What was Gollum? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

LadyElbereth · 08-21-2002, 04:38 PM

This is probably a stupid question but what was Gollum before he became a "loathsome creature"? Was his name Gollum before he had possesion of the ring?

piosenniel · 08-21-2002, 04:48 PM

Here is a link to the entry in the Barrow Downs Encyclopedia on Gollum:

Gollum

LadyElbereth · 08-21-2002, 04:54 PM

Thankyou very much!

The Green Ringwraith · 08-21-2002, 06:03 PM

Or, in short, Gollum was Smeagol the hobbit.

08-21-2002, 06:43 PM

Originally, Gollum was a hobbit of the tribe of the Stoors, who lived near the Gladden Fields in his time. There his actual name was Sméagol, a translation of his Westron name Trahald, 'burrow-deep'. He got his nickname from a clicking sound he made with his throat at many occasions which sounded like 'gollum'. One day his cousin Déagol fished the One Ring out of the Anduin, which was washed there from the field where Isildur fell. Gollum, lusting for it, claimed it was righteously his, as it was his birthday. He then strangled his cousin in order to get the Ring. Then he took it up to the Misty Mountains and thats when Bilbo found it.

Hope that helps [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

LadyElbereth · 08-22-2002, 12:01 PM

thankyou! that did help! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

08-22-2002, 02:29 PM

YAY!!!!!! i got it right! i knew he was a hobbit

Lady Iverin · 02-21-2003, 03:27 PM

Hmmm.... I thought he was a hobbit. But not really a hobbit. A different race or something. I don't know. Thanks for the info though! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Lutfiska · 03-26-2003, 03:28 PM

yes smeagol(gollum) came from the tribe of stoors... I wonder what ME would have been like if Deagol had kept his ring instead of being killed by Smeagol (foolish Stoors)...

Sillabub · 05-17-2003, 11:55 AM

No, his name was Smeagol and he was a type of Hobbit that spent a good amount of time in water.

lathspell · 05-22-2003, 08:45 AM

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I think he (Gollum) was like Hobbits, akin to the fathers of the fathers of Stoors!

Gandalf to Frodo in The Shadow of the Past

Meela · 05-22-2003, 11:06 AM

Kermit the Frog after a rough night out on the town.

Feared Half-Elf · 05-27-2003, 08:59 AM

I never knew smeagol was a hobbit. I just knew that he strangled Deagol to get the ring. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]

Elentarimir · 05-28-2003, 04:16 AM

That would be correct, Gollum was once a hobbit named Smeagol.

05-30-2003, 02:47 PM

okay so far a all thats happened in this room is that people have stated (& re-stated) that gollum was a hobbit, right

Frodo2968thewhite · 05-30-2003, 03:01 PM

Gollum, or Smeagol, was a hobbit of the Stoor strain, born in a settlement near Gladden fields. Around the year 2463, he obtained the ring, and odious to his family and friends, so he was driven out of the Stoor community, then he went into the Misty Mountains until 2941, when Bilbo found it. Gollum's real name, though, was Trahald, a northern Mannish name, meaning "burrowing"; the Anglicized Mannish equivalent to Trahald was "Smeagol". He was named Gollum by his family, because after he found the ring, he made an odd noise in his throat (almost like a purring sound). But the orcs of Cirith-Ungol called him "Her Sneak" because he served Shelob. Of course, he called himself "Precious". And Sam called him "slinker" or "stinker", depending on if he was "Good Smeagol" or "Evil Gollum".

Tarien Ithil · 06-07-2003, 03:18 AM

Wow, Frodo. Thanks for that! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

06-07-2003, 08:09 AM

OK i think you guys have settled it but Gollum used to be a hobbity thing called Smeagol. Then on his birthday, his best friend Deagol found the one ring. Smeagol strangled him cos he wanted it. Then the ring poisoned his mind and he became gollum. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

08-21-2002, 04:38 PM	#1
LadyElbereth Wight Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Taniquetil Posts: 183	What was Gollum? This is probably a stupid question but what was Gollum before he became a "loathsome creature"? Was his name Gollum before he had possesion of the ring? __________________ If I could be anything, I'd be your tear, so I could be born in your eye, live down your cheek, and die on your lips.

08-21-2002, 04:48 PM	#2
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Here is a link to the entry in the Barrow Downs Encyclopedia on Gollum: Gollum __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

08-21-2002, 04:54 PM	#3
LadyElbereth Wight Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Taniquetil Posts: 183	Thankyou very much! __________________ If I could be anything, I'd be your tear, so I could be born in your eye, live down your cheek, and die on your lips.

08-21-2002, 06:03 PM	#4
The Green Ringwraith Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: On the edge of the world I'll roam and the home of the wolf will be my home. Posts: 77	Or, in short, Gollum was Smeagol the hobbit. __________________ -What is it about the Green ones?- "...they fell under the dominion of the One, and they became Ringwraiths... This one just got a little too gamma ray happy."

08-22-2002, 12:01 PM	#6
LadyElbereth Wight Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Taniquetil Posts: 183	thankyou! that did help! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ If I could be anything, I'd be your tear, so I could be born in your eye, live down your cheek, and die on your lips.

08-21-2002, 06:43 PM	#5
Rhocolan Guest Posts: n/a	Originally, Gollum was a hobbit of the tribe of the Stoors, who lived near the Gladden Fields in his time. There his actual name was Sméagol, a translation of his Westron name Trahald, 'burrow-deep'. He got his nickname from a clicking sound he made with his throat at many occasions which sounded like 'gollum'. One day his cousin Déagol fished the One Ring out of the Anduin, which was washed there from the field where Isildur fell. Gollum, lusting for it, claimed it was righteously his, as it was his birthday. He then strangled his cousin in order to get the Ring. Then he took it up to the Misty Mountains and thats when Bilbo found it. Hope that helps [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

08-22-2002, 02:29 PM	#7
xxxxxwhitetigeressxxxxx Guest Posts: n/a	YAY!!!!!! i got it right! i knew he was a hobbit

02-21-2003, 03:27 PM	#8
Lady Iverin Haunting Spirit Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: far, far away Posts: 79	Hmmm.... I thought he was a hobbit. But not really a hobbit. A different race or something. I don't know. Thanks for the info though! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ ~O Elbereth! Gilthoniel! We still remember, we who dwell in this far land beneath the trees, Thy starlight on the Western seas.~

03-26-2003, 03:28 PM	#9
Lutfiska Haunting Spirit Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: sweden Posts: 60	yes smeagol(gollum) came from the tribe of stoors... I wonder what ME would have been like if Deagol had kept his ring instead of being killed by Smeagol (foolish Stoors)... __________________ Go Bushie Vote yes to war

05-17-2003, 11:55 AM	#10
Sillabub Wight Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: GONDOR!! Posts: 138	No, his name was Smeagol and he was a type of Hobbit that spent a good amount of time in water. __________________ They were holding umbrellas. Not just any umbrellas- BLACK umbrellas. Not just ANY black umbrellas- these were...(knuckle-biting time) the BLACK UMBRELLAS OF DEATH!!!!! cue sinister music

05-22-2003, 11:06 AM	#12
Meela Denethor's True Love Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mirkwood. With Thranduil... swoon Posts: 2,049	Kermit the Frog after a rough night out on the town. __________________ 'The Hobbit' 1st impressions: 1. Thorin is hot... Oh god, I fancy a dwarf. 2. Thranduil is hotter. 3. Is that... Figwit! 4. Does Elijah Wood never age? 2nd: It's all about Fili & Kili, really. 3rd: BARD! OMG, Bard.

05-27-2003, 08:59 AM	#13
Feared Half-Elf Wight Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Up a tree. Posts: 213	I never knew smeagol was a hobbit. I just knew that he strangled Deagol to get the ring. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] __________________ "You will find the Holy Grail in Castle Aaaaaaahhhhhh leans sideways" Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

05-28-2003, 04:16 AM	#14
Elentarimir Wight Join Date: May 2003 Location: Is this a trick question? Posts: 125	That would be correct, Gollum was once a hobbit named Smeagol. __________________ Due to lack of funding, the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off.

05-30-2003, 02:47 PM	#15
Gandalf The Grey Guest Posts: n/a	okay so far a all thats happened in this room is that people have stated (& re-stated) that gollum was a hobbit, right

05-30-2003, 03:01 PM	#16
Frodo2968thewhite Haunting Spirit Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Shire Posts: 95	Gollum, or Smeagol, was a hobbit of the Stoor strain, born in a settlement near Gladden fields. Around the year 2463, he obtained the ring, and odious to his family and friends, so he was driven out of the Stoor community, then he went into the Misty Mountains until 2941, when Bilbo found it. Gollum's real name, though, was Trahald, a northern Mannish name, meaning "burrowing"; the Anglicized Mannish equivalent to Trahald was "Smeagol". He was named Gollum by his family, because after he found the ring, he made an odd noise in his throat (almost like a purring sound). But the orcs of Cirith-Ungol called him "Her Sneak" because he served Shelob. Of course, he called himself "Precious". And Sam called him "slinker" or "stinker", depending on if he was "Good Smeagol" or "Evil Gollum". __________________ INAGURAL GOLDEN RING MARATHON, OCTOBER 20, 2005!!! FRODO LIVES!!!!

06-07-2003, 03:18 AM	#17
Tarien Ithil Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2003 Location: In the Shade of a Tree Posts: 253	Wow, Frodo. Thanks for that! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ “The English-speaking world is divided into those who have read The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit and those who are going to read them.” – Sunday Times Crickhollow

06-07-2003, 08:09 AM	#18
ElvenDragon Guest Posts: n/a	OK i think you guys have settled it but Gollum used to be a hobbity thing called Smeagol. Then on his birthday, his best friend Deagol found the one ring. Smeagol strangled him cos he wanted it. Then the ring poisoned his mind and he became gollum. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]