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Quentingolmo
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This is the first draft of the chapter The Stewards.
This chapter uses a thoroughly mixed bag of sources, so I mark every addition made to the text. The markings are: FY-HL-xx for all the headlines for the Fading Years. TS-SL-xx for all expansions and changes to the narrative. Some conventions of my writing: Bold Text = source information, comments and remarks {example} = text that should be deleted [example] = normalized text, normally only used for general changes, as well as changes which are a part of replacement that is not grammatical. Underlined Text = text changed for grammatical reasons in the process of combining and inserting and removing. <source example> = additions with source information ...... = This section of the paragraph is unchanged from the source. Quote:
TS-SL-01: We start off with the part of The Stewards narrative in Appendix A where we left off. This carries us through to the events of the Hobbit. TS-SL-02: This is the only detail given in the Rohan version of the story that is missing from the Stewards account. TS-AA-01: Here is where the origin of Aragorn's parents belongs chronologically. I use the longer version from the earlier draft of the Tale of Aragorn and Arwen, while keeping the names true to the final versions. TS-AA-02: Here we switch to the final version from Appendix A TS-AA-03: This was removed to avoid redundancy with the new first paragraph. TS-AA-04: This detail from the draft is missing from the final version. TS-AA-05: This detail from the draft is missing from the final version. TS-SL-03: Here we have the leadup to The Hobbit given in the Dwarven section of Appendix A. This details the struggle of the Dwarves to gain back Erebor. TS-SL-04: Here we give the Of the Rings of Power section dealing with the events of The Hobbit, but the ones that deal with Sauron and the ring. I place this after the Dwarven perspective, even though they happen at the same time, simply for ease of readership. I think this works out fine, even if it is slightly misleading about the timeline, but I think it is fine. In this we describe the finding of the Ring by Bilbo. TS-SL-05: Here we return to the Stewards and mention the arising of Sauron in Mordor once again. TS-SL-06: Since we broke the narrative, I think we should remind the reader who we are discussing, so I added this. TS-SL-07: Here we switch back to the kings of Rohan portion of Appendix A. This is Fengel's piece. TS-SL-08: We follow that with Thengel's. TS-SL-09: We follow that with Theoden's. TS-SL-10: Here we discuss Theodwyn, the daughter of Thengel, and her children, Eowyn and Eomer. TS-SL-11: Here we discuss the childhood of Eowyn and Eomer. TS-SL-12: This detail is relevant here. I took it from Eomer's description in the kings of rohan section. TS-AA-06: Here we give the bit about Aragorn coming of age and learning his identity. This takes place chronologically before some of the events in the previous Rohan discussion, but I think it is important to keep those together, so I place it here before the discussion of Ecthelion and Denethor. I changed his name from Estel since in the breaking up of the narrative we may not remember that Estel is an alternate name for Aragorn. This way seems more straightforward and less confusing. TS-SL-13: Here we switch back to the Sewards narrative and describe Ecthelion, Denethor, and Thorongil. TS-AA-07: Here we have the troth of Aragorn and Arwen and the beginning of Aragorn's travels, which explains the ending of the Thorongil narrative that preceded. TS-SL-14: We return to the Stewards narrative to discuss Denethor and his sons, and bring the narrative right up to the time of LotR. Last edited by ArcusCalion; 07-04-2018 at 03:10 PM. |
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Quentingolmo
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Actually, upon further reflection, I think I can edit the Tale of Aragorn and Arwen into the narrative of the main story. I think this will help add substance and characters to the end of the Third Age in the narrative. The Tale of Aragorn and Arwen begins in this chapter according to chronology, and so I will post my edits shortly with the editing marker TS-AA-xx for Aragorn and Arwen.
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Quentingolmo
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I have updated the first post with the new version. Apologies for the confusion.
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Quentingolmo
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Sorry for the multiple posts, but now that the majority of the Aragorn and Arwen story is added to this chapter, perhaps that could be the new title for the chapter: Of Aragorn and Arwen?
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King's Writer
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Some comments on the changes, not considering the recasting discussed in the Outline thread:
TS-AA-02: The reference to Aragorn as king seems out of place. We change it thus: Quote:
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TS-SL-04: I agree that it might be the best way to tell the interwoven events in this placing. If we take in Of the Finding of the Ring we must of course skip most of the last paragraph. TS-SL-05: There is to much redudance in this paragraph, I would reduce it thus: Quote:
TS-SL-08: This is okay for me even so the last sentence feels a bit redundant. TS-SL-09: Neither the name Ednew nor the story behind do fit here. If told here they would be pretelling of events to come. I think we should avoid that. And simply leave this addition out. It should be included in the next chapter. TS-SL-10: Having removed Théoden we have to add his name here: Quote:
Respectfully Findegil |
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Quentingolmo
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TS-AA-02b: I agree, and I prefer the second option, with the Chieftain of the Dunedain info.
TS-SL-03/04: In the next post I will give my restructured form of this chapter, where these changes will be made. After that we can discuss the Quest for Erebor and how it could fit in. TS-SL-05b/07b: Agreed. TS-SL-09: Agreed. I have found a place for it in the final chapter. TS-SL-10: Agreed. Having incorporated these changes, I will make a new post in the same style as the first post, where I will lay out the new structure. I will only explain the changes which were not in the first draft or in this post. Last edited by ArcusCalion; 07-10-2018 at 08:04 AM. |
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