Oh Goody...and a question!!! - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Lush · 12-25-2001, 08:07 PM

Wow, I have achieved the status of Pile O'Bones. Lovely. I dare not look at the mirror.
And while we're on the subject of bones, since I am very new to Tolkien:
I have been told that elves can be slain or die of grief. This is an interesting concept. Does anyone actually die of grief in the course of the books? And what kind of a degree of grief are we talking about here?
-The ever-curious Lush

Fenrir · 12-26-2001, 08:19 AM

Luthien and Arwen both die of grief or, to put it more cleary, they die to follow their true loves Beren and Aragorn.

Orald · 12-26-2001, 12:04 PM

But they were both mortal at that point, unless you refer to the first time Lùthien went to Mandos to retrieve Beren. Miriel, Finwë's first wife died of grief though. She was 100% elf and was the first to die in the immortal lands of the West.

Lush · 12-26-2001, 05:42 PM

Oh, I see. So the elves' sensitivity is not physical, it is emotional. Very interesting.

12-25-2001, 08:07 PM	#1
Lush Fair and Cold Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the big onion Posts: 1,770	Oh Goody...and a question!!! Wow, I have achieved the status of Pile O'Bones. Lovely. I dare not look at the mirror. And while we're on the subject of bones, since I am very new to Tolkien: I have been told that elves can be slain or die of grief. This is an interesting concept. Does anyone actually die of grief in the course of the books? And what kind of a degree of grief are we talking about here? -The ever-curious Lush __________________ ~The beginning is the word and the end is silence. And in between are all the stories. This is one of mine~

12-26-2001, 08:19 AM	#2
Fenrir Wight Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nevrast Posts: 103	Luthien and Arwen both die of grief or, to put it more cleary, they die to follow their true loves Beren and Aragorn. __________________ Fearlessness is better than a faint-heart for any man who puts his nose out of doors. The length of my life and the day of my death were fated long ago.

12-26-2001, 05:42 PM	#4
Lush Fair and Cold Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the big onion Posts: 1,770	Oh, I see. So the elves' sensitivity is not physical, it is emotional. Very interesting. __________________ ~The beginning is the word and the end is silence. And in between are all the stories. This is one of mine~

12-26-2001, 12:04 PM	#3
Orald Shadow of Malice Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: right behind you Posts: 843	But they were both mortal at that point, unless you refer to the first time Lùthien went to Mandos to retrieve Beren. Miriel, Finwë's first wife died of grief though. She was 100% elf and was the first to die in the immortal lands of the West.