The Body Vanishes? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Kalimac · 10-06-2002, 01:00 AM

Just a random thought - what would happen if someone died while wearing the One Ring? Bilbo could have been accidentally killed with a sword or a rock in the Battle of the Five Armies, after all, and even if the Ring had stayed on Isildur's hand while he was fleeing, the Orcs might have seen the shape of his body disturbing the water. So would the body stay invisible, and the Ring invisible along with? Or did the effect disappear when life did?

Anunia · 10-06-2002, 04:03 AM

Well, Kalimac, i assume that when someone died while wearing the ring, his body remained invisible... until it desintegrated... I don't know...

About Isildur, I guess the ring swept of his finger and orcs could see him, and kill him. Again, all I can say about this is pure assumption.

Anunia

lathspell · 10-06-2002, 12:51 PM

I don't think that the Ring would remain on a dead body. It would slip of, I guess.

greetings,
lathspell

Reyna Evergreen · 10-06-2002, 12:57 PM

Because we know that the Ring had somekind of way of getting around, I guess that the wearer would stay invisible until the Ring found some way of rubbing againts someting, or slipping off (ect...) and then the corpse would be revealed, much to the dismay of the finder.

This is all just an assumption, though. Maybe, in retrospect, the Ring just stayed, invisible, with the Bearer until he or she was reduced to nothing...

But because Tolkien never intended a Bearer to die, all we can do is guess...

Bombadilo · 10-06-2002, 02:53 PM

Since the Ring had a mind of its own, i am pretty sure that it would have fallen off or something like that. The Ring would not have stayed on a dead body, because there was not any hope of being retrieved by Sauron.

Susan Delgado · 10-06-2002, 06:01 PM

Exactly, Bombidillo. It is intelligent in its way and all it would have to do is change its size so it's bigger than the finger it's on.

arelendil · 10-08-2002, 12:51 PM

i always thought that the ring only made a life force invisible otherwises the chain its on would be invisible!
therefore the moment the life leaves a body the corpse is again visible!
But that's just me

Legolas · 10-08-2002, 01:05 PM

I imagine the body and ring would become visible, and the ring would fall from the bearer's hand.

10-06-2002, 01:00 AM	#1
Kalimac Candle of the Marshes Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Flyover Country Posts: 780	The Body Vanishes? Just a random thought - what would happen if someone died while wearing the One Ring? Bilbo could have been accidentally killed with a sword or a rock in the Battle of the Five Armies, after all, and even if the Ring had stayed on Isildur's hand while he was fleeing, the Orcs might have seen the shape of his body disturbing the water. So would the body stay invisible, and the Ring invisible along with? Or did the effect disappear when life did? __________________ Father, dear Father, if you see fit, We'll send my love to college for one year yet Tie blue ribbons all about his head, To let the ladies know that he's married.

10-06-2002, 04:03 AM	#2
Anunia Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rivendell Posts: 60	Well, Kalimac, i assume that when someone died while wearing the ring, his body remained invisible... until it desintegrated... I don't know... About Isildur, I guess the ring swept of his finger and orcs could see him, and kill him. Again, all I can say about this is pure assumption. Anunia __________________ Flowers are the alphabet of angels, whereby they write on the hills and fields mysterious truths. Dream the impossible, because dreams do come true.

10-06-2002, 12:51 PM	#3
lathspell Regenerating Ringkeeper Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 757	I don't think that the Ring would remain on a dead body. It would slip of, I guess. greetings, lathspell __________________ 'You?' cried Frodo. 'Yes, I, Gandalf the Grey,' said the wizard solemnly. 'There are many powers in the world, for good or for evil. Some are greater than I am. Against some I have not yet been measured. But my time is coming.'

10-06-2002, 12:57 PM	#4
Reyna Evergreen Haunting Spirit Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mirkwood, Canada Posts: 69	Because we know that the Ring had somekind of way of getting around, I guess that the wearer would stay invisible until the Ring found some way of rubbing againts someting, or slipping off (ect...) and then the corpse would be revealed, much to the dismay of the finder. This is all just an assumption, though. Maybe, in retrospect, the Ring just stayed, invisible, with the Bearer until he or she was reduced to nothing... But because Tolkien never intended a Bearer to die, all we can do is guess... __________________ "Utúlie 'n aurë! Aiya Eldalië ar Atanatári, utúlie 'n aurë!" The day has come! Behold, people of the Eldar and Fathers of Men, day has come!

10-06-2002, 06:01 PM	#6
Susan Delgado The Perished Flame Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: behind my eyes Posts: 1,096	Exactly, Bombidillo. It is intelligent in its way and all it would have to do is change its size so it's bigger than the finger it's on. __________________ "Man as a whole, Man pitted against the universe, have we seen him at all 'til we see that he is like a hero in a fairy tale?"

10-06-2002, 02:53 PM	#5
Bombadilo Pile O'Bones Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 15	Since the Ring had a mind of its own, i am pretty sure that it would have fallen off or something like that. The Ring would not have stayed on a dead body, because there was not any hope of being retrieved by Sauron.

10-08-2002, 12:51 PM	#7
arelendil Wight Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Eryn Lasgalen Posts: 202	i always thought that the ring only made a life force invisible otherwises the chain its on would be invisible! therefore the moment the life leaves a body the corpse is again visible! But that's just me __________________ Nai Vardo eleni ilye lumenn' enomentielvo siluvar!

10-08-2002, 01:05 PM	#8
Legolas A Northern Soul Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Valinor Posts: 1,847	I imagine the body and ring would become visible, and the ring would fall from the bearer's hand. __________________ ...take counsel with thyself, and remember who and what thou art.