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11-13-2017, 01:10 PM | #1 | |
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Lord of the Rings TV series gets multi-season order at Amazon
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11-13-2017, 01:25 PM | #2 | |
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*Sigh* I just can't separate the motives from the actual product. I had the same issue with PJ's movies when I first learned of their coming, When profit is the objective in adaptations of existing works, changes are going to be allowed based on the bottom line, and fidelity to the spirit of the original goes right out the (round) window. They can bloody well keep it.
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11-13-2017, 04:25 PM | #3 | |
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I'm somewhat comforted by the fact that the Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos is already known to be a big fan of the fantasy genre and that he was directly involved in discussing this project with the Tolkien Estate and Trust. I want to believe that he is passionate about these works and will try to use his position to keep things as canon as possible. Sure, it is ultimately about the money in the end, but the Matt Galsor snippet from the Estate and HarperCollins representative gives me hope:
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11-13-2017, 04:41 PM | #4 | |
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11-13-2017, 04:57 PM | #5 |
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Ugh
It is a fearsome struggle to constrain myself to socially acceptable vocabulary to describe my reaction to this news.
There is no reason for somebody who respects Tolkien's work to be optimistic about the end product. Jeff Bezos being a "fan" of the fantasy genre could mean almost anything...in fact, I feel worse about it because you get some crazy ideas being a "fan" of something. That the focus of this project is going to be the vaporous netherworld of "before the Fellowship of the Ring" is just a blanket statement from the beginning that they intend to pull whatever they feel like pulling out of their hindquarters. At least they are kind of honest about it. Perhaps they will at least have enough of a sense of humor to rename Butterbur to Butterfinger. EDIT: I figured out the best way to phrase my dismay, to wit: "I have a bad feeling that this TV series is going to make The Hobbit films look tasteful and well-crafted by comparison."
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11-13-2017, 06:14 PM | #6 |
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So, after all, it is just a "glorified fan fiction" show, expanding little bits and pieces of narrative, not really an adaptation?
That destroys what little interest I had. All this will serve to do is perpetuate the cloying atmosphere of misunderstanding and misinformation surrounding Professor Tolkien's work - this one man's lifelong labour of love - in the public consciousness. Of course, it's not being made for people like me. I'm sure it will please a certain kind of audience, however.
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11-13-2017, 08:44 PM | #7 |
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I understand that money clouds judgement when people are making the call as to what to add, embellish, or cut from original works when adapting them to bigger, "better" media. If that's your thing, run with it. No drama.
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11-21-2017, 11:38 AM | #8 |
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Allow me to present to you a little project called the Silmarillion, that had no purpose beyond the intellectual and emotional pleasure it gave its creator...
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11-21-2017, 06:49 PM | #9 | ||
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In fact, I am sure his opinion coincides with the 18th century poet Matthew Greene, who once famously wrote, "Novels are receipts to make a whore."
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10-26-2021, 07:19 PM | #10 | |
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Amazon is the perfect company to destroy Tolkien's work. Having said that I will watch the first episode while I scream at the television until I refuse to watch anymore. I will then pick it up the next week in defiance of my oath to never watch it again where my actions will predictably repeat. I assume it will take anywhere from 3-5 shows for me to actually keep my word, realize my hope of an accurate portrayal could never happen with Amazon at the helm, and finally discard the show.
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10-27-2021, 04:40 AM | #11 | |
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That said, I don't yet see any reason that I should watch it (which was precisely my view on the PJ film treatments). The books have very deep meaning to me. Tolkien has been part of my life for as long as I can remember. Would watching "adaptations" written by other people, using his invented settings and characters, increase my affection for the original material? My experience with the LOTR movies indicates the answer is "not bloody likely". Am I likely to appreciate the direction Tolkien's world takes in the hands of those who, in all likelihood, don't have the love and respect of his creative output that I possess? Highly doubtful. If Tolkien didn't give me some bit of information I am curious over, I much prefer to speculate on it in my own mind, rather than having a big-budget production spoon-feed their own version to me.
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10-27-2021, 04:56 AM | #12 |
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I agree. Life is too short to waste watching something I already know I won't enjoy.
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10-27-2021, 11:29 AM | #13 | |
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Now, if they actually make it Tolkien enough that it's recognizably written-ish material, and butcher that, I might just stop watching, because that is something that will ruin my appetite.
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10-28-2021, 01:21 AM | #14 | |
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12-14-2021, 06:22 PM | #15 |
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Looking at the casting, the majority of characters are OCs. I am absolutely convinced this will be nothing close to Tolkien’s work in either theme or story.
My guess is it will be a generic fantasy esque show perhaps with Galadriel as the main heroine. It seems that once Christopher Tolkien died, the estate sold out for a quarter of a billion dollars. |
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