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11-27-2003, 10:52 AM | #1 |
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Characters that are often overlooked.
What characters do you think are often overlooked? I think that Cirdan is one of those characters. He is one the wisest elves in Middle-earth. Also he did some important thing in the Third age that are barely even mentioned.
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11-27-2003, 11:52 AM | #2 |
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I think Luthien Tinuviel is overlooked far, far too much. She is a beautiful and dramatic figure (as well as my namesake)and I think it is just not right that no one has ever heard of her.
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11-27-2003, 12:18 PM | #3 |
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I'd have to say that all of the Valar(with the exception of Mandos, Varda and Ulmo) are pretty overlooked in my opinion. They've done such great things and practically noboby gives the recongnition they diserve. As for Mandos...he made a name for himself with that scary "The doom of Mandos" speech. Varda(aka Elbereth) is mentioned so often the the trilogy, but only as one would say praises or thanks. She's become a byword. Ulmo is a little less recongnised but more so than any other Valar. I think he was mentioned at least once in the Trilogy, and is he wasn't...people still tend to know who he is.
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11-27-2003, 03:17 PM | #4 |
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Mandos and Nienna. they are such wonderful characters. also, Fionwe.
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11-27-2003, 03:50 PM | #5 |
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It appears to me that many people often disregard Celeborn as an average elf among the great, since he appeared to be overshadowed in importance and lineage by his wife. This does not do justice IMO to the great leader and general he must have been.
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11-27-2003, 03:59 PM | #6 |
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I remember discussing Celeborn once. I have always admired him, and I can see why he is overlooked, but he should be given a little more notice.
I agree that most of the Valar are often overlooked as well. I'm also quite disappointed that it is only once in a while that I remember Thranduil. I found him quite interesting, although he is rarely mentioned. Finduilas is one of the characters I most want to know more about, and I wish the information about her was a little more in-depth.
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11-27-2003, 08:28 PM | #7 |
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Sharku beat me to it.
For further (perhaps respect-building) information, see Unfinished Tales, 'The History of Galadriel and Celeborn.'
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11-27-2003, 08:55 PM | #8 |
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Melkor because had he not fallen from grace there would have been no rings or anything.
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11-28-2003, 04:06 PM | #9 |
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And no story line either.
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11-29-2003, 09:51 AM | #10 |
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I don't know...Celeborn perhaps, yes. And Thranduil...the only thing I know about him is he had a love of gold and jewellery. There might be more, I don't know. Aina, I like your siggy! It took a while to sink in though...I'm not good at jokes, unlike my dad who got it straight away. Oh well...
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11-29-2003, 03:17 PM | #11 |
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oh Elentari, you know that Thranduil is Legolas' father, surely?! [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]
i also think Thranduil.
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12-01-2003, 02:35 PM | #12 |
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I would say the other 28 un-named Rangers that rode south with Halbarad and the Sons of Elrond. Halbarad and the Sons of Elrond for that matter are quite overlooked.
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12-01-2003, 05:09 PM | #13 |
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You're right Snowdog...who are these people, what are their stories, their families, pasts, futures. The Dunedain in general have a somewhat clouded existance in the third age. A mystery to everyone, even themselves.
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12-01-2003, 08:20 PM | #14 |
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Gothmog (from LotR, not the Silm). He was second-in-command to the Witch King (in military terms at least), yet we don't even know whether he was a Man, an Orc or a Nazgul.
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12-01-2003, 11:06 PM | #15 |
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I always wanted to know more about Celebrimbor. He forged the rings of power, he was in love with Galadriel, and (I think) he founded the elven realm of Hollin during the second age. But I only seem to find a few paragraphs about him, a dozen or so.
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Of course, Celebrimbor has the distinction of having one of the most colorful after death scenes, as his body was carried by the forces of Sauron as a standard. (BTW, has any artist done a depiction of THIS?) I'd say that is right up there with poor old stomped Fingon! And of course, we have the horror-movie worthy disintegration of Saruman at Bag End... [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] Cheers, Lyta
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11-28-2004, 08:28 AM | #17 |
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Yes,definetly Celebrimor,who is descendant of the great Feanor and one of the mightiest elves in ME,and still there is almost nothing about him.
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11-28-2004, 09:33 AM | #18 |
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I'd have to say Prince Imrahil and his knights of Dol Amroth. Not so much Imrahil, because he gets a lot of acknowledgement in ROTK. But his knights (beside Gandalf) were the only Gondorian soldiers able to withstand the nazgul shriek. Imrahil I also love about him that he doesn't impede Aragorn from claiming the throne, he actually urges Aragorn to do it .
Ghan-Buri-Ghan, need I say more, I just love the way he talks, "gorgun." Some other characters that I think are overlooked are (that aren't already mentioned): Butterbur Farmer Maggot Beregond Radagast Hama Erkenbrand Ohtar I can go on for a while, but anyway... I can see that we have a Celeborn fan wagon gathering up, I might as well hop on, GO Celeborn. Snowdog, wonderful answer .
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11-28-2004, 09:58 AM | #19 |
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I've always thought Goldberry and Glorfindel were very overlooked characters. They were both very well written characters. Goldberry was mysterious and charming. She probably had a very good story behind her. And Glorfindel, he was extremely overlooked. Just his part was in the movie but he apparently wasn't important enough to be put in. Glorfindel was strong, courageous, and intellegent. He would have had a very good story as well. I feel bad for both of those characters.
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Celebrimbror: *snarls* Well, close enough... Anyway, buck to overlooked characters. Celeborn, who has already been mentioned. Thranduil, c'mon, the guy held off sauron for close to 3000 years without the aid of a Ring like Elrond and Galadriel. He deserves some applause there...and I still don't get why the Fanbrats think he's evil. *shakes head* Celebrimbor, even though he was decieved by Sauron he did what he could to fight him as well. He managed to hide the Rings and hold Eregion against Sauron until the last moment and then was tortured to death, poor guy. Denethor, lost his father, lost his wife, had to look after two toddlers on his own while trying to keep Gondor safe and fighting Sauron while slowly being driven mad by the Palantir and still managing to hold onto the defenses for 40 years. Tinfang Gelion, 3rd greatest minstrel of the elves, is only mentioned in The Lays of Beleriand in one sentance. *eyebrows her list* Yep, I fangirl each and every one of them...
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