Constellations of ME - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Arathiriel · 10-03-2002, 12:13 AM

Are constellations ever mentioned in LOTR? For that mater, are there any stars that are held special regard? And if so what are their names and what significance do they hold to the people of ME?

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piosenniel · 10-03-2002, 03:09 AM

Here is a link to constellations of Middle-earth:

STARS

Enjoy! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Arathiriel · 10-03-2002, 10:16 AM

Thank you!!!

Frodo Baggins · 10-05-2002, 07:24 PM

Yes Venus is Earendil.

When you watch the sun set, the first "star" to come out is Venus, which usually appears immediately after sunset, sometimes before. Whenever I see it I call it Earendil, because that is what earendil looks like, and it is Earendil.

Evenstar1 · 10-05-2002, 09:37 PM

Very cool! Thanks so much piosenniel!!! [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img] [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Raefindel · 10-05-2002, 10:43 PM

I remember recognizing when Tolkien mentioned the constelation Orion, It mentions his belt.

That's a great link Pio, I found the page right away. It's in Fellowship, page 111, when the Hobbits were with Gildor. Tolkien called Orion "Swordsman of the sky, Menelvagor".

[ October 06, 2002: Message edited by: Raefindel ]

piosenniel · 10-05-2002, 10:52 PM

Orion is Menelvagor in ME.

If you'll look at the constellation map link in the earlier post, it is detailed there, along with a quote concerning it and where the quote comes from.

10-03-2002, 12:13 AM	#1
Arathiriel Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Blessed Realm Posts: 284	Constellations of ME Are constellations ever mentioned in LOTR? For that mater, are there any stars that are held special regard? And if so what are their names and what significance do they hold to the people of ME? Thanks! [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] __________________ 'I love him. He's like that, and sometimes it shines through, somehow. But I love him, whether or no.' - Samwise Gamgee

10-03-2002, 03:09 AM	#2
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Here is a link to constellations of Middle-earth: STARS Enjoy! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

10-03-2002, 10:16 AM	#3
Arathiriel Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Blessed Realm Posts: 284	Thank you!!! __________________ 'I love him. He's like that, and sometimes it shines through, somehow. But I love him, whether or no.' - Samwise Gamgee

10-05-2002, 07:24 PM	#4
Frodo Baggins Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Bag-End, Under-Hill, Hobbiton-across-the Water Posts: 606	Yes Venus is Earendil. When you watch the sun set, the first "star" to come out is Venus, which usually appears immediately after sunset, sometimes before. Whenever I see it I call it Earendil, because that is what earendil looks like, and it is Earendil. __________________ "I'm your huckleberry....that's just my game."

10-05-2002, 09:37 PM	#5
Evenstar1 Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: Colorado (just east of the Misty Mts.) Posts: 111	Very cool! Thanks so much piosenniel!!! [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img] [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ - Eve

10-05-2002, 10:43 PM	#6
Raefindel Sword of the Spirit Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,313	I remember recognizing when Tolkien mentioned the constelation Orion, It mentions his belt. That's a great link Pio, I found the page right away. It's in Fellowship, page 111, when the Hobbits were with Gildor. Tolkien called Orion "Swordsman of the sky, Menelvagor". [ October 06, 2002: Message edited by: Raefindel ] __________________ Blessed be the Lord my Strength, Who trained my hands for war and my fingers to fight. Psallm 144:1

10-05-2002, 10:52 PM	#7
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Orion is Menelvagor in ME. If you'll look at the constellation map link in the earlier post, it is detailed there, along with a quote concerning it and where the quote comes from. __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.