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03-25-2003, 01:44 PM | #1 |
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Did all the Istari arrive at the same time?
I thought Curumo and Aiwendil were first,then The Blue Wizards and finally Olorin,but I'm not sure. So did they arrive together or not?
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03-25-2003, 02:49 PM | #2 |
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I'm pretty sure Unfinished Tales have them arriving at different times, but fairly soon after eachother. I'd have to check to be sure.
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03-25-2003, 03:30 PM | #3 |
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You are right.
First came Curumo and Aiwendil, then the Blue Wizards en at last Olorin. All of them came around 1000 TA
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03-25-2003, 05:09 PM | #4 |
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If u read The Silmarillion, it clearly states that all of the five Istari arrived, together. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]
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03-26-2003, 02:17 AM | #5 |
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You have to keep in mind that the published Silmarillion was unfinished. The section on the Third Age was also a summary rather than a narrative story, so the details (ie, the arrival of the Istari) tend to get a bit hazy.
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Radagast was the fourth - not the second.
Unfinished Tales: Quote:
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03-26-2003, 02:31 PM | #7 |
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In The Peoples of Midle-Earth is given an late Essay of JRR Tolkien about the Blue Wizards that says they came about 1600 SA!
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03-27-2003, 07:17 AM | #8 |
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Wasn't the version in UT more of who came in what order when they were summoned by the Valar and not by when they arrived in Middle Earth?
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I don't think so, Thal.
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Actually, I've found other quotes about their coming, and it seems Tolkien never decided. Unfinished Tales: Quote:
Tolkien was notoriously brief in speaking of the Blue Wizards and changed his mind about them too. In The Peoples of Middle-earth Tolkien says they came with Glorfindel in the Second Age. This is the account where Tolkien names them Morinehtar and Romestamo (as opposed to Alatar and Pallando, or leaving them nameless): Quote:
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