur and they are the servants of the Valar. Melian (wife of Thingol) and Olorin (Gandalf) were both Maia. Saruman and Radagast were also Maia, but I can't remember what their real names were off the top of my head. Those are the only ones I can remember right at the moment. Hope this helps. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ ...finding a path that cannot be found, walking a road that cannot be seen, climbing a ladder that was never placed, or reading a paragraph that has no...

02-19-2002, 10:34 PM	#4
Bruce MacCulloch Dead Man of Dunharrow Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 651	Saruman's and Radagast's names were Curumo and Aiwendil, respectively. __________________ `A blunderbuss, was it?' said he, scratching his head. `I thought it was horseflies!'

02-20-2002, 07:45 AM	#5
Niphredil Baggins Wight Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 118	Actually, Saruman was Curunir. __________________ Wistful, willful, wingless, fly!

02-20-2002, 10:49 AM	#6
Bruce MacCulloch Dead Man of Dunharrow Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 651	Curunír is the Sindarin form of the Quenya name Curumo. Curumo is given as being Saruman's name in Valinor, as Aiwendil was Radagast's there. __________________ `A blunderbuss, was it?' said he, scratching his head. `I thought it was horseflies!'

02-20-2002, 12:05 PM	#7
Kuruharan Regal Dwarven Shade Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: A Remote Dwarven Hold Posts: 3,593	...oh, and I was forgetting Sauron. __________________ ...finding a path that cannot be found, walking a road that cannot be seen, climbing a ladder that was never placed, or reading a paragraph that has no...